The Symbols Thread: Let's Trace our POTC Symbols

Started by LovelyOne47 pages

IMO it doesn't spoil the adventure..characters grow up..I dunno if Jack is going to forever remain a wanderer with no one in his life but himself..he is a human being and he may well want a family..its human nature..

aren't you glad you have a family?..don't you want kids someday?..someone to love and love you back unconditionally

Hopefully, there'll be no kids. I don't think that's Jack Sparrow. Maybe he'll have some kids later in his life with Liz, but for now, in AWE I dont' wanna see any little pirates running around!

Exactly that is not Jack Sparrow, people would never expect this from him. That would be the shocking part. I would like the idea of Jack having significant other and a child at the end of AWE. What a shocker NO? jawdrop

Are you talking to me? Yes, I can't wait to have kids. And I want Jack to have kids. I don't want kids in AWE because it's not the time for them. If they appear near the end, it becomes melodramatic leaving doubt as to whose they really are, and if they appear later, most writers aren't talented enough to realistically portray kids or family units. They do the things I mentioned in my last post: take all the fight and adventure out of the mom and make the dad a complete dumbass.

willo..I can undertsand them not giving Jack a kid if they were going to make movie 4 a continuation of AWE..but its not is it..its supposedly a prequel type thing..so whats the harm in showing Jack actually having a son or whatever before AWE closes?? Its closure, the story is never going to continue from that point..

IMO it doesnt matter if they show Jack with a kid at the end of it all..to me it would mean he finally found his place in life..we know he didnt die and he managed to continue his legacy..

Originally posted by willofthewisp
Are you talking to me? Yes, I can't wait to have kids. And I want Jack to have kids. I don't want kids in AWE because it's not the time for them. If they appear near the end, it becomes melodramatic leaving doubt as to whose they really are, and if they appear later, most writers aren't talented enough to realistically portray kids or family units. They do the things I mentioned in my last post: take all the fight and adventure out of the mom and make the dad a complete dumbass.

Ok who is talking to who? 😕

I was wondering if Lovely was talking to me.

oh no that first post was to S&S my most recent was to you 🙂

Originally posted by LovelyOne
willo..I can undertsand them not giving Jack a kid if they were going to make movie 4 a continuation of AWE..but its not is it..its supposedly a prequel type thing..so whats the harm in showing Jack actually having a son or whatever before the movie closes?? Its closure..If he does have a kid...I think they would still be pirates/sailors..

I agree w/ you I would love the idea of Jack having a family @ the end. That is what every human being longed for in life. Jack is a man like any other. That's the beauty of this character. That's why everyone loves him. Unconsciously he desires everything that any human would want.

"willo..I can undertsand them not giving Jack a kid if they were going to make movie 4 a continuation of AWE..but its not is it..its supposedly a prequel type thing..so whats the harm in showing Jack actually having a son or whatever before the movie closes?? Its closure..If he does have a kid...I think they would still be pirates/sailors.."----LovelyOne

I think they would still be pirates, too, but it's too early in their relationship to have a kid, imo. I wouldn't want any "is it Will's or Jack's" going on, and I think it would be more interesting and rewarding for them to work on their relationship a little...with plenty of action, of course. The most I would feel was fitting would be if Liz says at the end she's pregnant.

well I dunno why ppl say they hate kids if we were kids ourselves lol but I digress...Well...Im sure awe isnt gonna be any kids, IMO it wuld be skipping some scenes.

i am at the point where i could see Jack as a father (albiet an awkwardly charming and sometimes confused one) much more easily than i could see Elizabeth as a mother. with where her character is, I can hardly see her as being in a successful mature relationship, much less the mother of a child in any kind of family unit.

but i still reckon thats a serious possibility. i'm very interested/anxious to see how they could pull these characters into position for that type of an ending.

yeah but chiki..my pointi s T&T say the ending is to be unexpected yet make sense to everything..so seeing a kid there would be like WHOAH!! then you look back and realize its probably what was going on with Jack throughout DMC/AWE..and its a perfect answer to what he wanted..

"we see our hero win..and its just how he wins" apparently that is the "unexpected ending".. they are talking about..

so we are expecting Jack to get his immortality before the movie ends then BANG "whats this?? oh yes of COURSE! it makes so much sense"

ok thats just me thinking too much

But HOW is my question. How can they BOOM add a kid by the end of the movie? It better made sense, and not to sound like a perv but I mean it would be skipping alot of scenes on when they conceived that child.

Probably, lol. Don't stop, though. I'm just teasing. You're almost always spot-on.

lol

It wouldnt hurt to add some sex scenes Disney style 😄 You shoudve read what I wrote on how Will could find Jack and Liz in bed lol.

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
But HOW is my question. How can they BOOM add a kid by the end of the movie? It better made sense, and not to sound like a perv but I mean it would be skipping alot of scenes on when they conceived that child.

do we need to see those scenes??

thats the whole point of "unexpected" often the effect is "BOOM what the hell!"

we dont technically "need" those scenes, but i for one will feel seriously cheated/disappointed if they get a kid and we dont get to see the hot moment that led up to that kid... just a steamy kiss could work. 🙂lol

Originally posted by LovelyOne
do we need to see those scenes??

thats the whole point of "unexpected" often the effect is "BOOM what the hell!"

But then there has to be a fourth? Right? So the 4th could be about the past and the present With some flashbacks maybe explnations stuff like that on why they are like that in the present. And why it happend like that.

oh i dont know... i think it would work either way, it would work without explanatory scenes or a 4th film... it would make a lot of sense, it would be shocking but fulfilling.

and then we could all imagine our heads off of HOW that happened... 😉

I guess Im a perv looool.

But I guess the good thing about it that makes you thing, I just hope they dont do it all crazy and all of the sudden WTF.

I just want it to be surprising not confusing.