Revan vs DE sidious

ok.. hmm who do you think will win this match?

...?

Are you dumb or just spiteful?

revan

Probably Sidious, but I doubt it would be as close as JollyJim seems to be implying here.

Sidious, easy cookies.

How about you make an argument, oh wise one.

Revan taught Bane a few moves via a holocron.
Sidious blew up a fleet.

The force storm can't be utilised in a versus fight, try again.

The force storm can't be utilised in a versus fight, try again.

Sidious, though he'll have a tough fight. Sidious is # 1 man, undisputed champion. Revan's like third or something. He comes close.

Yoda is more powerful than Revan. ROTS Sidous is even with Yoda, and DE Sidious puts his former self to shame.

How is Yoda more powerful than Revan? Please...

Well because he has better feats, has shown more, and is "the avatar of light, Supreme Master of the Jedi Order, the fiercest, most implacable, most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known . . . "

I think that about sums it up.

Well because he has better feats

Revan destroyed an entire army of Rakatans with his storm of force lightning. That's beyond anything Yoda has done.

has shown more,

'Cause there is more material on Yoda....

"the avatar of light, Supreme Master of the Jedi Order, the fiercest, most implacable, most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known . . . "

Source please, and be specific as to where it is said, as just providing the quote without putting it into context isn't quite enough.

Planet, the quote is from the ROTS novelization.

Yes, the omniscient narrator of the ROTS Novelization. Anyway, Sidious wins this, this could easily get off topic.

Well gee, a fricking page number would be nice!

DE Sidious can move faster than the eye can see; he is also capable of destroying lightsabers with mere hand gestures. So, lol, Revan doesn't have a prayer of a chance in a lightsaber fight - and a pre-RotJ Sidious was capable of obliterating a batallion of stormtroopers with Force lightning.

So... no. Revan doesn't have a chance, really.

DE Sidious can move faster than the eye can see;

Quantify just exactly how fast this is, please.

he is also capable of destroying lightsabers with mere hand gestures. So, lol, Revan doesn't have a prayer of a chance in a lightsaber fight -

He wouldn't be able to pull this off, for the same reason he wouldn't be able to use TK to pull a lightsaber away from him - force shield. And please, if he could really do this, why not to Mace, or Yoda in RotS, or Luke in DE.

Seriously Gideon, this displays clear ignorance. One of the first lessons a jedi is taught is sufficient a defence against this.

and a pre-RotJ Sidious was capable of obliterating a batallion of stormtroopers with Force lightning.

A pre-KotOR Revan was able to destroy an entire army of Rakatans with lightning...

Quantify just exactly how fast this is, please.

I don't have to. Leia was witness to Luke and Sidious's fight in Dark Empire. It was said that she couldn't see either of them - only that they were generating waves of energy. Likewise, according to the audio drama, the fight was so intense that it killed nearby stormtroopers.

He wouldn't be able to pull this off, for the same reason he wouldn't be able to use TK to pull a lightsaber away from him - force shield. And please, if he could really do this, why not to Mace, or Yoda in RotS, or Luke in DE.

You can't say that a "force shield" is going to stop such an attack. If that is the case, why can't it stop Force lightning? Force drain? Force grip?

Sidious also didn't have this ability in RotS - I never claimed that he did, either. And he viewed his duel with Luke as a "game", in which he tried to display his dominance.

Seriously Gideon, this displays clear ignorance. One of the first lessons a jedi is taught is sufficient a defence against this.

Defense against having their lightsaber destroyed by their opponents with hand gestures? Why, they must teach some hardcore lessons at the Academy.

A pre-KotOR Revan was able to destroy an entire army of Rakatans with lightning...

Was it ever confirmed to be Force lightning? You said his version of a Force Storm - which is an upgraded form of lightning. Not the same thing.