Revan vs DE sidious

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Originally posted by The Planet
Atton is on par with Revan.

stupid comments like that is why humanity has no hope.

He was able to pwn jedi before he was even trained to use the force, imagine how powerful he must have become when The Exile (who is >>>>> Revan, JollyJim already provided proof) trained him to be a jedi guardian.

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Originally posted by Kadesh
I didnt say "forget", i said he did not touch his lightsaber for 13 years

But this did not effected his ability to fight with a Light Saber. And he demonstrated his impressive fighting skills in ROTS as a proof.

Originally posted by Kadesh
i agree with that, but experience does play a part too

Yes! but not much.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Lightsnake is a fanboy of sidious, he is respected, well then if what you said was true then you deserve no respect at all because you yourself are a fanboy of revan

So far, I have not said anything that will make me look like a Fanboy of Revan. My conclusion in this battle is already clear and that is "DE Sidious will win after a hard fight". It will not be a WTF pawn situation as some people are stating here.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Really? the "one" only had mentioned that revan summoned his "magic" (force) of lightning to wipe out the entire scouting party, if he had done that, malak would have backed away out from the lightnings paths, you think any body would risk standing in a line of fire? no, If this is true you say prove it. show me a source where it stated that revan diverted his attack from malak and by the way lying fanboys cant save revan

The One indicated that both Malak and Revan were responsible for killing his Warriors and Beasts. I will re-clarify this information and then post about it.

Originally posted by Kadesh
sorry, sidioius mastery > revans, try again. as several sources pointed out

I have not denied this.

Originally posted by The Planet
He was able to pwn jedi before he was even trained to use the force, imagine how powerful he must have become when The Exile (who is >>>>> Revan, JollyJim already provided proof) trained him to be a jedi guardian.

Since when is Exile >>>>>>> Revan? and what evidence did JollyJim has used to back this claim?

Originally posted by The Planet
Atton is on par with Revan.

Oh Boy! 😘

Not again!!!

Gameplay doesn't count for anything, guys... That part was more of just a thrown in thing.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Well then i guess what she said about tulak hord and the ancient sith must be true then, that they > revan in saber skills. By the way, several kotor characters declare that exar kun is the strongest of his time, stronger than revan according to them

She mentioned about only Tulak Horde having superb dueling skills. And Revan already had discovered his secrets in Korriban Planet before the events of KOTOR II.

And only that Rodian in Yavin Station said about Kun being more powerful (not several characters) and he has no clue that how powerful Revan and Malak were. Because he cannot sense the power of a Jedi. Thus his views are fallible.

Originally posted by Kadesh
"heart of the force" may be one thing, compared to sidious which has been declared the dark side of the force itself

Good Logic here.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Well werent the sith under banes rule were far stronger than the ones in the jedi civil war? The ones like vader, sidious and plagueis?
And already one master and 1 apprentice had already began many yearseven before revan was born, like nadd and sadow and nadd being kuns mentor. like i say, i liked revan till the pod book came out, the author is a fanboy of revan and one of the kotor crew developers who gave all of banes credit to revan

Revan met the spirit of a powerful ancient Sith Lord "Ajunta Pall" and told him that Sith of his age are far more powerful. This alone states a lot.

And this means that Exar Kun, Revan, Sion, Nihilus, Traya and Malak were more powerful then ancients.

Well let's see.

1. Atton is a better tactition. Proof? He was a master of Pazaak.
2. Atton has better reflexes. Proof? He piloted the Ebon Hawk, Revan only ever used the gun turrets. And Reflexes = Piloting.
3. He was able to defeat jedi while untrained, that kind of shit would even impress Darth Bane, who couldn't do anything close to that while untrained.
4. His teacher (The Exile) was a better teacher than Revan's (Kraya). Proof (look at that Kadesh, I can do it too)? Kreia stated that The Exile was the best student she ever had.

So using the points above, I can conclude that Revan < The Exile < Canderous < Atton Rand.

Ergo, Revan is on par with Atton.

Is this comprehendidible?

Originally posted by The Planet
1. Atton is a better tactition. Proof? He was a master of Pazaak.

Wow! being master of Pazaak made him better tactician then Revan? nice try! 😘

Originally posted by Kadesh
2. Atton has better reflexes. Proof? He piloted the Ebon Hawk, Revan only ever used the gun turrets. And Reflexes = Piloting.

Jedi reflexes are better then that of Pilots.

Originally posted by Kadesh
3. He was able to defeat jedi while untrained, that kind of shit would even impress Darth Bane, who couldn't do anything close to that while untrained.

Good and several others could do that too.

Originally posted by Kadesh
4. His teacher (The Exile) was a better teacher than Revan's (Kraya). Proof (look at that Kadesh, I can do it too)? Kreia stated that The Exile was the best student she ever had.

Exile herself was being trained by Traya.

Originally posted by Kadesh
So using the points above, I can conclude that Revan < The Exile < Canderous < Atton Rand.

By this logic Revan is weaker then both Atton Rand and Canderous. Good Try.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Ergo, Revan is on par with Atton.

Not a chance in hell.

Wow! being master of Pazaak made him better tactician then Revan? nice try!

Irrelevant indirection. Illogical fallacy. Nice try!

Jedi reflexes are better then that of Pilots.

Proof?

Good and several others could do that too.

Yes, but not Revan.

Exile herself was being trained by Traya.

Indeed!

By this logic Revan is weaker then both Atton Rand and Canderous. Good Try.

Asking me to prove a negative? Please...

Not a chance in hell.

Yay for unsupported assumptions!

Originally posted by The Planet
Irrelevant indirection. Illogical fallacy. Nice try!

Proof?

Yes, but not Revan.

Indeed!

Asking me to prove a negative? Please...

Yay for unsupported assumptions!

good lord, shut up, you're making absolutely no sense.

Originally posted by The Planet
Irrelevant indirection. Illogical fallacy. Nice try!

Their is no irrelevant direction over here. You said that just because Atton was a master Pazaak player, so he is a better tactician then Revan. And this is not true.

His strategies and tactics defeated the best of us. Even Mandalore himself was taken aback by the ferocity of his attacks, the tenacity of his defenses and and the subtlety of his plans. - Narration by Canderous Ordo

Need I say more?

Originally posted by The Planet
Proof?

Jedi reflexes are stated to be superior to that of non-Jedi. Atton may be an experienced Pilot but this is his skill actually.

Originally posted by The Planet
Yes, but not Revan.

You mean that Revan cannot kill Jedi? 😘

Originally posted by The Planet
Asking me to prove a negative? Please...

You made this remark "Revan < The Exile < Canderous < Atton Rand" recently. Now look at it carefully and then tell me that what does this mean? Because (<😉 means "less then".

Originally posted by The Planet
Yay for unsupported assumptions!

You are making an un-supported assumption here.

Their is no irrelevant direction over here. You said that just because Atton was a master Pazaak player, so he is a better tactician then Revan. And this is not true.

"His strategies and tactics defeated the best of us. Even Mandalore himself was taken aback by the ferocity of his attacks, the tenacity of his defenses and and the subtlety of his plans." - Narration by [Color=RedCanderous Ordo[/Color]

Need I say more?

Canderous is sexist.
Revan is a man. The Exile is a woman. Atton is a man.
Ergo, CMan would be biased against Atton.
^That's where your logic fails.

Jedi reflexes are stated to be superior to that of non-Jedi. Atton may be an experienced Pilot but this is his skill actually.

But Atton is a force user, you know?

You mean that Revan cannot kill Jedi?

Not when he was untrained!

You made this remark "Revan < The Exile < Canderous < Atton Rand". Now look at it carefully and then tell me that what does this mean. Because (< ) means "less then".

Again: Asking me to prove a negative? Please...

You are making an un-supported assumption here.

It may be unsupported, but it's still backed up by conan.

Originally posted by The Planet
Canderous is sexist.

Canderous is a Mandalorian as far as I remember.

Originally posted by The Planet
Revan is a man. The Exile is a woman. Atton is a man.
Ergo, CMan would be biased against Atton.
^That's where your logic fails.

What does the gender of these characters have to do with the "tactician" factor. And why would C-Man be biased against Atton?

Originally posted by The Planet
But Atton is a force user, you know?

He becomes a "Force User" actually. Still being a Pilot is one of his skills.

Originally posted by The Planet
Not when he was untrained!

Revan was taken for Jedi Training as a small child. And this is the case with almost every Jedi so what is your point actually?

Originally posted by The Planet
Again: Asking me to prove a negative? Please...

Then what was the purpose of that comment?

Originally posted by The Planet
It may be unsupported, but it's still backed up by conan.

Conan? (the proper word is Canon actually)

Anyways! provide me a quote from that canon material, which says that Atton is on par with Revan.

Canderous is a Mandalorian as far as I remember

And an attractive one at that!

What does the gender of these characters have to do with the "tactician" factor. And why would C-Man be biased against Atton?

Sexism, much?

He becomes a "Force User" actually. Still being a Pilot is one of his skills.

You don't just become a force user, you numb'ninny'nuts!

Revan was taken for Jedi Training as a small child. And this is the case with almost every Jedi so what is your point actually?

Exactly!

Then what was the purpose of that comment?

You tell me, fanbrat!

Conan? (the proper word is Canon actually)

Nuh Huh! Conan the Barbarian. You know - 'Hasta la vista, baby'.

Anyways! provide me a quote from that canon material, which says that Atton is on par with Revan.

'The Exile had managed to train a warrior with incredible strength in the force; after the destruction of Malachor V, he had become at least on par with Revan' - tNEC.

Originally posted by The Planet
And an attractive one at that!

No doubt on this.

Originally posted by The Planet
Sexism, much?

What do you mean by this?

Originally posted by The Planet
You don't just become a force user, you numb'ninny'nuts!

hey idiot! you are first discovered to be a Force Sensitive and then you are trained to become a Force User by an another "Force User" (your Mentor or Master).

Originally posted by The Planet
Exactly!

Exactly what?

Originally posted by The Planet
You tell me, fanbrat!

Resorting to insults won't give you any edge.

And I told you that what your comment means but why don't you explain it to me, since you wrote it?

Originally posted by The Planet
Nuh Huh! Conan the Barbarian. You know - 'Hasta la vista, baby'.

WTF "Conan - The Barbarian" has to do with this debate. Are you drunk?

Originally posted by The Planet
'The Exile had managed to train a warrior with incredible strength in the force; after the destruction of Malachor V, he had become at least on par with Revan' - tNEC.

Can you post a direct link or a Picture of these lines from TNEC?

Atton is a better tactition than Revan? Where in the nine circles of hell did this assumption come from?

Originally posted by Gideon
Atton is a better tactition than Revan? Where in the nine circles of hell did this assumption come from?

This came from "The Planet" actually and he also says that Atton Rand is as powerful as Revan! 🙄

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This came from "The Planet" actually and he also says that Atton Rand is as powerful as Revan! 🙄

Explains everything.

No doubt on this.

Well it's nice that we agree on something.

What do you mean by this?

Revan is male. Exile is female. Atton is male. Canderous is sexist.
You fill in the dots.

hey idiot! you are first discovered to be a Force Sensitive and then you are trained to become a Force User by an another "Force User" (your Mentor or Master).

Passive use of the force, much?

Exactly what?

Indeed!

Resorting to insults won't give you any edge.

But it makes me look cool! 👆

And I told you that what your comment means but why don't you explain it to me, since you wrote it?

It's proof that Atton has a huge package.

WTF this has to do with this debate. Are you drunk?

[Conan]Hasta la vista, baby.[/Conan]

Can you post a direct link or a Picture of these lines from TNEC?[/quote

I have already given thou enough as it is.

[quote]Atton is a better tactition than Revan? Where in the nine circles of hell did this assumption come from?

His skill in Pazaak.