Originally posted by leonidas
mm, you've gone through . . . a lot of trouble to say the same thing i've said about a half-dozen times: the m-body of eternity CAN encompass the whole universe if it is viewed from OUTSIDE the universe -- which is where it is most often encountered. of which your entropy issue is but one more example, as is gamora's entry and exit. seriously, i've said it a number of times, so all your scans simply continue to reiterate a point i stated long ago. but people love your scans, so keep 'em coming! 😄thing is: when have you seen the whole universe destroyed when the m-body of eternity has been WITHIN the universe? never. except for the one time in THE END. and what happens when THAT body is destroyed? there is still a universe left behind. the only way you can explain it is to speculate that thanos absorbed everything so fast that no void was made and that he went on to absorb the MULTIVERSE. a multiverse that is NEVER mentioned in the series. while UNIVERSE is repeatedly mentioned. you are ignoring the terminology and ascribing it the way you want to interpret it. if universe DID mean universe, your theory would utterly fall apart. i see no reason to say universe was NOT exactly what starlin meant. m-body absorbed, then the remainder and consciousness of eternity/infinity.
there is a second example of an eternity m-body falling while WITHIN the universe: when thanos defeats eternity in the IG the m-body remains behind in stasis but THANOS is the universe. how can that be if, as you've said over and over, EVERY M-BODY OF ETERNITY IS THE WHOLE UNIVERSE? if the whole universe is the eternity m-body, just what IS thanos?
my explanation of that event is simple -- thanos started battling the m-body (as we saw), then went beyond the physical plane to face the REAL spiritual eternity. the m-body was meaningless at this point as the REAL universe was now engaged and when thanos usurped the 'consciouness' of the universe, the m-body remained behind utterly useless. but also CLEARLY NOT the ENTIRE universe unless thanos was . . .? 😕
my theory really DOES fit nicely imho (perhaps not in yours, or others, but, alas, i can live with that 🙂 ) and i don't have to say atleza anchors the entire multiverse -- another postulation that have never been shown on panel. and you know what you say about things not on panel . . .
in support i showed that death was killed by strange (but you say instead he just . . . ko'd her . . . even though when she came back she was in a new m-body . . . malestrom killed anomaly's m-body and sent the m-body to oblivion. it didn't matter because the m-body is meaningless and we saw anomaly attack q later and even say it must have been the m-body in an issue ALL ABOUT m-bodies. but you pooh-poohed THAT as well and said quasar really doesn't know what he's talking about.
you don't believe quasar when he says that malestrom killed anomaly, but you cling to the fact that infinity ignored him and say that because of THAT you have 'conclusively proven there is only one d of m' responsible for supplying the entire OMNIVERSE with m-bodies?
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you're terribly quick to ascribe the term multiverse to everything. only problem is: multiverse is almost never mentioned anywhere on panel. but you continue to demand on-panel evidence from me and anyone else. for you to ascribe it as freely as you do, then critcize me for speculating (while i showed just some of the leaps you made above) . . . doesn't sound too great. using only the info provided in the issue, it's a lot easier to say infinity was the current one and rather than ignoring him, was actually comatose like eternity and unable to answer BECAUSE she was bound with him. (speculation is NECESSARY in this case as ithe situation is never defined) but in MY speculations, there is no need to bring in other-universal infinities and entities or the omniverse -- things that are not only never mentioned but that are never even alluded to.
as to the lt scan. in your corner you have:
one single scan that contradicts all others of lt EVER.
in mine: i have what COULD be an error (which i actually dislike saying cuz i hate calling pis for reasons goober mentioned) so instead, i showed a scan that completely in every way supports exactly what i said was shown in the defenders mini series -- that any singular eternity can (because of its make-up) be seen to be a multiverse in and of itself. eternity himself acknowledges dormammu in the defenders series and references a past meeting AND eternity himself ALSO references a past meeting with dr strange and the ancient one. (and that was NOT strange tales . . .)
your reaction: crap writing. why? not because it rewrites at all marvel's cosmology, but rather because it does not fit in with YOUR opinion of what that cosmology should be. there's a big difference, my friend. different writers have the right to interpret things differently.
so, you have one scan that is contradicted in every other scan of lt, and i have 2 scans (plus what is in effect a whole mini-series) that reference singular eternity as a multiverse or collection of universes as well as lt's judgement failing in the ultraverse -- a seperate multiverse.
i am perfectly content to let people choose which interpretation they believe to be accurate. 🙂
lastly, as regards lt and the d of m. what is the very PURPOSE of the d of m? to CREATE M-BODIES. yet you see lt multiple times in that dimension and STILL don't think he uses m-bodies? to quoth the master-man: whatever. 😬
i've really nothing more to add. people can read and come to whatever conclusions they like. it has -- as always -- been fun. 🙂
Beautiful post. 😱
