Originally posted by Soujaboy
What would of happened if Cap would have took that 5 minutes, and then told Tony that he wasn't going to put the lives of his friends and family in danger, just so the government could have another dog?
That would have been much better. You say you stand up for your beliefs? Than stand up for them. Don't pull a sneak attack when the guy is trying to offer you a way out
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
Y'know, after 9/11 there was a brief confrontation between the NYPD and the FDNY. The NYPD were just doing their job and enforcing the law. Does that make them bad?
Yes, when your willing to create a super jail to house those who refuse to endanger the lives of their loved ones it's wrong.
What would happen if a American spies identity was released? Ir would endanger the lives of everyone around him/her.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Far as I remember neither was Captain America.
Captain America is an individual who represents and stands superheroes. In essence he and all other super heroes should be held accountable. So as a hero he and everyone else should be subject to the same rules.
Besides by your logic we should let terrorists walk who blow up buildings because they haven't killed anyone?
I think people are getting a little to biased on this thing the point of Civil War is to show that both sides can be right but be wrong.
Listen everyone keeps refering to Tony as the villian here I think the last issue percetly shows that isn't the case.
He offerc CA amensty wants to talk to him for 5 minutes and even when they had the advantage of surprise instead of ambushing them completely simply stopped there ability to leave.
As he said he truely believes in this. I mean Kids died then the mother of one comes to him and blames him for everything. That has to get to you a little bit.
For everything people are saying about him he is doing the same things Cap would have done if Cap was Pro. He is a commander on one side he has to do everything he can to get as much support as possible even if it could seem a cold hearted to some.
Originally posted by SoujaboyIf the "heroes" don't feel the risk is worth the benifits, then they have the option of hanging up their capes. That's what separates the SRA from the MRA. The heroes chose to patrol the streets with their powers.
Yes, when your willing to create a super jail to house those who refuse to endanger the lives of their loved ones it's wrong.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yes, when your willing to create a super jail to house those who refuse to endanger the lives of their loved ones it's wrong.What would happen if a American spies identity was released? Ir would endanger the lives of everyone around him/her.
Its so funny that you should use a spy as an example. A spy is registered with the government so that if anything happens while they're on the field they can be held accountable. Again Civil War isn't about exposing yourself to the world, you only have to register with the governmet.
I don't think the agrument "protecting their families" can even apply here. Cap doesn't have family to protect so whats the point?
Originally posted by SoujaboyDid Dr. King respond with violence to any of the misjustices visited upon him, his friends, or family? Did Rosa Parks? NO! They used non-violent means as a method of effect change, and it worked.
For a black man Hitting a white man for any reason was against the law, even if the white man was rapping your wife. Does this make the law right?
Originally posted by marvelprince
Captain America is an individual who represents and stands superheroes. In essence he and all other super heroes should be held accountable. So as a hero he and everyone else should be subject to the same rules.Besides by your logic we should let terrorists walk who blow up buildings because they haven't killed anyone?
So if an American kills a Chinese child, should the whole American population be responsible? should china imprison all, because a few have done bad deeds?
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
If the "heroes" don't feel the risk is worth the benifits, then they have the option of hanging up their capes. That's what separates the SRA from the MRA. The heroes [b]chose to patrol the streets with their powers. [/B]
That's really interesting so hypothetically speaking if say...Spiderman decided to quit the super hero business and one day he was walking down the street and he saw a building on fire. He see's no other super hero around and a child is trapped in the burning building, the fire fighters are late...so say if he stepped in and saved the child would he get locked up for that?
Originally posted by SoujaboyThose children, hell the entire neighborhood was in NO IMMEDIATE DANGER until Speedball chose to attack. They couldn't waited, they could've tried tranq darts, but they rushed in headlong and innocent people died!
No Speedball wasn't. He never told Nitro to kill those kids, he was actually trying to stop him.
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
Did Dr. King respond with violence to any of the misjustices visited upon him, his friends, or family? Did Rosa Parks? NO! They used non-violent means as a method of effect change, and it worked.
Dr. King wasn't the only black man who was faced with this problem. Some did revert to violence, and they died for it. Does that make the law right?
So, there are four sides in a way:
Pro-Registration (with the main guys being Iron Man, Yellowjacket, Sentry, apparently Thor): "Registration is good! Sure, it gets our families killed eventually with one of the countless techno-genius villains hacking the SHIELD databases as soon as the files are put there, but it is the law, and we must abide it. Now, will you surrender, [insert the name of a friend who has saved your life countless times and vice versa here] or do I have to beat your butt to coma?"
Anti Registration (Captain America, Hercules, Cable, the Young Avengers): "Registration sucks major ass! We want to take responsibility of our actions legally, but this is the wrong way. To prove this, we go underground and break numerous laws, although that has not stopped superheroing in past...we fight for the good old times."
Mutants (The X-Men, The 198): "You did not help us with our problems, why should we help you? I did not see you crying when we were hunted and we had our genocides. You are hypocrites, go somewhere else."
The Badass-Don't play any shit with us-side(Dr. Strange, Namor, Black Bolt): We don't care shit about your laughable laws. With one gesture of my fingers I could command forces that would destroy your pathetic armies. I'd like to see you hunting us down and forcing us to register. Now go the **** off my lawn or I am forced to invade your backwards country."
I'm with the Badasses. 😉
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Short Civil War Parody by Willowhugger at Newsrama:Civil War Parody
Speedball: Okay, we've fought the Sphinx and Galactus at various points in our career. The guy whom couldn't beat ANYBODY except by being toxic by his meer presence shouldn't be a problem.
Namorita: But what if he blows up an entire city?
Speedball: DAMNIT WOMAN, don't you think if he could do that he would have already done it and killed all of Marvel's heroes?
*KABLOOM*
Speedball: Well don't I have egg on my face.
***
Tony Stark: OH MY GOD! THINK OF THE CHILDREN! THIS IS THE WORST DISASTER OF ALL TIME!
Captain America: Except for when Kang conquered all of the planet and burned the skies from orbit.
Tony Stark: Except for that.
Captain America: Remember Genosha? 13 million dead.
Tony Stark: They were mutants, doesn't count.
Captain America: Remember when Ultron killed Yugoslavia's stand in?
Tony Stark: I'm missing your point.
Captain America: Hey, how about the cities in Russia Magneto destroyed.
Tony Stark: This is AMERICA man!
Captain America:There's been like a dozen small towns destroyed in comics in just this decade alone.
Tony Stark: It's near New York.
Captain America: Speaking of New York. Magneto rampage...5000 dead. Hulk, killed an entire city now. Thor also took over the planet.
Tony Stark: This was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Captain America: That was one honking strong camel.
***
Tony Stark: Okay, basically, we need to become accountable to the government.
Captain America: The one we're investigating for working with HYDRA?
Tony Stark: Let's put a pin in that right now.
Captain America: Dokay.
Tony Stark: I'm sure they won't abuse this power.
X-factor: Like make us work with Sabertooth and Mystique.
Professor X: Or build monster robots to hunt us down like animals.
Tony Stark: I believe in this nation.
Red Skull: You know, I had your job before you did. I kept it longer.
Tony Stark: Listen poindexter, I will BEAT your asses if you don't work with registration.
Director Hill: Hey! Captain, will you work with us?
Captain America: I don't like it but I...
Director Hill: Oh yes and please make it a point to hunt down your fellow superheroes instead of supervillains if they don't do this.
Captain America: I don't think that's a good...
Director Hill: OR I WILL KILL YOU.
Captain America: Ah Screw this.
Director Hill: Weird, I was using my nice voice.
***
Tony Stark: Peter, don't worry about giving away your secret identity.
Spiderman: Because you'll stand with me to fight off Supervillains and help defend me against legal costs right?
Tony Stark: Oh hell no. I'm too busy looking posh.
Mr. Fantastic: You know what I love? McCarthyism.
Director Hill: Oh by the way, Mr. F can we use you to build a super prison for superheroes?
Spiderman: Why aren't people paying for something like this for...I dunno.....Apocalypse?
Director Hill: Because apparently we hate our heroes more than we hate terrorists.
***
Speedball: I DID NOTHING WRONG! ATTICA! ATTICA!
Lawyer: Umm...you realize you're involved in 600 cases of manslaughter.
Speedball: But that's not possible.
Lawyer: I mean, seriously dude, you're guilty as hell. You attacked a supervillain who EXPLODES in the middle of a residential district. We're offering you a way out.
Speedball: I will be exonerated.
Lawyer: Dumbass.
***
Captain America: Yes, we're going to go underground and fight the MAN!
Falcon: Word up homey.
Batman: Okay, jackass, you don't get to steal my Dark Knight Returns stickhe.
Captain America: Yes, Americans need to know that authority should rest within the hands of an elite few guided solely by their consciences with no one to answer to but each other. I am that man!
Red Skull: You know, Captain, you're suddenly starting to make sense to me.
Captain America: And we have Nick Fury's help for this!
Nick Fury: It's the least I can do. You know, I already have everyone's secret identity on file. The whole registration thing makes no sense.
Captain America: Funny that.
😆 It's funny cos it's true 😂