Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I think the idea of having trained superheroes is good, actually. You get powers. Now, you have something to make living of, like sport stars. You sign up with S.H.I.E.L.D, and you get very interesting (but dangerous) job, where you are sent to all over the world to fight invading aliens, stop natural disasters, and stop supervillains, only AFTER you have been trained in use of your powers and what to do in situations like them. Basically, you would be doing what you were doing in other situation, only that you would get paid by it, and you would be a professional.Don't see a problem there.
But, the problem is that sooner or later, someone wrong will get your information, and will kill your family as a revenge. Because the enemies you fight are not like normal crooks, they can kill a human with simple thought. Another problem are the "Hero hunters", they are taking this WAY too violently.
But seriously, if it was not for the problems I was talking about, I would be all for Registration.
exactly
Originally posted by Soujaboy
So if you had the power you wouldn't save those who didn't have the power to save themselves?
Of course. But in the same vein I would also take responsbility for whatever damage I, or someone in the same position as me, caused. If a law such as this is passed resulting from the constant instances of ineptitude by other heroes I would sign up, if not for me then for the other heroes like me who do need training. I can't be part of a group/movement that is continually messing up and have to be constantly pointing the finger cause it was someone else in a costume. I would quickly register so we can all get back to doing our jobs
Originally posted by SoujaboyThe government isn't asking the heroes to reveal themselves to the public. That was Spidey's decision on his own. Hell, May encouraged him into it more than Stark did.
Because it puts your family in danger. Doc Oc no longer has to attack Spider Man head on, he only has to grab Aunt May and he gets what he wants.
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
Thing is, if they're there when a mugging happens, they can do a citizens arrest, just like any ordianry person. The problem comes when they head out looking for trouble.
"Looking for trouble"? No superhero goes out looking to get into a fight. They're just looking to save lives! If they made a citizens arrest, they need to stay there until the cops get there. That means they'll know he/she used his/her power (Spidey, for example, would've used webbing or something like that), then their identity is revealed.
Originally posted by SoujaboyTaking teenages out on crime-fighting sprees.
What immediate danger does Captain America pose?
Do you REALLY want teams like Power Pack to remain on the streets. Do you trust that a kid that hasn't even hit puberty yet knows the best course of action in a crisis situation?
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I think the idea of having trained superheroes is good, actually. You get powers. Now, you have something to make living of, like sport stars. You sign up with S.H.I.E.L.D, and you get very interesting (but dangerous) job, where you are sent to all over the world to fight invading aliens, stop natural disasters, and stop supervillains, only AFTER you have been trained in use of your powers and what to do in situations like them. Basically, you would be doing what you were doing in other situation, only that you would get paid by it, and you would be a professional.Don't see a problem there.
But, the problem is that sooner or later, someone wrong will get your information, and will kill your family as a revenge. Because the enemies you fight are not like normal crooks, they can kill a human with simple thought. Another problem are the "Hero hunters", they are taking this WAY too violently.
But seriously, if it was not for the problems I was talking about, I would be all for Registration.
Look, things like villians finding out your identity can happen whether you work with the government or not. You are in fact more prone to be spotted while changing in your apartment than you are to have someone hack into a government mainframe and get your personal info anyway. And with SHIELD knowing most hero's ID's anyway I don't see what else bad could come out of registering.
Originally posted by marvelprince
But thats the point. If you really want to help people, if you would easily put your life in danger to save someone you don't even know why can't you just reveal yourself to the government?
If you had insanely powerful enemies out there, enemies that would torture and destory your loved ones in the BLINK of an eye upon finding out your identity...would you still do it? Knowing that there is a 99.9% chance that they will go after your family when you're out working for the government?
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
The government isn't asking the heroes to reveal themselves to the public. That was Spidey's decision on his own. Hell, May encouraged him into it more than Stark did.
What did Stark tell Peter when they were on that Plane? he basically said that if your not with me, you will be hunt down and attacked. What kind of a law is that? I thought American was supposed to be civil.
You think Speedball deserves what he's going through right now? You think that Johnny Storm deserved to be beat into that coma? well once people know your identity that whats going to happen.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I think the idea of having trained superheroes is good, actually. You get powers. Now, you have something to make living of, like sport stars. You sign up with S.H.I.E.L.D, and you get very interesting (but dangerous) job, where you are sent to all over the world to fight invading aliens, stop natural disasters, and stop supervillains, only AFTER you have been trained in use of your powers and what to do in situations like them. Basically, you would be doing what you were doing in other situation, only that you would get paid by it, and you would be a professional.Don't see a problem there.
But, the problem is that sooner or later, someone wrong will get your information, and will kill your family as a revenge. Because the enemies you fight are not like normal crooks, they can kill a human with simple thought. Another problem are the "Hero hunters", they are taking this WAY too violently.
But seriously, if it was not for the problems I was talking about, I would be all for Registration.
Agreed. Unfortunately, you can't get the good without the horribly bad.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Look, things like villians finding out your identity can happen whether you work with the government or not. You are in fact more prone to be spotted while changing in your apartment than you are to have someone hack into a government mainframe and get your personal info anyway. And with SHIELD knowing most hero's ID's anyway I don't see what else bad could come out of registering.
There no longer supposed to "hide behind the mask". The American people want there identity's public.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
If you had insanely powerful enemies out there, enemies that would torture and destory your loved ones in the BLINK of an eye upon finding out your identity...would you still do it? Knowing that there is a 99.9% chance that they will go after your family when you're out working for the government?
How will they find out its you? There is a damn good chance someone could just spot you changing into your costume than them hacking into government files to get your ID
Originally posted by Soujaboy
There no longer supposed to "hide behind the mask". The American people want there identity's public.
But thats not what SHRA is. The act only requires you register with the government and undergo training. Thats it. After that if you want to reveal your identity to the world thats completely up to you
Originally posted by marvelprince
How will they find out its you? There is a damn good chance someone could just spot you changing into your costume than them hacking into government files to get your ID
Dude, you read comics. That information will get possessed in five minutes tops by some evil villian. That's how it works.
Yea, there's always the chance that they'll get spotted changing elsewhere, but they've also been doing this for decades. Me thinks they've mastered this little artform now.
Originally posted by MetalmanxSuperheroes patrol. Merriam-Webster defines "patrol" as: "the action of traversing a district or beat or of going the rounds along a chain of guards for observation or the maintenance of security." Sounds like they're looking for any trouble to me.
"Looking for trouble"? No superhero goes out looking to get into a fight. They're just looking to save lives! If they made a citizens arrest, they need to stay there until the cops get there. That means they'll know he/she used his/her power (Spidey, for example, would've used webbing or something like that), then their identity is revealed.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerI think that is what Civil War is trying to get across it is a good idea but what if the heros don't want it because they would feel to unsafe for loved ones. Then should they be forced or go into retirement.
I think the idea of having trained superheroes is good, actually. You get powers. Now, you have something to make living of, like sport stars. You sign up with S.H.I.E.L.D, and you get very interesting (but dangerous) job, where you are sent to all over the world to fight invading aliens, stop natural disasters, and stop supervillains, only AFTER you have been trained in use of your powers and what to do in situations like them. Basically, you would be doing what you were doing in other situation, only that you would get paid by it, and you would be a professional.Don't see a problem there.
But, the problem is that sooner or later, someone wrong will get your information, and will kill your family as a revenge. Because the enemies you fight are not like normal crooks, they can kill a human with simple thought. Another problem are the "Hero hunters", they are taking this WAY too violently.
But seriously, if it was not for the problems I was talking about, I would be all for Registration.
That is what Civil War is supposed to be both sides being right but going about it in the wrong way.