I am not going so much with dialogue as I am with thought, but dialogue can apply. Thought cannot be deemed non canon, since plain and simple, as it was not canonically labeled within the movies.From Leeland Chee: [b]If it's just narrative, or someone's thoughts, or could fit in a scene between scenes, then it could certainly be valid
Examples of Obi Wan’s thoughts:
The man he faced was everything Obi-Wan had devoted his life to destroying: Murderer. Traitor. Fallen Jedi. Lord of the Sith. And here, and now, despite it all ...
Obi-Wan still loved him.”
And he knew that to strike Anakin down would burn his own heart to ash.”
“He would see his friend, his student, his brother, turn and kneel in front of a black-cloaked Lord of the Sith”
An example of “scene between scenes”, would be:
«You hesitate,» Anakin said. «The flaw of compassion," To which Kenobi replies “«It's not compassion,» Obi-Wan said sadly. «It's reverence for life. Even yours. It's respect for the man you were.»
The battle cuts from Anakin vs Obi Wan, and Palpatine vs Yoda. This dialogue could be in between such cuts.
You can clearly see hesitation and heartbreak in Obi-Wan’s thoughts. By that very fact, it is evident he was in no way, shape, or form, in prime condition. Hell, Obi Wan nearly had a breakdown by the end of the duel. His pain was genuine and deep, far deeper than any pain Anakin was experiencing. Anakin on the otherhand should be at a theoretical max due to his fury.
Dude, you are making an observation and trying to make your own canon of that battle, which is Obi-wan was not hesitating, from these observations. The fact is, written clearly by G-canon novelization which Chee himself states is a valid compliment to the movies, he was damn conflicted. He could have been swinging downwards, half-heartedly, which could be the entire reason Anakin was able to escape the blow.
No, as I said before EVEN if Obi Wan was hesitating, which I doubt from the visual of the movie, its the sheer fact that there is a BIG difference between Anakins states of mind. Your trying to alike Anakins berserker rage to his pinnacle of power. No. Its been reiterated so many times the difference between controlling your anger and letting your anger control you.
"You must learn my apprentice. Hate is a great ally, but you have allowed your hate to be used against you." - Sidious
Anakin on Mustafar was overwhelmed with emotion letting his hate and rage control him, that is NOT his strongest.
If we only go by how the movie’s portray things, you can easily see that Vader is a slow ass piece of crap, who only won against an old man and a noob. Zett Jukasa would probably own him 24-7.
I could dissect that and even prove that false BY going from the movies but I hint the sarcasm.
Can you show me, in the novel, or in the movie where it states that Anakin, in a state, where he should theoretically be at his best was not? The fury should be what gives him the sheer offensive edge. Was he not thinking properly?
"His firewalls have opened so that the terror and rage are out there, in the fight instead of in his head and Anakins mind is clear as a crystal bell
In that pristine clarity, there is only one thing he must do.
Decide.
So he does.
He decides to win." ROTS novel pg 80
And there you have it THAT was Anakins best, when he is projecting his rage and fear into the battle and his mind is free of all restrictions and self doubt, unlike in his Obi Wan duel when he had the rage and fear, doubled with the fact that its Obi Wan he's fighting and he's got Padme and her "betrayal" in his mind as well.
Scan the passage if you could? I have lent my copy to a friend unfortunately.
I don't have a scanner.
Prove that it was short. Only because six attacks were narrated does not mean that there were only six attacks made by Kas’im.
Listen to yourself "prove that stuff happened that wasn't narrated simply cause I want to believe it." After that little attack that was described by Drew Bane goes on the attack and Drew writes NOTHING of Kas'im's attack but CONSTANTLY talks about Kas'ims backpedaling and running through the temple for his life.
Even if you are defending, it does not mean that you are not using a lightsaber form. There are plenty of times when Dooku was defending against Anakin, or Anakin was defending against Dooku. Anakin defended, parried plenty of times against Ventress. Were they not using lightsaber forms while they were defending?
Oh Jesus Christ
"Each time he tried to change tactics or switch forms, Bane anticipated, reacted and seized the advantage."
There it is EVERY TIME he tried to do something Bane was all over him, he COULDN'T switch styles to give Bane a show case of each that your trying to prove.
"The Blademaster became desperate. Leaping, spinning, ducking, rolling: he was wild and reckless in his retreat."
And there you have it he was displaying no form in his retreat other then form: I gotta get the f*ck otta here.
I have reason to suspect that padawan’s received more training, given that they were Kaan’s hope for the future of the war.
Oh yes his future hopes for war that mostly ALL of them received no actual training other then basic swordplay from Kas'im. They blew, I wouldn't be surprised if Liea has MORE training then them.
Not being able to control a “visionary” like Bane is more a plot device and highlights Bane’s charisma, not Qordis’ incompetence. Your downplaying, not looking at facts as Karapshyn intended.
At that point in the novel Bane was nothing more then a rebellious youth, "You can't teach me!!" "Im running away to the Valley of the Dark Lords THEY'LL teach me!!!" hardly a visionary.