Thanos vs Superman

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How many feet did Galactus go? Does the comic Say? How many feat did Superman and WW send the Quantum Zealot? It's all speculative and Subjective.

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He clearly goes further than merely being knocked off his feet or staggered wouldn't you say? Post the scan of the Superman/Wonder Woman feat and we'll compare.

Thanos is stronger than Supes, we dont know the strenght of the blasts Odin used except for the fact that they were well beyond Silver Surfer's durability; thats as much as we need to know to be sure that Thanos has a durability that goes beyong that of Supes.

Originally posted by Wally West
http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactus14jn.jpg

He clearly goes further than merely being knocked off his feet or staggered wouldn't you say? Post the scan of the Superman/Wonder Woman feat and we'll compare.

I'm not comparing anything. I'm saying how do you know how it was hundreds of feat that Big G went back? And there is no way to compare as the QUantum Zealot was clearly angry and ready for the JLA and Big G was cought off guard. IF you tackle me when im not ready, Of course you can knock be back far. Try it when i'm ready and you'll have less success. Try it when I"m mad and fighting back and you will have very little success.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm just saying, There is no proper way to gage just how much force odin was using against thanos since he wasn't going all out. Superman as it seems can take blast from sky father beings. Even tuffer. Superman help fight S'ivaa the destoyer who is beyond Odin. Doesn't make him win in a fight against Thanos. I'm not whining, but Thanos doesn't have any easy time of it with superman. And Since Superman has taken shots from DS who is clearly more powerful than Thanos, and S'ivaa, does that mean that in a Thanos vs. Superman fight, Thanos doesn't have the power to put superman down either?

There is a proper way to calculate it.

One small blast took out Drax. Another blast took out Surfer.

About ten big blasts did not take out Thanos.

Originally posted by Bentley
Thanos is stronger than Supes, we dont know the strenght of the blasts Odin used except for the fact that they were well beyond Silver Surfer's durability; thats as much as we need to know to be sure that Thanos has a durability that goes beyong that of Supes.

Supes has Taken blast from DS, Blast that have completely owned beings mightier than Thanos, and SUpers has taken hits from S'ivaa the multiversal Destroyer. So is thanos really more durable? SUpers survived a double black hole. Thanos got hurt in one. I think it's all subjective. Given Thanos power set, He would win over superman, but it wouldn't be a curbstomp.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm not comparing anything. I'm saying how do you know how it was hundreds of feat that Big G went back? And there is no way to compare as the QUantum Zealot was clearly angry and ready for the JLA and Big G was cought off guard. IF you tackle me when im not ready, Of course you can knock be back far. Try it when i'm ready and you'll have less success. Try it when I"m mad and fighting back and you will have very little success.

Considering that when guys like Surfer catch him off guard with huge blasts he barely notices them, when he is hit by nukes, he barely cares about them, when he is hit by Strange (off-guard I remember), he only goes few feet back, when Thanos hits him, he is sent through his ship to the surface of the planet.

Difference.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
There is a proper way to calculate it.

One small blast took out Drax. Another blast took out Surfer.

About ten big blasts did not take out Thanos.

I don't have the story, but where DRax and Surfer fighting Odin?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Considering that when guys like Surfer catch him off guard with huge blasts he barely notices them, when he is hit by nukes, he barely cares about them, when he is hit by Strange (off-guard I remember), he only goes few feet back, when Thanos hits him, he is sent through his ship to the surface of the planet.

Difference.

You missed the entire point. I was comparing what Thanos did to Big G, with what SUperman and WW did to the Zealot. He was trying to get me to compare and I made that comparison based upon that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't have the story, but where DRax and Surfer fighting Odin?

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You missed the entire point. I was comparing what Thanos did to Big G, with what SUperman and WW did to the Zealot. He was trying to get me to compare and I made that comparison based upon that.
I only remember the two of them flying as fast as they can, punching it together and only turning it's head.

That jobbing thing

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Supes has Taken blast from DS, Blast that have completely owned beings mightier than Thanos, and SUpers has taken hits from S'ivaa the multiversal Destroyer. So is thanos really more durable? SUpers survived a double black hole. Thanos got hurt in one. I think it's all subjective. Given Thanos power set, He would win over superman, but it wouldn't be a curbstomp.

You are right, he wouldnt curbstomp him, but this is exactly where Thanos superior brain will come into play. I give 10/10 to Thanos not because Supes didnt hurt him or that the battle was incredible easy. Its because Thanos even having problems with him will win everytime; his intelligence will overcome whatever Clark throws at him in the most different situations, so the variability of the results will be greatly reduced.

Thanos will NOT one-shot Superman, but he will win despite Supes best efforts to come up with a plan to beat him.

I'm sick of this "cheap shot" nonsense regarding that Thanos/Galactus feat. Its not like Thanos hit him from behind when he didn't know he was there or something, they even exchanged dialogue:

Thanos: You stand on the edge of the abyss, Devourer. Heed my words Galactus, you have been tricked!

Galactus: Who dares?

Thanos: One who only wishes to save you from a disastrous blunder. I beg you to shut down this device

Galactus: The Titan! I should have eliminated you earlier. An error I shall now recitfy

Thanos: So much for reasoning. But in truth, I always knew this matter would have to be settled the hard way!

*Bang, Thanos hits Galactus with a blast*

That is not a cheap shot, Galactus even said he was going to eliminate Thanos right there.

Re: That jobbing thing

Originally posted by Bentley
You are right, he wouldnt curbstomp him, but this is exactly where Thanos superior brain will come into play. I give 10/10 to Thanos not because Supes didnt hurt him or that the battle was incredible easy. Its because Thanos even having problems with him will win everytime; his intelligence will overcome whatever Clark throws at him in the most different situations, so the variability of the results will be greatly reduced.

Thanos will NOT one-shot Superman, but he will win despite Supes best efforts to come up with a plan to beat him.

This I agree with somewhat. I give thanos 7-8/10 becuz Superman is one of those heroes who is known for pulling Strength out of his ass.

Originally posted by Wally West
I'm sick of this "cheap shot" nonsense regarding that Thanos/Galactus feat. Its not like Thanos hit him from behind when he didn't know he was there or something, they even exchanged dialogue:

Thanos: You stand on the edge of the abyss, Devourer. Heed my words Galactus, you have been tricked!

Galactus: Who dares?

Thanos: One who only wishes to save you from a disastrous blunder. I beg you to shut down this device

Galactus: The Titan! I should have eliminated you earlier. An error I shall now recitfy

Thanos: So much for reasoning. But in truth, I always knew this matter would have to be settled the hard way!

*Bang, Thanos hits Galactus with a blast*

That is not a cheap shot, Galactus even said he was going to eliminate Thanos right there.

It's not like Big G expected Thanos to even attempt that. But I will concede. I will say that THanos put his all into that blast, and BiG G is a much easier target to hit than SUperman ever would be.

Well, thats more crappy fighting from Galactus or credit to Thanos than a cheap shot.

Originally posted by Bentley
Well, thats more crappy fighting from Galactus or credit to Thanos than a cheap shot.

Big G took blast far Superior to Thanos' own from Tenebrious and Aegis. While he was actually fighting and moving and mad. Thanos sucker punched Big G.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Odin and Tyrant Most certainly jobbed to Thanos. Just look at who Tyrant and ODin's Major Enemies are. Thanos isn't in that league. And any impressive battle Thanos has had with no prep he has been aided by the Jobber aura.

You have no clue about what "jobbing" is, do you.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Yes that was indeed what I was saying. You still haven't proved otherwise.

What? That Superman uses fligth in a tactical way as much thor uses the Godblast? Its in theyr comic showings. Flying Bricks rarely even speedblitz.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
And that's why I say they job against Thanos. You see the pattern ? Iron Man could easily stay out of Thanos' reach, it would be the smart thing to do, everybody knows that, and blast away. It won't help much against Thanos, but better that than trying a overcome him with physical strength alone.

That isent what jobbing is. Jobbing would be if Iron Man who is weaker had a win against Thanos after this one was showed as a top tier crusher. Besides, Iron Man flying would make him stay out of reach, but he would still either tag close (like heroes do) or both him and Thanos engage in a long range blast match. And Thanos would win the same because he takes the damage better, and his blasts are more powerful.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Please read Thanos Quest. If you can't manage to find it, you can read one of the numerous scans where he has teleported in combat. At least make some attempt to even understand who Thanos is before you continue on in these forums, because your lack of knowledge about his past and his abilities is astounding. This makes it entirely confusing reading your replies, because you state he has never done things that anybody who has read his comics know that he can do, such as teleporting mid-combat as a combat tactic, using forcefields to counter long range attacks, and block speed blitzes.

Yawn, I asked a simple question and you give me a lecture. How about answering a serious question ? For a change ?
You said he doesn't jump, for example, but what good is jumping going to do to someone who can levitate and teleport wherever he wants?

I only said he can't jump because there were others who claimed he could jump. That's all I said. Do you have a problem with it ?
You said he can't use telepathic powers, where clearly he brainwashed the fallen one to become his servant.

When did I say he can't use telepathic powers ? Would you mind quoting me ?
You said he has no combat skill, even after someone posted a scan of him beating one of the most deadly mercenary armies in the universe using hand to hand combat without a shield just to hone his skills.

Another misquote. Everybody acts like he's some kind of extremely skilled warrior, while the more normal people take this with a grain of salt. I clearly said he was skilled, but no Black Panter or Iron Fist.
You're really grasping at straws if you think that jumping ability is going to matter in a fight against Superman

Quote me where I said that. Quote me, please.
or that Superman is going to be able to beat Thanos with purely long ranged attacks

Quote me where I said that Superman is gonna beat Thanos with purely long ranged attacks. Quote me please.

You're not that good at quoting, are you ?

or that Thanos is susceptible to speed blitzes.

Of course he is.
He has countered all of these attacks throughout his history time and time again.

And that's what we call, a lie. Or an exaggeration. Your choice.
You keep mentioning flying abilities of Superman. What, praytell, is flying around going to do for superman? If Thanos can react in time to Silver Surfer rushing in at millions of times the speed of light, or block the Fallen One rushing in from Hyperspace

Millions of time the speed of light ? Hyperspace ?

I want some of the stuff you are smoking 😆

what is Superman flying going to do? Thanos is going to know there is a fight, so his shields are going to be up, plain and simple, you have yet to post why Superman could even get through his shields.

I have no proof whatsoever that Superman can punch through Thanos' shields. But he should be able to do so, if he has enough time.

Originally posted by olympian
You have no clue about what "jobbing" is, do you.

Oh I know I know. That's what the majority of Thanos opponents do when they are fighting Thanos.

Is that it ? Am I right ?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Yawn, I asked a simple question and you give me a lecture. How about answering a serious question ? For a change ?
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I only said he can't jump because there were others who claimed he could jump. That's all I said. Do you have a problem with it ?

When did I say he can't use telepathic powers ? Would you mind quoting me ?
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Another misquote. Everybody acts like he's some kind of extremely skilled warrior, while the more normal people take this with a grain of salt. I clearly said he was skilled, but no Black Panter or Iron Fist.

Quote me where I said that. Quote me, please.
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Quote me where I said that Superman is gonna beat Thanos with purely long ranged attacks. Quote me please.

You're not that good at quoting, are you ?
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Of course he is.
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And that's what we call, a lie. Or an exaggeration. Your choice.
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Millions of time the speed of light ? Hyperspace ?

I want some of the stuff you are smoking 😆
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I have no proof whatsoever that Superman can punch through Thanos' shields. But he should be able to do so, if he has enough time.

Get used to being misquoted. it's alot of that around here.