Thanos vs Superman

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kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by xJLxKing

Thanos tagging SS, Thor and others is no different. He tags them because of the story. In Kmc, characters fight to full potential and they aren't slowing own for the sake of the story. If my interpretation of the rules is right, Superman will be moving at nearly top speed, but still within his CIS
Not necessarily, in comics your reach a limit were said characters shows no need to use speed or speed is pretty much irrelevant. Yes that slower character hit faster characters for sake of the story which is often the case for someone like Hulk who has been shown inability to tag fast moving object. But there is always a lot of evidence supporting that that character can indeed be speedblitz and if speed is used on them they won’t be able to react. Which isn’t the case for Thanos has stopped speed blitz from the Fallen One before.

You have to ask your self have you ever seem Character above or at sky father level use Speed in battle? hardly happens IN comic books and they usually own characters who have FTL reactions.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by h1a8
The forgotten one didn't necessarily move as fast as Superman can and will.
a very ambiguous claim, like the poster above said, you have no idea how fast the angered forgotten one was moving.

and shouldn't superman stay under lightspeed to deliver maximum damage to thanos like he did with the dark moon?

KuRuPT Thanosi Senior Member

Originally posted by xJLxKing
not Never, but hardly.

In comics, it's a rule that character have hit. No matter how different their level is. Look at the Wol vs Thor. WtF!! Same with the Hulk and Thor. Same with DD vs Superman, or Superman vs WW. In reality, Superman would b able to run circles around WW (like shown in SOME fights), and DD, but it for the sake of the story.

Thanos tagging SS, Thor and others is no different. He tags them because of the story. In Kmc, characters fight to full potential and they aren't slowing own for the sake of the story. If my interpretation of the rules is right, Superman will be moving at nearly top speed, but still within his CIS

This is how your argument is all wrong… If thanos had no showings against someone trying to speed blitz him… and I was saying well Supes gets by mere humans, thus thanos would be able to hit him… That would be relevant to what you just said. However, Thanos HAS shown the ability to deal with a speed blitz on a few occasions and did quite well. It isn't just in h2h encounters with Surfer and Thor that prove the case for him being to hit Supes, it is in situations much like what Supes would do. So.. you have supes who you want to fight at full potential and just blitz Thanos.. Cool no problem.. Examples have been given of very comparable speed characters trying that and failing. Thus, your argument and what you just said is really not making much sense or even valid really.

Rulk Member

superman pretty easy

h1a8 Senior Member
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You don't know how fast he was moving correct? We know he's fast though correct? So what we can say for a fact is that thanos has super fast reflexes and can TK somebody charging right at him at a good rate of speed.

Yes we don't know what speed he was moving. That is why I used the word 'necessarily'. A good rate of speed in the eyes of humans is not the same as a good rate of speed to Superman. A bullet for example is merely a statue to Superman.

h1a8 Senior Member
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This is how your argument is all wrong… If thanos had no showings against someone trying to speed blitz him… and I was saying well Supes gets by mere humans, thus thanos would be able to hit him… That would be relevant to what you just said. However, Thanos HAS shown the ability to deal with a speed blitz on a few occasions and did quite well. It isn't just in h2h encounters with Surfer and Thor that prove the case for him being to hit Supes, it is in situations much like what Supes would do. So.. you have supes who you want to fight at full potential and just blitz Thanos.. Cool no problem.. Examples have been given of very comparable speed characters trying that and failing. Thus, your argument and what you just said is really not making much sense or even valid really.

No one Thanos has faced has the instant speed of Superman. And if they did then they obviously didn't use it.

Note: Instant speed means blink/vibration like speed within the first instant.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by h1a8
The forgotten one didn't necessarily move as fast as Superman can and will.
Based on?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Saying that the enormous speed advantage Superman has will NEVER tip the scales even once is a sign of serious bias.
Shields, tk.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
If you think Thanos energy amps count as h/h then you also have to allow Batman to use his special tazer knuckle-dusters in h/h. Generally h/h means only natural strength.
That's just way off.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
No one Thanos has faced has the instant speed of Superman. And if they did then they obviously didn't use it.

Note: Instant speed means blink/vibration like speed within the first instant.

😕

Thanos>>>>any high herald. Can someone show me Thanos being taken out or even given a challenge by a herald level being?

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes we don't know what speed he was moving. That is why I used the word 'necessarily'. A good rate of speed in the eyes of humans is not the same as a good rate of speed to Superman. A bullet for example is merely a statue to Superman.

A bullet is a statue to people like Cap and Spiderman but they would still get wrecked by thanos so what was the point of this post.

r0nm0n88 Senior Member
Originally posted by carver9
A bullet is a statue to people like Cap and Spiderman but they would still get wrecked by thanos so what was the point of this post.

well superman is alot faster alot stronger and alot more durable then those guys. Although the way you talk about supes i wouldnt be surprised if you thought his strength was around spideys.

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist

Superman is way over any high herald. He is more like an Sub-Skyfather. He can't be portryed in such a way the whole time in comics though, he needs low showings, else his comics would be boring as hell. However, almost everytime there is a major crisis you can bet your ass that someone with the S Symbol will come to save the day. The only thing keeping him from joining the ranks of the Skafathers is his love for humanity.

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by r0nm0n88
well superman is alot faster alot stronger and alot more durable then those guys. Although the way you talk about supes i wouldnt be surprised if you thought his strength was around spideys.

I didnt say anything bad about Supes in this thread, I said high heralds. He's not a lot stronger than the high heralds thats in that list, where did you get that from? Surfer speed>>every high herald. He actually have showings of moving/reacting at nanoseconds on multiple of occasions.

More durable than Surfer? Surfer is fighting two beings that is galactus level and he is still concious after this battle. I want you to show me ANYONE on the high herald list (besides thor because he has the same feats) tanking anything CLOSE to what Surfer did. Imperex one shotted Superman and almost killed him if it wasnt for darkseid.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/Annihilation-HeraldsofGalactus2-033.jpg
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carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman is way over any high herald. He is more like an Sub-Skyfather. He can't be portryed in such a way the whole time in comics though, he needs low showings, else his comics would be boring as hell. However, almost everytime there is a major crisis you can bet your ass that someone with the S Symbol will come to save the day. The only thing keeping him from joining the ranks of the Skafathers is his love for humanity.

Would you like to prove this?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman is way over any high herald. He is more like an Sub-Skyfather. He can't be portryed in such a way the whole time in comics though, he needs low showings, else his comics would be boring as hell. However, almost everytime there is a major crisis you can bet your ass that someone with the S Symbol will come to save the day. The only thing keeping him from joining the ranks of the Skafathers is his love for humanity.
This is way off. I get it that you like Superman a lot but he is nowhere near this level. He doesn't stomp on peers such as Marvel, Orion, or Adam to don't act like he can when he wants to.

You also leave out the context of the aid he has when he saves the day. Superman doesn't just show up and defeat the threat under his own power alone.

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist
Originally posted by carver9
Would you like to prove this?

What exactly 😆?

KuRuPT Thanosi Senior Member

Superman is a skyfather now? ummm ok

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Superman is a skyfather now? ummm ok

Try again, read again, think again 😉

He, like Thanos, isn't a skyfather.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Superman is a skyfather now? ummm ok
I guess so is Orion, Black Adam, Captain Marvel, etc. Lots of skyfathers over there.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

PC Superman would probably be classified as Skyfather or at least trans.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Omega Vision
PC Superman would probably be classified as Skyfather or at least trans.
We aren't talking about pc Supes for one. Secondly, I disagree.