Thanos vs Superman

Started by OneDumbG0399 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
That's average speed not instantaneous speed. Plus the number is off, it's more like 10,512,000 (not 10,752,688).

Do the math and u will see that he didn't reach light speed within the first 3m of travel.

I'll do it for you. First lets find the acceleration. Let D be the distance of a light year in meters, 'a' the acceleration in meters per second^2, and t for time in seconds.

D=299792458*3600*24*365
t=3

Now
D=1/2at^2
=> a=2D/t^2

Now that we know 'a' we find the speed Vf SS reached after the first 3 meters of travel.

Vf^2=2ad where d=3 meters
=>Vf=sqrt(2*a*d)
=sqrt(2*2*D/t^2*d)
=[b]112274990
meters per second
Light speed is 299792458 meters per second

So SS obtained 37.45% of speed of light within after the first 3 meters of travel. [/B]

The math is wrong. SS could have hit 10,000,000X speed of light instantly, not accelerate any further and get to Thanos' raised hand in approximately 3 seconds. Or he could have stood nearly still for 2 seconds and then instantly accelerated to 30,000,000X speed of light to make up for lost time and again, get there in approximately 3 seconds. Or any varying number of combinations.

You're assuming a constant rate of acceleration (if you're even doing that). There is no mathematical equation for determining exact acceleration based only on total distance and total time travelled.

Originally posted by Blanket
It's the Bieb in me.
😂

Originally posted by 753
you are calling me a troll when it was you who brought up SS and SM in the first place? hahahaha

I'm done with the SS comparison to SM for now.

Regarding the running joke 'combo to ko' theory. Given their history of feats, SM will not stun thanos before he can react and even if SM's dodging is impressive, area attacks will get to him just the same.

I didn't bring up SS at all. I think you are confusing me with someone else. None of your scans prove that SS can reach lightspeed within the first 3 m of travel. All your scans are not working as well.

This is Thanos vs. Superman not SS vs. Superman. You are trolling. How fast SS is is irrelevant to this fight.

I will debate against Surfer when it is relevant.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The math is wrong. SS could have hit 10,000,000X speed of light instantly, not accelerate any further and get to Thanos' raised hand in approximately 3 seconds. Or he could have stood nearly still for 2 seconds and then instantly accelerated to 30,000,000X speed of light to make up for lost time and again, get there in approximately 3 seconds. Or any varying number of combinations.

You're assuming a constant rate of acceleration (if you're even doing that). There is no mathematical equation for determining exact acceleration based only on total distance and total time travelled.


It's logically impossible to reach any speed instantly.

SS was moving with constant acceleration (not constant speed) since he was exerting constant force.

With constant force comes constant acceleration. My math is correct.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's logically impossible to reach any speed instantly.

SS was moving with constant acceleration (not constant speed) since he was exerting constant force.

With constant force comes constant acceleration. My math is correct.

you have a cosmic board that travels faster than light to disprove that?

and again, your math's only problem is that YOU'RE the one doing it.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's logically impossible to reach any speed instantly.

SS was moving with constant acceleration (not constant speed) since he was exerting constant force.

With constant force comes constant acceleration. My math is correct.

Your math is ridiculous.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you have a cosmic board that travels faster than light to disprove that?

and again, your math's only problem is that YOU'RE the one doing it.

What u said is not relevant. Cosmic boards have nothing to do with what I said.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's logically impossible to reach any speed instantly.
lol, please

we're discussing a medium in which characters are portrayed as being strong enough to literally punch through reality.

logic is expendable.

Superman

Originally posted by h1a8
It's logically impossible to reach any speed instantly.

SS was moving with constant acceleration (not constant speed) since he was exerting constant force.

With constant force comes constant acceleration. My math is correct.

1. You keep insisting on using real world physics to describe comic book events even when clearly faulty, especially when dealing with cosmic characters.

2. Even if you are going to foolishly apply physics to comics, your math would be incorrect. You are trying to apply classical mechanics to a situation that clearly deals with special relativity. So no, your math is not correct.

3. Thanos easily wins this.

Originally posted by jdonaghy
1. You keep insisting on using real world physics to describe comic book events even when clearly faulty, especially when dealing with cosmic characters.

2. Even if you are going to foolishly apply physics to comics, your math would be incorrect. You are trying to apply classical mechanics to a situation that clearly deals with special relativity. So no, your math is not correct.

3. Thanos easily wins this.

Let me school u too.

Logically impossible has absolutely nothing to do with real world physics (which is based on factual possible).
God can't even do anything logically impossible.

For example, it is logically impossible to draw a square circle. But it is not logically impossible for humans to have wings and fly (it is factually impossible though).

There is no special relativity in Marvel universe my friend. Also special relativity may be false anyway.

Superman wins easily by the combo to ko.

Originally posted by h1a8
What u said is not relevant. Cosmic boards have nothing to do with what I said.
sure it is. and sure it does

the main problem is your constant use of double standards, especially with fictional characters.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
sure it is. and sure it does

the main problem is your constant use of double standards, especially with fictional characters.

no double standard here. Just facts.

k

bring the comic (that part alone is a big problem) to your physics professor and have them try and calculate any of it, then bring the results back here. you know, someone without personal prejudice against marvel characters.

considering all the the unknowns, i'll be surprised if you don't get slapped in the ear for wasting their time with nonsense, but that's just me.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...

sloppily making shit up is worse

Verbal diarrhea.

Are there now two of this? Anyway, Superman wins.

suuperman gets stomped

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't bring up SS at all. I think you are confusing me with someone else. None of your scans prove that SS can reach lightspeed within the first 3 m of travel. All your scans are not working as well.

This is Thanos vs. Superman not SS vs. Superman. You are trolling. How fast SS is is irrelevant to this fight.

I will debate against Surfer when it is relevant.

Your original post preceding all of this:

"Superman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SS in speed within battle distance. Both can reach anyspeed they desire provided they accelerate to that speed. SS has never been able to reach light speed within the first 3m of battle. I once did a calculation of some of his best travel feats to prove this."

You brought this up math troll

1. You are yet to prove that SM can reach insta-lightspeed or even lightspeed in under 3 meters.

2. Redo the math on IG using a second (still a lot longer than it takes to throw a punch by a regular human), if he reached 40% of light using the 3 second estimative, how fast would it take using an actual punch speed?

3. Do the math on the half a million light years, use a full minute or an whole hour of travel, if it pleases you. Even though it certainly did not take that long.

4. ODG was right, there is no reason to assume constant acceleration and it is, in fact, not logically impossible to reach any speed instantly. It is only impossible for a square circle to exist because both forms are mental abstractions and their concepts are mutually exclusive, we cant imagine said form. The same does not apply to instantaneous accelaration. Not to mention that the very idea of inherent impossibility of the 'logically impossible' is a grotesque and mistaken valorization of rationalism discourse over empiricism and the search for actual facts. Logic is a culturally influenced human mental faculty not the nature of the cosmos and to assume so is beyond bizarre.

5. The malfunctionig of my scans has been addresed, just go to his respect thread and look under speed feats, they are all there.