Thanos vs Superman

All of these are normal power. The only one that arguably is not is the rot example. He kills a priest of pama earlier in the storyline and says it grants him the power of death. As far as I can tell, however, this did not grant him any powers; it simply allowed him to grant powers to others. (these are the "godlings" he refers, one of which fought the avengers to a standstill) Even to do that, however, he had to kill and use the lifeforce of the one killed to boost his new "godling."

I'm not picking out storylines where thanos is shown as particularly powerful, btw. This covers pretty much all of his recent apperances. The only one left out is the Kazar storyline, and that was retconned to be a "low-model clone."

This is why superman has no chance against thanos. Honestly, anyone who thinks otherwise is, in my opinion, a little batty, or EXTREMELY ILL INFORMED. Virtually EVERY ONE OF THANOS' ENEMIES is a universe-destroying threat. Superman, in contrast, is fighting enemies like cythonna and blackrock. And needs massive assistance and plot devices against true cosmic threats like imperiex.

A few panels later, Galactus was about to destroy Thanos, but Thanos begged him to listen.

Originally posted by who?-kid
A few panels later, Galactus was about to destroy Thanos, but Thanos begged him to listen.

1. Beg is your interpretation. He says "Stay your hand, Galactus."

2. What's your point? Near full-power galactus could kill a million super-man level heros. Near full-power galactus could probably kill a million skyfathers.

The other point to make out here is that there are obviously not many strength feats here. Because, GUESS WHAT? THANOS' ENEMIES ARE IMMUNE TO PHYSICAL BLOWS.

The best we have are earlier storylines, when thanos was still fighting groups like the FF with regularity. And in those earlier, pre-death feats, we have thanos doing things like:

1. KO'ing the Thing with a flick of his fingers. (And the thing, while not hulk strong, is hulk durable)
2. Destroying a planet in a fistfight with drax.
3. More recently, smacking around warrior madness thor with the power gem.

This guy is not stronger than superman? Please.

Ive said it before, and Ill say it again. Anyone below In-Betweener is NO match for Thanos. Superman will lose everytime to the Titan. I doubt he can even cause him pain

Thanos 20/10

Great scans by the way 👆

Originally posted by slade10
And in those earlier, pre-death feats, we have thanos doing things like:
1. KO'ing the Thing with a flick of his fingers. (And the thing, while not hulk strong, is hulk durable)

I left out the scan of death (yes, DEATH) proposing to thanos:

Oh, and he tps away afterwards. But only with tech, right guys? 🙄

Originally posted by who?-kid
Thing DEFINITELY isn't as durable as Hulk.

He's taken blows from thor about as well as hulk. He doesn't regen like hulk, but it's similarly hard, imo, to put him down. Thanos did it with a flick of his fingers.

Wow...he told Death that it wasnt worthy......

The other thing to point out is that most of these fights occur in the vacuum of space. But wait, according to some people thanos is helpless in space because he can't fly? Right? He can't fly? All you ahve to do is knock him into space I tell you!!!!!!

Superman > thanos because superman can fly!!!!! 🙄

Originally posted by slade10
He's taken blows from thor about as well as hulk. He doesn't regen like hulk, but it's similarly hard, imo, to put him down. Thanos did it with a flick of his fingers.

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Thanos' 12 issue run was before his powerup?
That's where most of those scans are from.
I would think not given his conversation with Death in issue 7.
I thought it was back a little farther that he got powered up.

And the scans are a little bias, given they only tell a piece of the story. Like the Galactus ones, hitting Galactus isn't really all that impressive to me, defeating him[downing him or making him retreat] is. One of those two things Thanos did not do.

And Thanos made Fallen One defeat himself, it even says it in the comic, though we really get to see nothing of it given that it was the last comic of his run. Your making it sound like Thanos just mashed him bad sure sounds cool though, but hey even Dr Doom or The Riddler can plot device people to death.

Also, I must be overlooking it, but where's the scan of him flying?

Thanos cannot currently be killed

Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos' 12 issue run was before his powerup?
That's where most of those scans are from.
I would think not given his conversation with Death in issue 7.
I thought it was back a little farther that he got powered up.

What power up? He got powered up by death twice: once when he was turned to stone, and a second time prior to the IG saga (where it is stated he was granted 10x power)? These were permanent power-ups, not temporary ones. The feats that I said were prior to ANY power up were the strength feats (with the exception of the wm fight)

And no, these are not mostly from thanos' 12 issue run. Galactus, maker, and fallen one pics are; the rest are not. Though I'm not sure why it matters.

Originally posted by Juntai

And the scans are a little bias, given they only tell a piece of the story. Like the Galactus ones, hitting Galactus isn't really all that impressive to me, defeating him[downing him or making him retreat] is. One of those two things Thanos did not do.

Not impressive? Odin, zeus, vishnu, and the combined might of all the skyfathers could not even MOVE a celestial. Galactus full power can eat celestials and destroy the universe. I guess you can see superman doing the same to near full power galactus with heat vision? 🙄

Originally posted by Juntai

And Thanos made Fallen One defeat himself, it even says it in the comic, though we really get to see nothing of it given that it was the last comic of his run. Your making it sound like Thanos just mashed him bad sure sounds cool though, but hey even Dr Doom or The Riddler can plot device people to death.

Pulling an asteroid field to KO someone is a plot device? I did leave out one scan (on accident) that shows the wasp girl laying out the final, blow, however. That may be why you're confused as to how he got KO'd. (the wasp girl also hurt the beyonder, so she's apparently no lightweight)

Originally posted by Juntai

Also, I must be overlooking it, but where's the scan of him flying?

When he gains his cosmic energy back from the messiah, death and thanos fly out of the ship and attack the rot. But perhaps he can't fly AS FAST as superman? So superman still wins, right? Because superman flies FAST.

Oh, btw, previous to that attack, everyone else on the ship had tried using their various energies on the rot (including quoia, who is god of life and an avatar of eternity) to no effect.

Originally posted by slade10
You're fixated on superman.

Referencing her power on superman tells us nothing when superman's power is what we are trying to judge. The fact is, lois in a kryptonian warsuit pulled her off when superman himself could not break her grip.

And you are a Thanos fanboy.

So what? Adamantium can break through Thanos hide. That already means the true ULTRON is physically more durable than Thanos. If Supes tore Darkseid up near the sun. He can do the same to Thanos.

Oh yea, at the time the Cythonna thing happened, DS was still pimpin Supes as well. Thanos isn't the only one who gets power ups.
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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
And you are a Thanos fanboy.

So what? Adamantium can break through Thanos hide. That already means the true ULTRON is physically more durable than Thanos. If Supes tore Darkseid up near the sun. He can do the same to Thanos.

Oh yea, at the time the Cythonna thing happened, DS was still pimpin Supes as well. Thanos isn't the only one who gets power ups.
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I'm a thanos fanboy? I've gone on the record as saying that I think thanos is a terrible, cliched character, and that his storylines are mindlessly repetitious. Quite different from saying he isn't powerful -- in particular, more powerful than superman types. Anyone who's remotely objective should, imo, conclude that superman gets CRUSHED. A single one of those punisher robots thanos is blowing to bits would give superman the fight of his life.

Originally posted by slade10
Speaking of propositions without proof... people always say that sun-boosted superman is vastly powerful. Yet we have this:

This is against an ice being who explicitly states that she's being weakened by the sun's fire, and is subsequently trapped by the sun's gravity (albeit after being hit with a kryptonite grenade). Superman can't break her grip until Lois in a Kryptonian warsuit shows up...

And then we have this. 🙂

Imperiex Powered Brainiac. Nobody could do hurt this guy. All metas in the system were easily killed/stalemated by this guy.

Steel in the Aegis was the only one who was able to break on his tendrils, and then even THAT was negated. Who breaks through Braniac like hot knife through butter?

Sun dipped Supes. He also moves an armored planet with light speed engines pushing AGAINST him, and being blasted and attacked by a being who is one with ENTROPY. In that mode NOTHING was shown to be able to hurt him. Period.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
And then we have this. 🙂

Which shows....? That superman can fly?

PS I already posted the scan of fiery superman straining to push warworld, which iirc is smaller than earth's moon. Of course, thanos pre-power ups destroyed a planet (presumably larger than earth, since earth is a tiny planet) accidentally in a fistfight....

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind

Imperiex Powered Brainiac. Nobody could do hurt this guy. All metas in the system were easily killed/stalemated by this guy.

Steel in the Aegis was the only one who was able to break on his tendrils, and then even THAT was negated. Who breaks through Braniac like hot knife through butter?

Sun dipped Supes. He also moves an armored planet with light speed engines pushing AGAINST him, and being blasted and attacked by a being who is one with ENTROPY. In that mode NOTHING was shown to be able to hurt him. Period.

You're still using fallacious logic. Evaluating superman's strength by comparing him to weaker heros is pointless. They're weaker than superman before, they're weaker than superman after.

The fact is he is straining to push warworld, which is the size of a small moon. Thanos, prior to an at least 10x power up by death, destroyed a planet accidentally in a fistfight. That is probably at least 1000x larger than warworld.

Not to mention there's a vast gap between being able to move something and being able to destroy. I can move a pebble around, even throw it. I'd have a hard time destroying it with my fists.