Originally posted by quanchi112The point is that it's impossible to separate the two. Anything he accomplished with the gauntlet, stays with the gauntlet. Anything Hal did with nigh omnipotent power, stays there as well.
No, because his power levels were obviously much higher as were Thanos'. Thanos still retained infinite power but he turned off the ability to see his opponents next moves meaning he fought under his own reflexes. The comic literally states this and people assume the opposite which means they simply don't want to acknowledge the feat. That's pretty much what it boils down to in my eyes.Here comes the typical routine where you insult the other poster. You do it all the time when backed into a corner. The comic bends over backwards to explain Thanos is giving them a chance and toning down his abilities to see their moves/movements before they occur meaning he is using his own reflexes with infinite power to combat them to impress death.
Nothing you speculate about is implied. It's actually common sense when reading the issue and seeing how he fought the heroes you can tell his reflexes aren't amped at all.
To suggest they were pretty much assumes he's got zombie like reflexes since you consider these ones incapable of by normal Thanos.
Even if Superman lands the first or 2nd blow it isn't doing squat to Thanos. I fail to see how you give Superman a single win considering what Thanos has stood up to and considering it's well beyond Superman's power or strength to achieve. This isn't a comic book and you describe any top notch hero. It's Thanos' job to be above heroes and for groups to form to combat him. On kmc or any other board the hero can be killed. Thanos wins.
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Originally posted by quanchi112Not seeing an opponent's next move =/= seeing an opponent's movement. Learn English. ENGLISH motherf*cker, do you speak it?
Here comes the typical routine where you insult the other poster. You do it all the time when backed into a corner. The comic bends over backwards to explain Thanos is giving them a chance and toning down his abilities to see their moves/movements before they occur meaning he is using his own reflexes with infinite power to combat them to impress death.Nothing you speculate about is implied. It's actually common sense when reading the issue and seeing how he fought the heroes you can tell his reflexes aren't amped at all.
To suggest they were pretty much assumes he's got zombie like reflexes since you consider these ones incapable of by normal Thanos.
It's common sense that he had the Infinity Gauntlet during the fight. Acting like anything he did in that fight can be separated from the IG is stupidity beyond measure.
That didn't make sense. Your ship be sinking.
Originally posted by JuntaiSee I can since he specifically toned down his abilities yet kept his power levels.
The point is that it's impossible to separate the two. Anything he accomplished with the gauntlet, stays with the gauntlet. Anything Hal did with nigh omnipotent power, stays there as well.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Same thing he can see their movement next move whatever. He can tell what they are going to do before they do it with the ig you silly predictable renegade poster you.
^ 👆 Not seeing an opponent's next move =/= seeing an opponent's movement. Learn English. ENGLISH motherf*cker, do you speak it?It's common sense that he had the Infinity Gauntlet during the fight. Acting like anything he did in that fight can be separated from the IG is stupidity beyond measure.
That didn't make sense. Your ship be sinking.
What made you think his reflexes were amped though in the book? Please explain.
Originally posted by quanchi112This is where your logic is messed up. Not seeing the opponents next move has nothing to do with reflexes. One can have greatly enhanced reflexes without future seeing.
No, because his power levels were obviously much higher as were Thanos'. Thanos still retained infinite power but he turned off the ability to see his opponents next moves meaning he fought under his own reflexes. The comic literally states this and people assume the opposite which means they simply don't want to acknowledge the feat. That's pretty much what it boils down to in my eyes.Here comes the typical routine where you insult the other poster. You do it all the time when backed into a corner. The comic bends over backwards to explain Thanos is giving them a chance and toning down his abilities to see their moves/movements before they occur meaning he is using his own reflexes with infinite power to combat them to impress death.
Then that would contradict him dodging Surfer wouldn't it. Or did he actually purposely dodge Surfer?
Nothing you speculate about is implied. It's actually common sense when reading the issue and seeing how he fought the heroes you can tell his reflexes aren't amped at all.
You overestimate Thanos greatly, especially when faced with physical might. Superman will rock his world completely and fast.
Even if Superman lands the first or 2nd blow it isn't doing squat to Thanos. I fail to see how you give Superman a single win considering what Thanos has stood up to and considering it's well beyond Superman's power or strength to achieve. This isn't a comic book and you describe any top notch hero. It's Thanos' job to be above heroes and for groups to form to combat him. On kmc or any other board the hero can be killed. Thanos wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112Not knowing your opponent's next move =/= not seeing your opponent's movement. Learn English.
See I can since he specifically toned down his abilities yet kept his power levels. Same thing he can see their movement next move whatever. He can tell what they are going to do before they do it with the ig you silly predictable renegade poster you.What made you think his reflexes were amped though in the book? Please explain.
Lacking any comprehension of the English language =/= excuse to making crap up.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0It's the same thing as he knew what would occur next. Please it's like you don't even understand the simple story itself and are mincing over wordplay because you don't have a case.
Not knowing your opponent's next move =/= not seeing your opponent's movement. Learn English.Lacking any comprehension of the English language =/= excuse to making crap up.
Again, what led you to believe he was reacting quicker than usual? Quit dodging the question.
Originally posted by h1a8He had the power to know what would happen next and since he took that ability away he only relied on his own reflexes and his awesome power. He gave them a tiny chance.
This is where your logic is messed up. Not seeing the opponents next move has nothing to do with reflexes. One can have greatly enhanced reflexes without future seeing.
Then that would contradict him dodging Surfer wouldn't it. Or did he actually purposely dodge Surfer?You overestimate Thanos greatly, especially when faced with physical might. Superman will rock his world completely and fast.
No, it wouldn't. We saw him dodge the Surfer because that's how quickly he reacted while the rest of the battle was him putting on a show while laughing maniacally at their futile efforts. he was overconfident and only snapped into it when he realized how close he came to losing it all since the Surfer was so close.
Based on what? Please provide examples of him doing so because until you do it's a baseless claim.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, what led you to believe he was reacting quicker than usual? Quit dodging the question.
If a character is supposed to have superhuman reflexes or speed, he must show this on a consistent basis. Not for example when he's practically God and Surfer misses.
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Originally posted by quanchi112Not knowing your opponent's next move =/= not seeing your opponent's movement. ENGLISH, motherf*cker, do you speak it? Example: Flash doesn't know his opponent's next move via telepathy, true precognition or other cosmic senses, but he sure as hell can see his opponent's movement. I am not mincing over words, you're trying to attach one meaning to a wholly different phase. English. Learn English.
It's the same thing as he knew what would occur next. Please it's like you don't even understand the simple story itself and are mincing over wordplay because you don't have a case.Again, what led you to believe he was reacting quicker than usual? Quit dodging the question.
Infinity Gauntlet.
ODG you are using a no limit fallacy this entire time and yet acting is if you're being logical. In some ways you are and I do get your point. I think you brought up a good point about how you and I were arguing for certain things in FC and others were using a argument kinda like the one being said here. The problem though is you're also going to extreme on your side of things. Just because someone has the IG doesn't mean anything and everything he did was because of the IG. We saw him use various gems and various times but not all of them all the time. IT would be like me saying... well the way Thanos walked and talked was because of the IG.. because afterall he had the iG and thus anything is possible. Ummmm no, that is a no limit fallacy. Yes everything he did with the IG COULD be attributed to the IG, but we know that isn't the case and some things were just plain thanos. What those things are were laid and very clearly through artist depiction or literally stated. We saw ZERO ZERO evidence that his reflexes were amped in anyway. None. Just like we saw ZERO evidence that Thanos voice and how he was talking or walking was a result of the IG. Yes it may be hard to determine exactly what was being used at any point. Granted. However, common sense also tells us that anything and everything Thanos did wasn't because of the IG.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiActually, you're trying to accuse me of using a non-sequitur fallacy, i.e., the conclusion that Thanos was amped in that instance does not necessarily follow from the premises or that a logical connection is implied where none exists.
ODG you are using a no limit fallacy this entire time and yet acting is if you're being logical. In some ways you are and I do get your point. I think you brought up a good point about how you and I were arguing for certain things in FC and others were using a argument kinda like the one being said here. The problem though is you're also going to extreme on your side of things. Just because someone has the IG doesn't mean anything and everything he did was because of the IG. We saw him use various gems and various times but not all of them all the time. IT would be like me saying... well the way Thanos walked and talked was because of the IG.. because afterall he had the iG and thus anything is possible. Ummmm no, that is a no limit fallacy. Yes everything he did with the IG COULD be attributed to the IG, but we know that isn't the case and some things were just plain thanos. What those things are were laid and very clearly through artist depiction or literally stated. We saw ZERO ZERO evidence that his reflexes were amped in anyway. None. Just like we saw ZERO evidence that Thanos voice and how he was talking or walking was a result of the IG. Yes it may be hard to determine exactly what was being used at any point. Granted. However, common sense also tells us that anything and everything Thanos did wasn't because of the IG.
Except... there is a logical connection in that Thanos amped himself in different ways, at different times, in reaction to different obstacles. Trying to divorce anything Thanos did in that fight while wearing the Infinity Gauntlet is irresponsible debating. And this is the exact same garbage reasoning we argued against with Darkseid and the ALE. Don't flip-flop.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Actually, you're trying to accuse me of using a non-sequitur fallacy, i.e., the conclusion that Thanos was amped in that instance does not necessarily follow from the premises or that a logical connection is implied where none exists.Except... there is a logical connection in that Thanos amped himself in different ways, at different times, in reaction to different obstacles. Trying to divorce anything Thanos did in that fight while wearing the Infinity Gauntlet is irresponsible debating. And this is the exact same garbage reasoning we argued against with Darkseid and the ALE. Don't flip-flop.
I am going to hate to say this but I agree with this statement.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Actually, you're trying to accuse me of using a non-sequitur fallacy, i.e., the conclusion that Thanos was amped in that instance does not necessarily follow from the premises or that a logical connection is implied where none exists.Except... there is a logical connection in that Thanos amped himself in different ways, at different times, in reaction to different obstacles. Trying to divorce anything Thanos did in that fight while wearing the Infinity Gauntlet is irresponsible debating. And this is the exact same garbage reasoning we argued against with Darkseid and the ALE. Don't flip-flop.
So it's your assessment that EVERYTHING.. the feats Thanos accomplished.. all the way down to the way he walked and talked were because of the IG. Is that your stance?