^ Oh please. This is what you were trying to do this entire time? lulz
Think about how stupidly literal your taking this. Let me demonstrate: Thanos at one point, grew very large. Accordingly, his eyes grew bigger. He could therefore see more. But since that involves an enhancement of perception, that goes directly against Thanos cutting off any sensory input from the Gems. Therefore... he never grew big. It never happened.
Seriously... ENGLISH mothaf*cker. Do you speak it?
Originally posted by King KandyThanos couldn't see the future, that's all. He didn't know the opponents next move BEFORE it happened. He still has the more speed, which increases hand movement and synaptic response speed in the brain, etc.
If increasing his speed increased his ability to sense, then it didn't happen because it wouldn't agree with his earlier statement.
Plus the scan could be interpreted as SS merely missing instead (as the scan stated explicitly). Notice how Thanos hand was already moving forward the whole time.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos couldn't see the future, that's all. He didn't know the opponents next move BEFORE it happened. He still has the more speed, which increases hand movement and synaptic response speed in the brain, etc.Plus the scan could be interpreted as SS merely missing instead (as the scan stated explicitly). Notice how Thanos hand was already moving forward the whole time.
Dur, I never said that Thanos dodged it, what I said was that he saw SS which proves he was fast enough to react.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Oh please. This is what you were trying to do this entire time? lulzThink about how stupidly literal your taking this. Let me demonstrate: Thanos at one point, grew very large. Accordingly, his eyes grew bigger. He could therefore see more. But since that involves an enhancement of perception, that goes directly against Thanos cutting off any sensory input from the Gems. Therefore... he never grew big. It never happened.
Seriously... ENGLISH mothaf*cker. Do you speak it?
We know his speed was not amped, because his relative speed to the other characters was the same as it had ever been.
^ The point was to avoid having extra sensory input that would be afforded through the use of his Gems, i.e., seeing the future, telepathy, sensing spatial disturbances, etc. Clearly, the writer's intention is that Thanos would not know his enemies' next move. Flash doesn't know his enemies' next move because he doesn't see the future, or have telepathy or senses spatial distrubances. But he can sure as hell react superfast.
We also know he amped himself in different ways, in different times, in reaction to different obstacles. He wasn't gigantic the entire time. He didn't blow people up everytime they touched him. He didn't punch people with enough force to shatter Cap's shield everytime. Why would he have to be superfast all the time?
Divorcing what he did in that fight from the IG is irresponsible. Stick to feats where he doesn't have an object that imbues him with omnipotence.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i regret bringing that up guys, didn't know it would go this bloody far. 😄anyway, thanos wtfsnuffing fallen one is apt enough, plus thanos has more distance between him and superman to....umm raise his arm.. 😐
This is why I give Thanos the 6-7/10 majority, he only has to expend the energy to raise his energy shield/block ala the Fallen One incident. Although Supes wouldn't telegraph his speedblitz tbh.
Originally posted by Allanklesand how prey tell does he go about doing that? not being sarcastic (well, i kinda am) but i just want to know 😛
This is why I give Thanos the 6-7/10 majority, he only has to expend the energy to raise his energy shield/block ala the Fallen One incident. Although Supes wouldn't telegraph his speedblitz tbh.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ The point was to avoid having extra sensory input that would be afforded through the use of his Gems, i.e., seeing the future, telepathy, sensing spatial disturbances, etc. Clearly, the writer's intention is that Thanos would not know his enemies' next move. Flash doesn't know his enemies' next move because he doesn't see the future, or have telepathy or senses spatial distrubances. But he can sure as hell react superfast.We also know he amped himself in different ways, in different times, in reaction to different obstacles. He wasn't gigantic the entire time. He didn't blow people up everytime they touched him. He didn't punch people with enough force to shatter Cap's shield everytime. Why would he have to be superfast all the time?
Divorcing what he did in that fight from the IG is irresponsible. Stick to feats where he doesn't have an object that imbues him with omnipotence.
He's shown the exact same speed blocking abilities elsewhere, why you feel this was an extraordinary instance is beyond me. If he demonstrates an ability without the IG, then does it with the IG, does this somehow invalidate his ability to do so? Of course not, that is a ridiculous notion. If he showed the power to grow giant without the IG and used it all the time, then why would we assume his growing giant was a product of the IG? There is no logic to that assumption.
Originally posted by King KandyOr Surfer just missed. Or Thanos amped himself momentarily in that way, the same way he amped himself momentarily to grow against Hulk. The same way he amped himself momentarily to make people explode when they touched him. The same way he amped his punches momentarily to shatter Cap's shield.
I've got to say, this argument really baffles me. How can you claim that him not being shown to be speed-amped is evidence he wasn't doing it those times... but then highlight another time where he was also not stated to be speed amped, and claim in that instance he had the higher level of speed? If he was trying to increase his speed to counter Surfer like you proposed, he would have needed to know what surfer was going to do, which he obviously didn't.
Originally posted by King KandySilver Surfer's linear speed is nearly unmatched in that scan. You like all those other feats outside of Infinity Gauntlet? Great. Use em. Trying to pull a feat from a fight where he has the Infinity Gauntlet is unnecessary.
He's shown the exact same speed blocking abilities elsewhere, why you feel this was an extraordinary instance is beyond me. If he demonstrates an ability without the IG, then does it with the IG, does this somehow invalidate his ability to do so? Of course not, that is a ridiculous notion. If he showed the power to grow giant without the IG and used it all the time, then why would we assume his growing giant was a product of the IG? There is no logic to that assumption.
Originally posted by King KandyI never did such a thing. The thread was always amped Superman vs. X when i did that.
lol, you should be the last one to talk as you have tried to justify using amped superman feats to support regular superman.Dur, I never said that Thanos dodged it, what I said was that he saw SS which proves he was fast enough to react.
Anyways, Thanos didn't necessarily see SS. To see means not only the image is reflected off your eye but u perceive it as well (processed it in the brain already). Even if Thanos did see SS it was both an amped Thanos with SS being far away. For example, you wouldn't have no more than human reflexes if you were moving at the Sun at FTL speeds provided u will reach it in .5 second thus having time to avoid it.
Reflexes isn't about how fast something is moving But how fast something is moving in relation to the distance it moved. Thanos seeing SS is attribute to being able to see far away and not so much with reflexes. If u travel towards the Sun at light speed u would see the Sun for a long time (8 minutes) before u crash into it.
Originally posted by King KandySo you think Hal Jordan GL can create a giant construct with his ring that can go mano-e-mano with the Spectre, like he did in Zero Hour?
I've got to say, this argument really baffles me. How can you claim that him not being shown to be speed-amped is evidence he wasn't doing it those times... but then highlight another time where he was also not stated to be speed amped, and claim in that instance he had the higher level of speed? If he was trying to increase his speed to counter Surfer like you proposed, he would have needed to know what surfer was going to do, which he obviously didn't.He's shown the exact same speed blocking abilities elsewhere, why you feel this was an extraordinary instance is beyond me. If he demonstrates an ability without the IG, then does it with the IG, does this somehow invalidate his ability to do so? Of course not, that is a ridiculous notion. If he showed the power to grow giant without the IG and used it all the time, then why would we assume his growing giant was a product of the IG? There is no logic to that assumption.
Originally posted by JuntaiNo, because his power levels were obviously much higher as were Thanos'. Thanos still retained infinite power but he turned off the ability to see his opponents next moves meaning he fought under his own reflexes. The comic literally states this and people assume the opposite which means they simply don't want to acknowledge the feat. That's pretty much what it boils down to in my eyes.
So you think Hal Jordan GL can create a giant construct with his ring that can go mano-e-mano with the Spectre, like he did in Zero Hour?
I mean, making constructs is something he always does, completely ignoring his nigh-omnipotence in the arc.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Here comes the typical routine where you insult the other poster. You do it all the time when backed into a corner. The comic bends over backwards to explain Thanos is giving them a chance and toning down his abilities to see their moves/movements before they occur meaning he is using his own reflexes with infinite power to combat them to impress death.
^ Increasing speed =/= increasing ability to sense. Flash running faster =/= heightening his cosmic senses. Not knowing your opponent's next move =/= not seeing your opponent's movement. Learn English.I think you're straw-manning me desperately because you know that your equivocation over words holds little credence. Nobody says he increased his senses.
And just because you wish I say things that are easier to argue against doesn't make them true. Your ship be sinking.
Nothing you speculate about is implied. It's actually common sense when reading the issue and seeing how he fought the heroes you can tell his reflexes aren't amped at all.
To suggest they were pretty much assumes he's got zombie like reflexes since you consider these ones incapable of by normal Thanos.
Originally posted by AllanklesEven if Superman lands the first or 2nd blow it isn't doing squat to Thanos. I fail to see how you give Superman a single win considering what Thanos has stood up to and considering it's well beyond Superman's power or strength to achieve.
This is why I give Thanos the 6-7/10 majority, he only has to expend the energy to raise his energy shield/block ala the Fallen One incident. Although Supes wouldn't telegraph his speedblitz tbh.
Originally posted by ruber_fistThis isn't a comic book and you describe any top notch hero. It's Thanos' job to be above heroes and for groups to form to combat him. On kmc or any other board the hero can be killed. Thanos wins.
superman shitstomps its his job to beat guys like thanos