Originally posted by psycho gundamI have to prove the Infinity Gauntlet can amp speed? lulz Thanos didn't even see Surfer coming until the moment he missed.
still waiting to hear how the ig (on reduced power/effectiveness and without foresight) amps reflexes.thanos saw surfer coming cause the distraction warlock put together and the timing he told surfer to proceed at failed. cap is a go to guy but warlock should have told surfer to go when thanos was more occupied.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiSo his natural reflexes were spiked noticeably at that moment although they didn't appear to be sufficient when fighting countless people 😱 😄
or his reflexes weren't amped then just as they didn't appear to be when fighting countless people
The argument is: Thanos couldn't have IG-amped himself at that moment because he wasn't superspeed reacting throughout the entire fight. . . but somehow he demonstrated a spike in superspeed reaction naturally even though he wasn't naturally superspeed reacting throughout the entire fight.
This is called trying to have your cake and eat it too. 🙄
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or Surfer just missed. Or Thanos amped himself momentarily in that way, the same way he amped himself momentarily to grow against Hulk. The same way he amped himself momentarily to make people explode when they touched him. The same way he amped his punches momentarily to shatter Cap's shield. Silver Surfer's linear speed is nearly unmatched in that scan.
Also, this whole conversation went way downhill once I dropped out of it. 😛
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You do have to consider that Runner used the Space Gem to amp without consciously thinking about it.
If you hold to the view that Thanos amped his speed during the Surfer feat, then the inevitable question for me is, when?
And if you hold to the view that Surfer just simply missed him...well then. No comment.
^ If that's what your grasping upon, then you do have to consider that other Infinity Gems have been used without thinking either. Power Gem, for instance.
The obvious view is that Surfer did just simply miss him. But you see Thanos react to the miss before Surfer is long gone. Which apparently every Thanos fan goes gaga for: uber Silver Surfer phail = uber Thanos non-feat (despite having IG).
Originally posted by OneDumbG0put the one that happens before that please, and lol at playing up the subtlety of those movement lines.
^ This scan? The one where the movement lines illustrate that Thanos actually lifts his head up and around to see Surfer as he flies by, rather than lowering his head down to duck? Yes, I've read Infinity Gauntlet before:Uber Surfer-phail =/= Uber Thanos-feat (especially with IG)
^ I don't see Captain America ramping up for a punch either. Guess he's got FTL reflexes too...
... or there's a gap between that page and the next. Bottom-line is, the movement lines clearly show he turns his head up and around to see him go by, not lowering his head down to duck.
Seriously, don't try this hard. He's wearing the Infinity Gauntlet. Effort's wasted.
i just re-read my hard copy here, the page before the one i requested was what i wanted. thanos is indeed standing straight up and staring down on captain america, then notices the surfer.
cap punched him on the next page in the second panel, and his arms were down... why the hell am i explaining this. post all of it since you have access to the scans lol
start from the point where cap walks over to thanos all badass.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i just re-read my hard copy here, the page before the one i requested was what i wanted. thanos is indeed standing straight up and staring down on captain america, then notices the surfer.cap punched him on the next page in the second panel, and his arms were down... why the hell am i explaining this. post all of it since you have access to the scans lol
start from the point where cap walks over to thanos all badass.
I don't know what you're referring to. Here are all three pages set side by side. In the first page, Thanos is standing straight up with his left fist raised and his right arm down and Captain America is standing shoulders squared, both arms down. This continues into the second page, as it appears plainly that neither is moving and everything is happening in an instant. By the third page, Thanos' left hand opens up, his head lifts up and turns to see Surfer whizz by and Cap has cocked his left fist back for a cross.
Whatever you thought happened via FTL natural superspeed reflexes in a nanosecond between pages two and three because of Thanos' slightly adjusted body posture kinda ignores that Cap himself changed his body posture in that same time frame also. We don't grant Cap FTL superspeed reflexes.
Thanos' head moves up and turns to see Surfer whizz by as he misses. There isn't that much more to it. Why am I explaining this all to you?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0exactly, cap moved similarly if not more so than thanos did. there goes that speed amp theory.
[URL=http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/More%20Random/?action=view¤t=InfinityGauntlet16.jpg][IMG] Thanos' slightly adjusted body posture kinda ignores that Cap himself changed his body posture in that same time frame also. We don't grant Cap FTL superspeed reflexes.
my original point of bringing it up was that thanos saw surfer, so an incoming superman at a far slower speed..... easy.
(that was a segway back to the thanos vs superman theme also)
^ Actually, that would blow your natural FTL superspeed refelex theory also.
Uhhhh, I never said Thanos amped before Surfer missed. He clearly didn't know he was coming. Any amp's time frame comes after Surfer misses (as does any notion of superspeed reflexes). And just to preclude the next tenuous point I'm sure will be brought up: no Cap aint moving in the first panel of the third page, only Surfer and Thanos as evinced by the movement lines (and lack of ones for Cap).
