Thanos vs Superman

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're backwards. Thanos deactivated them because they were too dangerous and powerful. He only realized that after the clone that Thor fought and the Celestial Quest one.

Those Infinity Abyss clones were already more powerful than Thanos. So your progressive logic fails. Details below. Key phrase: "Four of the most powerful."

Not: "The four most powerful." The actual statement is not exclusive, just descriptive. You could have been able to build on your progressive ABC thinking to infer that the one that Thor fought was weaker, if they were indeed, the absolute four most powerful. But they were not. So you can't. Let's stop butchering English.The newer clones were "only maybe = to Thanos?" How about three of the models rivaled Thanos' power:

And that Warrior, the Thanosi that was spliced with Gladiator's DNA, was actually five times more powerful than the original Thanos:

Even moreso, Omega actually far outclassed Thanos. So what do we have? Two clones who are outright more powerful than Thanos, Omega and Warrior. Two others who rivaled Thanos' power, X and Mystic. These four were among the most powerful ones, but not necessarily the four most powerful. The one that Thor fought was only described as a "higher powered" one. Thanos doesn't really describe the Celestial Quest one.

I'm not suggesting that the Thanosi which Thor fought was the most powerful. But trying to act like all his clones were far inferior power-wise and could never match the original Thanos is attenuation. And in two instances, outright wrong.

It’s a progress step so this means his older clones were weaker which was my point was to begin with.

lol at you using Warlock's statement claim to say Gladiator's DNA clone was 5 times more powerful and not realizing that is just false or a statement to dramatize his strength. Stange was easily disposing the other Thanos clone who was suppose to equal = real Thanos as well. And Warlock one shot this clone with his soul soul gem so much for = Thanos in power. In fact all the Clones were disposed rather easily.

Gladiator Clone was one shoted by Soul Gem
Strange easily Handled Mage clone

These clone were suppose to be = Thanos as stated by Thanos

The clones were defeated by top tier "easily".

Your using Omega to claim thanos clone in the past might have been been more powerful than Thanos? Lol funny Omega was never meant to be used by Thanos... Soo that point.

So again......... Thanos started using clones weak ones at first... then stronger ones til they were getting strong enough so he stooped using it. Last ones were the one that fought the Avengers.

So it's a safe bet that all the past clones were at least weaker than him since the newest clone were not even as powerful as he was.

Let see how the Thanos clone did shall we. They were impressive no doubt but were far from the real deal.

let see why.

Warlock one shots this clone possible the most powerful other than Omega.

Strange easily beats this clone

Moondragon makes this clone suicide.

Yep these clone were indeed more powerful than Thanos. 😂

^ You tell me the last time Warlock's dreaded Soul-Steal has ever failed. Or you admit where you either: (i) have no idea what the Soul-Steal is, or (ii) were just trying to misdirect attention from the fact that Warrior was five times more powerful than the original Thanosi.

And point to where I said that X and Mystic were more powerful than Thanos. If you can't, that's a poor attempt at a straw-man even by normal quandards.

Originally posted by kgkg
It's a progress step so this means his older clones were weaker which was my point was to begin with.

lol at you using Warlock's statement claim to say Gladiator's DNA clone was 5 times more powerful and not realizing that is just false or a statement to dramatize his strength. Stange was easily disposing the other Thanos clone who was suppose to equal = real Thanos as well. And Warlock one shot this clone with his soul soul gem so much for = Thanos in power. In fact all the Clones were disposed rather easily.

Sorry if your arbitrary dismissal of Warlock matter-of-fact statement doesn't convince me. His statement actually disproving your entire "progressive" theory doesn't render its veracity in question. You want to characterize his statement as over-dramatization, that's fine. I'll just characterize your statement as utter denial.

Some of those clones rivaled his power. Some of those clones were more powerful than Thanos. The only ones described as weaker were the Ka-Zar one and Armor. Your assumption that every single clone was weaker is not only wrong, it's wishful thinking. And wishful thinkng on its own is fine. Just don't try to justify it with "Nuh uh" denials.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Oh, ok so....I guess SS is below Supes and Thor then?

physically yes.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well that's obvious. Just look at his feats when he goes all out. How can you deny he isn't a cosmic entity? You need to stop being such a Thor hater.

If you look at his feats he people like thanos pimp slap thor easily.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Because he isn't.

If you look at his feats he people like thanos pimp slap thor easily.

Lies.

Scans or concede to being a dishonest liar.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lies.

Scans or concede to being a dishonest liar.

Plus I leave my house in 10 min.

I might try later if you remind me.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You tell me the last time Warlock's dreaded Soul-Steal has ever failed. Or you admit where you either: [b](i) have no idea what the Soul-Steal is, or (ii) were just trying to misdirect attention from the fact that Warrior was five times more powerful than the original Thanosi.
[/B]

I believe the gem couldn't stop WM thor .......

People have already resisted the soul steal by the gem example from the Gem itself.. Magus , Surfer here just an example.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5941/silversurfer198800821esvf7.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7686/silversurfer198800822eslx8.jpg

Surfer has resisted a soul steal from the gem.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3440/silversurfer198801619soxn0.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8549/silversurfer198801620sohi5.jpg

Adam is not all powerful and neither is the soul gem... It took Adam years to subdue the Man Beast with the GEM.....

I'm nit picking lines like you were doing with the Gladiator clone.

It was stated by Thanos himself that these three clone can "Rival his power" the point of me showing how these clone got owned is to show that they were just stated to be as powerful as him but in actuality they were defeated quite easily.

All three of them. All of them hyped to be SUPER THANOS CLONE IN ALL THEIR APPEARANCE TILL THEY ACTUALLY Fight and all easily disposed.

Remember that Thanos made and trained these clone

It's not a progress step because you have absolutely no evidence to suggest that the "higher powered model" Thanosi that Thor fought was much weaker than the ones that appeared in Infinity Abyss. Thanos didn't shut down his cloning attempts because of those four. He shut it down because of the Thor Thanosi and the Celestial Quest Thanosi.

Because even out of the clones that remained after Avenger fight those 3 in IB were suppose to be the best remaining clones.

We know that Thanos has sent many clones for different purpose.... He only stooped when they were powerful.

Really is it not that hard to understand that if the old clones were as powerful as he was he would have stooped.... Which he did .... This was the reason why those 3 clones were not activated.

Since we know that the 3 clones were at best = to Thanos and I have shown which was not the case........ This lead the older clones to be weaker version... very simple really.

You want to characterize his statement as over-dramatization, that's fine. I'll just characterize your statement as utter denial.

Anyway your claim that there is no prof that older clones are weaker is false. Since even at best the Close before IA were at best = Thanos.

One thing thats been bugging me... Everyone is always pointing out Thanos being super high end which I won't bother denying but his most impressive stuff comes from him manipulating items like the infinity gauntlet or heart of the universe. Getting to a position to obtain the items was nothing of little skill but Thanos progression in power IMO has more to do with what cosmic items he has on hand to smack down everyone else. I think baseline Thanos isn't really more than twice as powerful as his brother. I mean his brother is still pretty OP and doubling it limits that which can challenge him but I still think he would be manageable at baseline for a high end silver age superman to take on.

^ so in essence you didn't do any research

Originally posted by kgkg
I can't think of many incident were the soul-steal was attempted by Warlock. But even the gem itself has been resisted few times.

I believe the gem couldn't stop WM thor ....... People have already resisted the soul steal by the gem example from the Gem itself.. Magus , Surfer here just an example.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5941/silversurfer198800821esvf7.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7686/silversurfer198800822eslx8.jpg

Surfer has resisted a soul steal from the gem.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3440/silversurfer198801619soxn0.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8549/silversurfer198801620sohi5.jpg

Adam is not all powerful and neither is the soul gem... It took Adam years to subdue the Man Beast with the GEM.....
http://img29.imageshack.us/i/yearq.jpg/

Originally posted by kgkg
I'm nit picking lines like you were doing with the Gladiator clone.

It was stated by Thanos himself that these three clone can "Rival his power" the point of me showing how these clone got owned is to show that they were just stated to be as powerful as him but in actuality they were defeated quite easily.

All three of them. All of them hyped to be SUPER THANOS CLONE IN ALL THEIR APPEARANCE TILL THEY ACTUALLY Fight and all easily disposed.

Remember that Thanos made and trained these clone

Originally posted by kgkg
It doesn't even have to be much weaker.... We know for a fact that that the Higher powered model was not more powerful than the ones in Infinity Abyss at best they were at the same level as the three clones.

Because even out of the clones that remained after Avenger fight those 3 in IB were suppose to be the best remaining clones.
http://img186.imageshack.us/i/thanos2.jpg/

No speaky, English? "Four of the most powerful" =/= "the four most powerful." Learn to f@cking read.

Originally posted by kgkg
We know that Thanos has sent many clones for different purpose.... He only stooped when they were powerful.

Really is it not that hard to understand that if the old clones were as powerful as he was he would have stooped.... Which he did .... This was the reason why those 3 clones were not activated.

Since we know that the 3 clones were at best = to Thanos and I have shown which was not the case........ This lead the older clones to be weaker version... very simple really.

Yeah. He stopped because of the Thor and Celestial Quest clones.

We know that Warrior was four-five times more powerful than the original. We know that Omega was vastly more powerful than Thanos. We know that your desperate attempt to conflate X and Mystic with Warrior, to undermine Warrior's power has been exposed. Also good job reading "four of the most powerful" as being "the four most powerful." If English were a person, he'd cry and/or b1tch-slap you.

Originally posted by kgkg
Good Job nit picking.... When it was stated by Thanos himself that all three could rival his power. Which turned out to be false and you will stand by a statement that Gladiator Clone was 5 times more powerful than Thanos and was one shooted by Warlock. lol

Anyway your claim that there is no prof that older clones are weaker is false. Since even at best the Close before IA were at best = Thanos.

Yeah. At best, equal to Thanos based on your thinking that since none of the Infinity Abyss clones were more powerful than Thanos, the Thor-Thanosi could never match or exceed Thanos. Except that two of them were more powerful than the original Thanos. One of which, being Warrior:

The direct, obviousness of the comic and the inability to inject any ambiguity doesn't make what's plainly portrayed in the comic somehow less direct, obvious, unambiguous or plain. You either forgot that some of the Thanosi actually exceeded Thanos, and that there is absolutely no evidence that the ones before must be weaker than them or Thanos... or you no speaky English.

^ playing devil's advocate here

power is a synonym for physical strength also, and the context of the situation kinda leads one to believe he meant strength.

all warlock did was try and choke the dude and got over "power"d

his overall power is not indicative of the confrontation they had however

^ It's not indicative that Warrior was far inferior to Thanos either. And more importantly, it's not indicative that all of Thanos' clones were even more inferior.

Fact is, you can make a better argument (whatever it is) that Warrior was more powerful than you can make the opposite argument that he was inferior, and therefore, all other clones were even more inferior.

And that's the point.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's not indicative that Warrior was far inferior to Thanos either. And more importantly, it's not indicative that all of Thanos' clones were even more inferior.

Fact is, you can make a better argument (whatever it is) that Warrior was more powerful than you can make the opposite argument that he was inferior, and therefore, all other clones were even more inferior.

And that's the point.

anyway...

Last post on this thread.

Thanos's Opinion > Warlock

"Three Rival my own power" = Gladiator clone being 5 times more powerful. lol

"I trained each of them" but nooo lets take hyperbole as a fact.

Thanks for playing.

Originally posted by kgkg
anyway...

Last post on this thread.

Thanos's Opinion > Warlock

"Three Rival my own power" = Gladiator clone being 5 times more powerful. lol

"I trained each of them" but nooo lets take hyperbole as a fact.

Thanks for playing.

"I trained each of them" = "Each of them cannot possibly match/surpass my power"??? No. Just... no. This is English. English, motherf@cker, do you speak it?

sam

You can take your butchered English. I'm going to take this from the comic and read plain English. Since it directly disproves your overgeneralized blanket assertion that all of Thanos' clones were weaker:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
"Three rival my own power" = "Gladiator cannot match or possibly be five times more powerful"??? When rivaling denotes competing for the equaling or surpassing of one another? Yet another example of plain English being butchered.

"I trained each of them" = "they cannot possibly match/surpass my power"??? No. Just... no. This is English. English, motherf@cker, do you speak it?

sam

You can take your butchered English. I'm going to take this:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
"Three rival my own power" = "Gladiator cannot match or possibly be five times more powerful"??? When rivaling denotes competing for the equaling or surpassing of one another? Yet another example of plain English being butchered.

"I trained each of them" = "Each of them cannot possibly match/surpass my power"??? No. Just... no. This is English. English, motherf@cker, do you speak it?

sam

You can take your butchered English. I'm going to take this from the comic and read plain English. Since it directly disproves your overgeneralized blanket assertion that all of Thanos' clones were weaker:

Question was has warlock strength EVER been comparable to Thanos's? It hasn't right.. thus how is this proof of anything?

Lastly... even if true that is only talking about strength unless of course you believe that clone was more powerful than Thanos which it clearly isn't. Stronger.. I don't even believe as Thanos in my mind is stronger than Glads.. So how would this clone be 5 times stronger? Ooo wait.. it was genetic engineering.. Therefore why isn't it possible he enhanced the clones strength using other means sans Gladiators strength which by itself isn't stronger than Thanos. Wait... do you believe Glads is stronger than Thanos?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Question was has warlock strength EVER been comparable to Thanos's? It hasn't right.. thus how is this proof of anything?

Lastly... even if true that is only talking about strength unless of course you believe that clone was more powerful than Thanos which it clearly isn't. Stronger.. I don't even believe as Thanos in my mind is stronger than Glads.. So how would this clone be 5 times stronger? Ooo wait.. it was genetic engineering.. Therefore why isn't it possible he enhanced the clones strength using other means sans Gladiators strength which by itself isn't stronger than Thanos. Wait... do you believe Glads is stronger than Thanos?

I have no idea what you just typed in that paragraph.