Originally posted by King Kandy
Hold on... Phoenix is over THOTU now...hystericalhystericalhysterical
No one said that, because THOTU is beyond Phoenix.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Why don't you give me scans or point me to the issues. She beat weak Galactus. Your normal Galactus is still far below Eternity. LOL. Destroying a Celestial hand means what? The Destroyer has done that already.
True, but he still realized that Phoenix power source is greater then his own, so he knew Phoenix>Galactus and it doesn't matter in what state Galactus is.
He realizes that Phoenix potential goes beyond his.
Originally posted by Xplosive
True, but he still realized that Phoenix power source is greater then his own, so he knew Phoenix>Galactus and it doesn't matter in what state Galactus is.
LOL. Beyond his role? Guess what happens when Galactus dies? Abraxas! Guess what happens when Death doesn't exist? What happens when Eternity, Chaos, or Order doesn't exist? Galactus could've sucked that bird dry.
He realizes that Phoenix potential goes beyond his.
What potential? He realized it plays a role in the universe like all others and thus let it live.
Originally posted by id369
Your opinions =/= fact.
Besides their can be any number of Nigh Omnipotent, but only one true Omnipotent.
Your contradicting yourself. Earlier you said.
id369Do you know what a reliable source means?
That’s the official marvel website.
Then show us where in the bio does it say the PF created the universe, Eternity, Galactus, Death, etc. Proof please. I see your digging up Galactus' bio, why not put Infinity, Death, and Eternity's. I'll bet you Phoenix isn't so much as mentioned being related to any of them.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
LOL. Beyond his role? Guess what happens when Galactus dies? Abraxas! Guess what happens when Death doesn't exist? What happens when Eternity, Chaos, or Order doesn't exist? Galactus could've sucked that bird dry.
WTF. Galactus could dry him, when Phoenix allowed it, but was defeated before it easily. But I doubt Phoenix would die since it's completely indestructible force (and WTF, Galactus has no high feats as what he should represent and is that why Galactus was scared of Dark Phoenix and now to make clear about FP Galactus, it was said he is Eternity equal then and everyone is using that, but hey, we never saw FP Galactus, we don't know what he could do, never on pannel, so this forum shoud lstop using term FP Galactus, hej, Watcher said Phoenix is only second to the creator, while he knew about Galactus existence, right), it can never die, Galactus can, Eternity can, Eternity can even get sick, PF came to heal him.
And what happened when Galactus tried to absorb Phoenix, Universe began dying.
Phoenix died more then once, came back easily when it choses, always ressurected itself, while Galactus died and Richardsl had to come to resurrect him.
Galactus was defeated by Rachel (and it was normal Galactus,defeated extremely easily) and then said that Pheonix dry power from near-limitless source and doens't share Galactus problem.
It wasn't about role, but about greater power.
Originally posted by Xplosive
No one said that, because THOTU is beyond Phoenix.
Actually, someone did say that.
Originally posted by id369
For all I care Eternity can have the UN, HOTU, and the power of all the cosmic within the 616 reality….and It still would not do a single thing to PoTWC, while Phoenix of the White Crown remains in the Hot Room, controlling the 616 reality in the palm of her hand.
Originally posted by Lord S
What are you saying...LT is not no. 2? Even though he's been firmly implanted in that role for decades? This is not any sort of opinion...it's established fact.
Please make an effort to read what I posted.
I never stated that LT =/= #2.
I did state that their can be more then 1 Nigh Omnipotent being.
@WhiteWitchKing, I don’t see how I am contradicting myself. If you are so reluctant to prove Eternity>PF why don’t post anything with a certain level of reliability that pertains to the subject at hand.
Know, my question still remains. What can Eternity do to PotWC while she is in the White Hot Room?
Originally posted by id369No you said that my opinion (of LT being 2nd to the Creator) =/= Fact...nevermind the fact that's it's not an opinion, it's a solid fact.
Please make an effort to read what I posted.
I never stated that LT =/= #2.
Maybe making an effort to re-read your own post would do wonders for you.
I did state that their can be more then 1 Nigh Omnipotent being.Which is probably true...but the Phoenix ain't one of them. The fact that it can take a simple Shi'ar weapon to take her down is clear evidence...while nothing short of the HOTU bests an M-Body of LT.
Originally posted by Lord S
No you said that my opinion (of LT being 2nd to the Creator) =/= Fact...nevermind the fact that's it's not an opinion, it's a solid fact.Maybe making an effort to re-read your own post would do wonders for you.
Which is probably true...but the Phoenix ain't one of them. The fact that it can take a simple Shi'ar weapon to take her down is clear evidence...while nothing short of the HOTU bests an M-Body of LT.
ok seriously, re-read my post.
and........WHEN, have I ever stated that Phoenix was Omnipotent?
Originally posted by id369What can Phoenix do to Eternity?
Know, my question still remains. What can Eternity do to PotWC while she is in the White Hot Room?
Phoenix has never been shown destroying anything close to an entire Universe, and she has been taken down by simple shi'ar weaponry.
To hype Phoenix up to where she is now more powerful then the embodiment of everyone/thing in a universe is rediculous.
Originally posted by id369
ok seriously, re-read my post.and........WHEN, have I ever stated that Phoenix was Omnipotent?
White Phoenix is just a part of his universe in other words just a part of him. He could easiley aborb her.
Just like Thanos did with God's power to the Living Tribunal, since the Living Tribunal is nothing but a part of God. -- You could say he put himself together.
But the Phoenix Force is Multiversal, as the Primal Force (Host of the Phoenix's) -- So the combinded force might be able to close that universe down.
omnipotent
adjective FORMAL
having unlimited power; able to do anything:
How can a loving, omnipotent God permit disease, war and suffering?
Source
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=55307&dict=CALD
From the definition above, I doubt Eternity is Omnipotent if he has to have The Living Tribunal Permission.
I believe there is an omnipotent being in the marvel comics.
TOAA, The Creator, The Writer Itself what ever you want to call it or how he has presented himself; I think they refer to the same person.
Originally posted by id369
omnipotent
adjective FORMAL
having unlimited power; able to do anything:
How can a loving, omnipotent God permit disease, war and suffering?Source
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=55307&dict=CALDFrom the definition above, I doubt Eternity is Omnipotent if he has to have The Living Tribunal Permission.
I believe there is an omnipotent being in the marvel comics.
TOAA, The Creator, The Writer Itself what ever you want to call it or how he has presented himself; I think they refer to the same person.
You're trying to apply a real-world definition to a comic book. Omnipotence in comics doesn't mean the same thing as omnipotence in real life. The Living Tribunal has called Warlock with the IG and Eternity omnipotent or all powerful. I believe it was the Shaper of Worlds who said there are levels of omnipotence when referring the cubes' powers to the Celestials.
Originally posted by id369What is there to re-read? You vaguely stated that my opinion does not equal fact...when what I was talking about was in fact, fact.
ok seriously, re-read my post.
and........WHEN, have I ever stated that Phoenix was Omnipotent?Never...and when did I ever state that you stated that? The fact is a lot of Phoenix fanboys do believe that...ie. LordKaos, who has fallen in love with GS' exit hole in the process.