Sith'ari Speculation

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I have no assurance you didn't just edit that article to suit your point.

1. Check the edit history.

2. The guy with the Zelda sig brought the same point up.

2. What? Bane REJECTED the title and headed off to Lehon in order to study Revan's holocron.

1. When he came back, they all treated him like a Dark Lord (listened to him, respected him, referred to him as Lord...), the fact that he wasn't at the ceremony means little.

2. You have to remember that bane was the only one who claimed the Darth title for himself.

He led nothing.

1. Technically, all the DLs led the sith in some way or another in battle, 'leading the sith' doesn't necessarily mean that you would have to be the leader.

2. This was a brotherhood where all were equal...

3. You forget that Bane basically made Kaan his puppet; he convinced him to use the thought bomb and was playing him like a b1tch.

He never commanded the Sith....and ignore Kaan's orders and wishes? Sure, that's great...this means he's a renegade, not a leader

That wasn't my actual point, I wasn't too clear, my bad, Rex explained it perfectly in his post - "on Ruusan where Kaan conceded to Bane's plan and all the Sith unified to perform that massive shockwave".

3. And again: Bane led as much as Palpatine did. Again: The Sith Apprentice is still A Dark Lord of the Sith. Bane made sure there were only two....face it, Palpatine's a contender

He was still the apprentice, it's not like the old system where everyone was equal, there were two sith; the leader, and the lackey. Palpatine just happened to be the lackey at this point in time.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Well, there's Antares and Ganner, who's the third?

Can't remember, but there's three for sure; the guy who was in love with Sia, the woman, and the guy with the ponytail.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Well, there's Antares and Ganner, who's the third?

Sigel Dare, the female Imperial Knight.

Originally posted by The Sith'ari
1. Check the edit history.

2. The guy with the Zelda sig brought the same point up.

That wasn't my actual point, I wasn't too clear, my bad, Rex explained it perfectly in his post - "on Ruusan where Kaan conceded to Bane's plan and all the Sith unified to perform that massive shockwave".

He was still the apprentice, it's not like the old system where everyone was equal, there were two sith; the leader, and the lackey. Palpatine just happened to be the lackey at this point in time.

QED

so if they didn't have to lead the Sith before destroying them, then why couldn't it be Vader?

Vader did make the sith invincible, remember palpatine who came back from the dead more powerful than ever? for a time he was invincible

Technically speaking, the sith died at Endor, De Sidious was nothing more than a clone, a copy, so Vader doesn't quite apply.

He did, because the sith came back from the dead, and was invincible for a time.

And Sidous wasnt just a simple "clone" His spirit possesed the clone and that is enough to verifiy it is the actual sidious

According to Lucas and Lumiya, the sith died at endor. DE Sidious was a clown and hadn't actually worked to become a real sith. Everyone after was a pretender.

GL confirmed that the sith died at Endor, and an explanation was already given: DE Sidious was nothing more than a copy.

Isnt DE sidious actually the sidious we see the movies? Why would he be a clown? He never declared any other people a sith, Not even luke was considered a sith lord, he was stll following the rule of two, he wanted luke to join him And didnt DESB state he was a sith lord? The quote does apply "The most powerful sith lord had returned" or something lke that, LS gave me the quote

And the EU confirmed DE Sidious was he real Palpatine. Hence the EU being alternate

You're missing the point Kadesh, the sith died at Endor. DE Sidious is just a clone, he didn't have to do anything to earn the title of "DLOTS", so he's not considered in the prophecy of Anakin destroying the sith.

Sexy, you're not explaining it very clearly, how about leaving the discussion?
Kadesh, he was an artificial sith, and it's made clear through official sources that DE Sidious wasn't a true sith, just an artificial one.

Bullshit. Even the narrative in issue Six calls him 'The Sith Lord'

By your logic, Anakin isn't The Chosen One.

He is. The balance was simply too strong to be affected anymore, even by Sith.
That simple.

Why is dumbass Nebaris even in this conversation?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
He is. The balance was simply too strong to be affected anymore, even by Sith.
That simple.

That's bullshit and you know it, GL makes it clear that restoring balance is simply completely destroying the sith for good, so you can either accept that DE doesn't fit into continuity, or accept that DE Sidious wasn't a true sith.

Originally posted by The Sith'ari
That's bullshit and you know it, GL makes it clear that restoring balance is simply completely destroying the sith for good, so you can either accept that DE doesn't fit into continuity, or accept that DE Sidious wasn't a true sith.

Palpatine's clone carried his essence - his spirit was the same one present in him throughout the movies. Lumiya did not consider him "a true Sith" by virtue of training or teaching. Aside from that, Anakin's sacrifice broke the grip Palpatine had on the galaxy - the Sith as an institution were destroyed by RotJ and the Empire had begun its decline.