Originally posted by Tangible God
Begging your pardon, but...what? The last true Sith was Naga Sadow, but those are semantics.Are you saying that Palpatine's bodiless spirit, which spent seven years after Endor getting into a clone body he had prepared beforehand on Byss with Sate Pestage's help, using a similar Sith technique he had used on Bevel Lemelisk like 7 times, was not actually a Sith? Are you saying that that Palpatine wasn't even Palpatine? Or are you getting Dark Empire confused with the cloned Thrawn?
Actually when I say the last sith I don't mean the species, I mean the concept of the DLOTS and all that stuff. And yes, Lumiya says the clone was not a real sith, and Lucas said the Sith in belief and everything else died on Endor, and that Anakin fulfilled the prophecy.
Originally posted by Darth SexyAs you can read in the rules Ush recently put up, there are two separate canons, EU has its own. And in the EU, the Sith survived past Endor.
Actually when I say the last sith I don't mean the species, I mean the concept of the DLOTS and all that stuff. And yes, Lumiya says the clone was not a real sith, and Lucas said the Sith in belief and everything else died on Endor, and that Anakin fulfilled the prophecy.
So that would mean the entire DE is now no longer within the EU continuity.
Again, the explanation given was that he was an artificial sith. It's lame, I know, but it's the only valid explanation that can be given.
It would also mean Lumiya, Jacen, Krayt, the whole Legacy she-bang are also outside the EU canon.
No. Lumiya, Jacen and Krayt's order were never part of the true sith order like Palpatine and Vader were, they weren't ordained by true sith lords. All they are, are dark jedi who are claiming the name and posing as sith.
That wouldn't make sense now would it?
No it wouldn't now.
Originally posted by Tangible God
So that would mean the entire DE is now no longer within the EU continuity. It would also mean Lumiya, Jacen, Krayt, the whole Legacy she-bang are also outside the EU canon. That wouldn't make sense now would it?
You're not understanding dude. Lucas said this REGARDING the EU. The sith died on Endor, the clone was a clone, and Darth Krayt is a pretender. Lumiya even confirms this.
Originally posted by Darth SexyI can understand how everyone after Palpatine can be considered phonies or pretenders, honestly I haven't read Legacy so I won't pretend to be an expert. I actually have a question I'd like answered: Did Jacen, or Krayt's Sith ever learn from dead Sith spirits or ancient Sith scrolls or teachings etc.? Because if they did, and are still considered false, could not the same apply to Kun, Revan, Bane etc.? Again, just something I've meant to clarify for myself.
You're not understanding dude. Lucas said this REGARDING the EU. The sith died on Endor, the clone was a clone, and Darth Krayt is a pretender. Lumiya even confirms this.
Did Lucas actually state that DE Palpatine is not the spirit and mind of Palpatine imbued into a clone body? Cause if that's what he said, then... wow. If not then again, Bevel Lemelisk was killed by Palpatine, and all his clones were completely separate people, just with similar memories, not Bevel's mind and spirit transferred to another body using Sith techniques.
Again, if Lucas actually stated this, then I've lost what little respect I had for the man's creative spark.
Originally posted by Tangible God
I can understand how everyone after Palpatine can be considered phonies or pretenders, honestly I haven't read Legacy so I won't pretend to be an expert. I actually have a question I'd like answered: Did Jacen, or Krayt's Sith ever learn from dead Sith spirits or ancient Sith scrolls or teachings etc.? Because if they did, and are still considered false, could not the same apply to Kun, Revan, Bane etc.? Again, just something I've meant to clarify for myself.
Did Lucas actually state that DE Palpatine is not the spirit and mind of Palpatine imbued into a clone body? Cause if that's what he said, then... wow. If not then again, Bevel Lemelisk was killed by Palpatine, and all his clones were completely separate people, just with similar memories, not Bevel's mind and spirit transferred to another body using Sith techniques.Again, if Lucas actually stated this, then I've lost what little respect I had for the man's creative spark. [/B]