Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion vs the ROTS jedi order

Started by Mizukage Yoda31 pages

Originally posted by Enyalus
As a wound in the Force, the Force Sever technique is useless.

Really then why did the Council in KOTORII do it to the exile at the end. The only reason they stopped is because Kreia walked in and WTF pwned all three masters. If it was useless than there would be nothing Kreia would love more as the Masters most powerful technique failed

Originally posted by Tangible God
Ala KotOR II. Honestly, he let them board. If he's magnificent, he could've just drained the planet and everyone around instead of allowing the Exile's party to get the better of him.

A Jedi Knight, his own apprentice, and a Mandalorian hardly compare to the threat of an entire Jedi Council.

Hm, an Entire Republic Fleet, an army of blood thirsty Mandalorians, and a former Sith Apprentice who trained with Revan; the God of that era. Visas translated this perfectly.
"Release me or I'll blow us all to hell" Exile.
"unintelligible" Nihilus
"He thinks he can survive it," Visas.
A proton charge that annihilated the Ravager completely, is most defiantly a threat yet he ignores it. An entire Republic fleet is ignored as well. And the Exile was enough of a threat for him to send his apprentice after her.
Nihilus only sees planets, this is true, so if he was attacking say Coruscant, where at all times at least 100 Jedi were present than he would devote his attention to it. At this time the Council would board and then cut him off from the force

Not only have the PT Jedi never shown the ability to use Sever Force, but as I said, it isn't even possible. Which is why Nihilus' attempt on the Exile failed.

Nihilus did not cut the exile off from the force, he attempted to suck the living force from him for sustenance. Quite different from what the Council tried. And when the Council does try the exile says I will submit to this punishment. I think that the Council does have that power, A hole in the force would then regain his power from those that he kills as the Council states in the Exile's second trial. But as Vrook said "We have the ability to cut you off from the force." And I highly doubt such a technique would be lost in the vast archives of the Jedi Order. And did Tholme not sever himself off from the force, similar to what the Exile did to prevent herself from dieing at Malachor V.

Nihilus uses a variant of Force Sever. My apologies about Tholme.

No prob dude. But from what I saw what Nihilus did was more similar to the Thought Bomb
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Thought_Bomb

The popular opinion is that Nihilus severs people's connection with the Force and then feeds on the death it causes.

And sorry for the brief answers earlier. I was in class. Lol.

I agree but when people are severed from the force their bodies remain, Thought bomb takes soul and body; which is why the Surface of Katar became lifeless and there were no corpses of the Masters long dead on its surface
Oh and its not a prob I only posted cause I had a four hour free period today lol

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
I agree but when people are severed from the force their bodies remain, Thought bomb takes soul and body; which is why the Surface of Katar became lifeless and there were no corpses of the Masters long dead on its surface
Oh and its not a prob I only posted cause I had a four hour free period today lol
Ulic was severed, but he didn't die. Sevring the Force connection doesn't kill the lifeform. From what I know of Nihilus, it sounds like he performed a massive Drain on the planet and fed off the loss of life.

Ulic's connection was "severed" in a sense that he couldn't command the force, as was the exile.

Nihilus destroys that force bond which in turn kills them.

Originally posted by Schwarzenegger
Ulic's connection was "severed" in a sense that he couldn't command the force, as was the exile.

Nihilus destroys that force bond which in turn kills them.

Wookiepedia (shh) says he drains the life around him--Force Drain. But whatever.

Originally posted by Schwarzenegger
Ulic's connection was "severed" in a sense that he couldn't command the force, as was the exile.

Nihilus destroys that force bond which in turn kills them.

You always explain that better than I do, lol. Thanks.

Lol np 🙂

@TG

I don't trust wookie in this place because it contradicts what kreia stated. It isn't some mere force drain or it wouldn't have been called "the greatest of the sith teachings".

Originally posted by Schwarzenegger
Lol np 🙂

@TG

I don't trust wookie in this place because it contradicts what kreia stated. It isn't some mere force drain or it wouldn't have been called "the greatest of the sith teachings".

Oh Lord no, nothing mere about it. I'd call it a Force Drain of unprecedented proportions. Seems to be what it is.

His power reminds me of the Thought Bomb and Force Harvester.

No Jedi could defend against the Bomb, and only by earning Sith techniques was Anakin able to resist the Force Harvest while it was in the Dark Reaper.

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
His power reminds me of the Thought Bomb and Force Harvester.

No Jedi could defend against the Bomb, and only by earning Sith techniques was Anakin able to resist the Force Harvest while it was in the Dark Reaper.


Not sith techniques. It is said by mace that it was taught by Ulic to JEDI to withstand the reapers effects. So I doubt that they are sith

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Not sith techniques. It is said by mace that it was taught by Ulic to JEDI to withstand the reapers effects. So I doubt that they are sith
At the time of the Dark Reaper campaign, Ulic was already Kun's apprentice and studying Sith techniques.

The only reason he gave the technique to the Jedi was that he didn't want Nomi killed by it.

Also, on Rhen Var, Ulic warns Anakin that the teachings he needed could lead him down the darkside. Anakin, of course, doubted this at which point Ulic showed his scars. He the first part of how he fell.

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
At the time of the Dark Reaper campaign, Ulic was already Kun's apprentice and studying Sith techniques.

The only reason he gave the technique to the Jedi was that he didn't want Nomi killed by it.

Also, on Rhen Var, Ulic warns Anakin that the teachings he needed could lead him down the darkside. Anakin, of course, doubted this at which point Ulic showed his scars. He the first part of how he fell.

Damn me thrice.

Nice post.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Oh Lord no, nothing mere about it. I'd call it a Force Drain of unprecedented proportions. Seems to be what it is.
Once again kotor2 and kreia proves it was not a force drain.

If its a force drain, then why is it called "unique to him" or "the greatest of the sith teachings"?