Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion vs the ROTS jedi order

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When Sidious used force lightning against Windu, Windu did not copy the power he redirected it via the superconductive loop. Vappad had more than one feat to it. It allowed Windu to channel his own inner darkness into a waepon of light, it was used to draw on the dark energy that Sidious was causing, and it worked as a superconductive loop.

Yes vapaad is a state of mind that allows these accomplishments.

The Jedi Order curb stomps the two and scatter Sion's pieces across thee Galaxy

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
Nihilus' ability seems to function the same as the Force Harvester, except faster, deadlier, and to FAR greater degree.

Mace that if the Dark Reaper was brought back it would mean the end of the Republic, however Anakin learned from a holocron of Ulic at his tomb on Rhen Var the abilities to resist its effects. Apparently, no other Jedi learned these techniques due to fear of falling to the darkside...

No such ablilties exist for what Nihilus does (probably due to technical differences and his raw ability) in fact, only another wound in the force can stand up to Nihilus' Drain/Sever/Strip (the Harvester can't feed on wounds either, go figure).

As far as Sion goes, there are only a handful of Jedi that pose a remote threat if any.

If anybody can prove this wrong then the PT Jedi win, otherwise Nihilus annhilates them.

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
If anybody can prove this wrong then the PT Jedi win, otherwise Nihilus annhilates them.

The Jedi Council holds the power to cut one off from the force doesn't it. If three Masters in KOTOR II can do it I'm sure that the Jedi Council can. Yaddle was the leader of the Libarians, I'm damn sure she knows of it, also she could use Morichro to kill Sion, he maybe able to heal wounds but that will slow his organs down to a hault.

...They have to indentify and be within range of him.

Nihilus seems to be able to do it rather instantly, so they won't have the time.

hm, well as I recall he didn't instantly drain Atris on the surface of Telos. So I believe they'd have time whilst a 10,000 strong order were used as Canon fodder...

I doubt he tried and by the time he he was there Atris was dead anyways.

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No she doesn't die in the canon version so I'm sure he would have drained her had it been instant, but the exile boarding his ship seems to have taken his attention. If I recall on the bridge of the Ravager, the Exile tells him; try to drain me; he tries and he collapses, if it was instant the moment the exile entered the room, or better yet his warship he would have struck. The entire Mandalorian army wasn't effected either, or the Republic Fleet, and Bastilla who was aboard Admiral Onasi's flagship

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
[B]No she doesn't die in the canon version
The sith holocrons killed her off
so I'm sure he would have drained her had it been instant, but the exile boarding his ship seems to have taken his attention. If I recall on the bridge of the Ravager, the Exile tells him; try to drain me; he tries and he collapses,
He barely took notice of anthing smaller than a planet, unless it directly challenged him.
if it was instant the moment the exile entered the room, or better yet his warship he would have struck.
He had not even been using the technique or trying to.
The entire Mandalorian army wasn't effected either, or the Republic Fleet, and Bastilla who was aboard Admiral Onasi's flagship
Again, he wasn't using it at the time. He was biding his time and trying to sense the Jedi( Telos was a wound because of all the death and destruction that took place and therefore made sensing things difficult). If he had enacted the technique the moment he got there then all life at Telos would have been killed, as would have the Republic fleet once they arrived. Instead, he waited for a chance to absorb the Exile.

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
He barely took notice of anthing smaller than a planet, unless it directly challenged him. He had not even been using the technique or trying to Again, he wasn't using it at the time. He was biding his time and trying to sense the Jedi( Telos was a wound because of all the death and destruction that took place and therefore made sensing things difficult). If he had enacted the technique the moment he got there then all life at Telos would have been killed, as would have the Republic fleet once they arrived. Instead, he waited for a chance to absorb the Exile.

I just played the game canon LS female, they did not, kill Atris off. And if Nihilus cannot see anything bigger than a planet than why can't the Jedi Council board his ship, cut him off from the force then watch as Sion slowly dies from Mochiro

I didn't say he couldn't, I said he didn't notice.

Oh, and read the entire post, I specified unless it challenged him.

I'm sure Yoda, and at least two other masters can mask his presence, a little old man on his ship would hardly be a threat to him

I doubt they would know the nature of the threat that Nihilus poses and wouldn't uses those techniques even if they could.

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
I doubt they would know the nature of the threat that Nihilus poses and wouldn't uses those techniques even if they could.
Surprisingly true. Unless they all recognized Nihilus and remembered what he can do, there's a good chance Nihilus will eat them before they can defend themselves.

Of course that's assuming that Nihilus uses his trademark technique instantaneously and doesn't need any time to power up.

Oh, I believe a Dark Lord as powerful as Nihilus would be mentioned in a Jedi Order rebuilt by the Exile's companions.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Oh, I believe a Dark Lord as powerful as Nihilus would be mentioned in a Jedi Order rebuilt by the Exile's companions.
More than likely. I'd also say, that, given his nature (a hole in the Force), the Council may also decide to sever him to avoid any... entaglements (given his known history). Really I see it coming down to who draws first: The Council severing Nihilus, or Nihilus eating the Council. I say the Council's quicker.

Yoda: End this threat we must
Nihilus on the Ravager arrogantly looks at Coruscant as his warship approaches. The Council boards it, Nihilus continues to ignore them until they envelope him in a Stass field and cut him off permanently.

As a wound in the Force, the Force Sever technique is useless.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Yoda: End this threat we must
Nihilus on the Ravager arrogantly looks at Coruscant as his warship approaches. The Council boards it, Nihilus continues to ignore them until they envelope him in a Stass field and cut him off permanently.
Ala KotOR II. Honestly, he let them board. If he's magnificent, he could've just drained the planet and everyone around instead of allowing the Exile's party to get the better of him.