Darth Revan vs. DE Sidious

Started by Kadesh7 pages

What is mechu-Deru exactly? Or morichro for that matter?

I think the mechu-duro thingymabob in is the dark side technique that allows one great skill in building things. 😕 I know that sounds strange, but I think that's right.

Morichiro? No clue, but I've seen it mentioned before.

I actually think Palpatine's pretty overrated on here, what exactly speaks for his raw power being that much above Revan's?

Revan was able to wipe out an entire army of Rakatan warriors and Rancor beasts with force lightning alone, in one usage. This was also before the end of KotOR, where he apparently becomes much more powerful.

And judging by how Bane viewed Revan, and his holocron, I think it's pretty safe to say that his knowledge base was pretty exponential too.

Honestly, I'd say Sidious wins, but he hardly curbstomps.

I dunno, his Force Storm? His force lightning prowess?

Oh, and Revan wiped out a scouting party. Thanks!

1. Force Storm is ritualistic. It doesn't speak for his raw power, and it can't be utilised in this scenario. Point moot.

2. What's so great about his lightning?

3. And no, Revan wiped out all of The One's scouting parties.

Sidious can mortally wound people with single blasts of energy (doubt if it's Force lightning - 'cuz it looks different). But, yeah, he's probably got the most potent Force lightning this side of Luke's green version. He can decimate a hundred stormtroopers with a single blast (augmented stormtroopers at that), he can turn three powerful dark side prophets who were capable of "resurrecting" Darth Maul into smoldering skeletons with a single blast (and they were powerful Force uers).

Sidious can move at outrageous speeds - he owned Luke in single combat despite Luke being very powerful in his own right (creating immense illusions, repelling fire from an AT-AT, toppling said AT-AT with only the Force). He knows an extreme amount of Jedi techniques, such as Malacia (induces nausea to one's opponent and disorients them). He's the undisputed grandmaster of Sith arts. He's the most powerful Sith Lord in history - according to the sourcebook, tNEC, and the spirits of the Ancient Sith Lords. He used the Force to bury a Super Star Destroyer under Coruscant and then mindwiped the population so they forgot what they saw. During his fight with Luke, he killed nearby Imperial personnel due to the sheer immensity of the power output that they were giving off. Lastly, it took the combined Force connection of three Skywalkers to stop him and his Force Storm.

So.. :erm: how does he not curbstomp?

Edit: The Force Storm is about as ritualistic as Bane's blast on the Temple, Sexyback. All he needs is a few seconds to summon some rage, and then he unleashes it.

Pfft sidious lightning > revans lightning

This pic clearly shows that

And that was just over a drink, lol.

Anyways, LS is right, Palpatine's flunky - Sedriss - was able to call down lightning from the sky to devastating effect.

What was palpatine going to drink? Whisky?, i did see a picture that when he dropped his mug and the bottle he got angry and killed the storm troopers or was he going to drink Blue milk?

Originally posted by Gideon
And that was just over a drink, lol.

Anyways, LS is right, Palpatine's flunky - Sedriss - was able to call down lightning from the sky to devastating effect.

What comic book is that picture in? And in what book does he bury the star destroyer.

He buried the Lusankya prior to the X-wing series....Escape has the complete quote.

And he annihilates the stormies in Empire volume 1

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I dunno, his Force Storm? His force lightning prowess?

Oh, and Revan wiped out a scouting party. Thanks!


I checked it again and Revan wiped out Scouting Parties and not just a single scouting party. He made a huge kill with his Lightning attack.

He then again destroyed the entire Black Rakatan Race as a Jedi.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
What comic book is that picture in? And in what book does he bury the star destroyer.

It wasn't in a book. You see, Ysanne Isard - the head of Imperial Intelligence - operated from a Super Star Destroyer buried beneath Coruscant. It was a gift from the Emperor. Well, there has always been speculation how the Empire got the damn thing down there, and the New Essential Guide to Charactes confirms in Isard's biography that Palpatine did it himself. He used the Force to bury the Lusankya (the name of the ship) - which, by the way, is the sister ship to the Executor - and then he mindwiped the planet's population to forget what they saw.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Pfft sidious lightning > revans lightning

Wrong! I have checked in KOTOR game once again and Revan destroyed "all the scouting parties" through his Force attack.

This makes Revan's Lightining more powerful.

Originally posted by Gideon
It wasn't in a book. You see, Ysanne Isard - the head of Imperial Intelligence - operated from a Super Star Destroyer buried beneath Coruscant. It was a gift from the Emperor. Well, there has always been speculation how the Empire got the damn thing down there, and the New Essential Guide to Charactes confirms in Isard's biography that Palpatine did it himself. He used the Force to bury the Lusankya (the name of the ship) - which, by the way, is the sister ship to the Executor - and then he mindwiped the planet's population to forget what they saw.

That's funny, I can't find that anywhere in my copy...

Originally posted by Sexyback
That's funny, I can't find that anywhere in my copy...

It's under Isard's biography, I assure you. Should say something like "he used the mind fogging powers of the Force to command the population to forget what they saw."

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Wrong! I have checked in KOTOR game once again and Revan destroyed "all the scouting [b]parties" through his Force attack.

This makes Revan's Lightining more powerful. [/B]

WRONG!

(lol, had to do that, you're so funny when you try to prove people wrong)

1. Prove that Revan did this with a single attack.

2. Even if he did, lol, it's very elementary - he continued to use the attack 'til they were all did. Which is what Palpatine would have done had more Stormtroopers been present.

3. Prove that "scouting parties" of technologically inferior species are more numerous than a brigade of enhanced Stormtroopers.

Originally posted by Gideon
WRONG!

(lol, had to do that, you're so funny when you try to prove people wrong)

1. Prove that Revan did this with a single attack.

2. Even if he did, lol, it's very elementary - he continued to use the attack 'til they were all did. Which is what Palpatine would have done had more Stormtroopers been present.

3. Prove that "scouting parties" of technologically inferior species are more numerous than a brigade of enhanced Stormtroopers.


No you are wrong too!

It is well established that both Revan and Sidious were master practioners of Force Lightning. So it is useless to argue upon this.

1. The One's scouting parties were destroyed in a very short time. It was not a long or hard battle as you try to portray.

2. His attack was of a large scale like that of Sidious. And Lightning can kill non-Jedi very quickly. Only Jedi and Sith can resist it for long time.

3. Technology is irrelevant. Sidious killed large number of troops (100 total) with his Lightning. And Revan also killed large number of Rakatans (several scouting parties) with his Lightning attack.

So it is useless to argue upon this as both Sidious and Revan are powerful enough to counter Lightning attacks. It does not matters.

My point stands that Revan will go down after a good fight. It will not be WTFPawn situation as some Sidious Fanboy's try to say.

I don't get it, how do you brainwash the entire planet of Coruscant, and how do you put a super star destroyer BENEATH coruscant?

It said he destroyed a socuting PARTY singular.

this WILL be quickly...Palpaine's lightning has wiped out a battalion of elite stormies when he was hardly involved