Originally posted by Nellinator
Then this is our disagreeances. I truly feel that this is really a lament about a certain situation he thinks would easily be solved if they were not married. Ultimately, I don't think it matters who is right though.
Well, no. Empires will hardly rise and fall over this one.
Originally posted by Gregory
Huh? I didn't ignore it. What did you want me to say about it? I never claimed that Paul thought marriage was sinful, and I don't think I've mentioned talking in church recently. That was ... debbijo, maybe?
I just know that I post stuff here that's like, "There. Now, be quiet and stop saying things."
And everyone else is like, "What?"
And, trust me, it's not for a lack of clarity in my writing.
Originally posted by Gregory
Not simple enough for you, apparently 😉(Since this started with something I thought was funny, here's something else I think is funny to finish it off: I have never once, in this entire thread, criticized Paul's views on marriage. And yet everyone seems to feel compelled to defend him, as if he were under attack. Weird.)
* yeah right, you are not criticizing Saint Paul... tell it to the marines... you know what's weird? you're criticizing someone and you don't have the balls to admit it...
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I assume Peejayd feels he must remain loyal to the entire Bible....is that true Peejayd ?
* well... yeah... but more importantly, to defend someone from a critic who claims he's not criticizing...
Originally posted by Gregory
There are also apocalyptic undertones to the text. Paul claims that "appointed time has grown short," and that is why people who already have spouses should live as if they didn't (abstain from sexual intercourse? I'm not quite sure what he means by that, since that interpretation would conflict with the reason for marriage that he gives above.)
* you don't know what he means? then stop interpreting it the wrong way... you have posted what you think the reason why Saint Paul wrote those things to the Corinthians, so hey! would you do something different if you are in his shoes? 🙄
The marines? Have you decided to stop even pretending to make sense? And stop the mind-reading act; pretending that you understand my thoughts and motivations beter then I do myself is ludacrous at the best of times, and, in this case, wherein you come straight out and accuse me of lying about them, down-right offensive. I have told Nellinator--who some of the Christians on this board might do well to emulate--my views of the subject, and I doubt it's worth my while to continue this conversation with you.
* now, i'm the offender... you just said Saint Paul disapproved marriage... and i disagreed... then you said i should admit that i was wrong and get on with my life... and i'm now the offender? please, mr.gregory, compose yourself... we WERE having a nice discussion before you started acting like an a-hole...
* let me put it this way - if you're not really criticizing Saint Paul, then why the heck are you acting like you were? plus, the fact that i disagreed on your view means that i should/must admit i'm wrong? what kind of notion is that? 😕
Paul was a Jew. Get over your Christian conspiracy theories and move on to something that is credible and debatable. Thank you very much.Paul was also a Roman citizen and was influenced by them much. Tarsus was a hub for the Mithra religion.
Also, I wasn't asking you so you are being rude and obnoxious. Shame on you.
And shame on you for calling me rude and obnoxious, and I can respond to any post I want, this is a public board........eat
Originally posted by GregoryI didn't talk about marriage yet... I just talked about "Women being silent", oh, and it is true that Paul taught things not commanded by god. He instituted his own views. Then one must look at where he derived them from.
Huh? I didn't ignore it. What did you want me to say about it? I never claimed that Paul thought marriage was sinful, and I don't think I've mentioned talking in church recently. That was ... debbijo, maybe?
Originally posted by debbiejo
Paul was also a Roman citizen and was influenced by them much. Tarsus was a hub for the Mithra religion.I didn't talk about marriage yet... I just talked about "Women being silent", oh, and it is true that Paul taught things not commanded by god. He instituted his own views. Then one must look at where he derived them from.
* Saint Paul taught things commanded by God (I Corinthians 14:37)... the things he instituted his own views on, are not doctrines but spiritual advices for brethren... 😉