Darth Nihilus vs. Yoda

I've sacrificed enough dignity on this

the last thing you should be worried about is your dignity, although you have lost a lot of it. I'd include respect, the ability to form cogent arguments, the ability to think clearly, the belief that you aren't a fanboy, etc. I'll come up with some more for you later.

Look Lightsnake!

Yoda's Raw Power is much greater then that of Nihilus.

I believe that Yoda is over-all more powerful then Nihilus.

But Nihilus has still demonstrated more mastery in the Force then him.

Anyways! Yoda is much better then Nihilus in Saber Skills. But he is not a wound in the Force like Jedi Exile.

Nihilus will kill Yoda if he gets caught in Nihilus's Drain attack. And Nihilus's Drain is instant.

You should try to keep your personal biases out from these debates.

About the statements regarding Dooku, yes, Count Dooku was considered "the Order's greatest loss". The complete visual guide says that of all the Lost Twenty, Dooku was considered the most bitter loss because of his strength in the Force. This is an obvious statement that his strength in the Force superceded any of the previous nineteen lost Jedi - I don't know if Kun's one of them, or not, but I'd imagine so.

Either way, Dooku was one of the very most gifted swordsmen and Force users in the Order's history. Books such as Dark Rendezvous, Labyrinth of Evil, and the RotS novelization make that point very, very clear.

Yoda is the most powerful of Jedi. He should be able to destroy Nihilus.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Look Lightsnake!

Yoda's Raw Power is much greater then that of Nihilus.

I believe that Yoda is over-all more powerful then Nihilus.

But Nihilus has still demonstrated more mastery in the Force then him.

You should try to keep your personal biases out from these debates.

Originally posted by Gideon
About the statements regarding Dooku, yes, Count Dooku was considered "the Order's greatest loss". The complete visual guide says that of all the Lost Twenty, Dooku was considered the most bitter loss because of his strength in the Force. This is an obvious statement that his strength in the Force superceded any of the previous nineteen lost Jedi - I don't know if Kun's one of them, or not, but I'd imagine so.

Either way, Dooku was one of the very most gifted swordsmen and Force users in the Order's history. Books such as Dark Rendezvous, Labyrinth of Evil, and the RotS novelization make that point very, very clear.

Did you post in the wrong section Escape?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
How so, though?

Legend, this isn't true. It's a drain like any other ability. Yoda's own mastery and possible Fallanassi abilities would save him.
I am. However, 'Nihilus owns all because his technique was unbeatable 4 years ago' is faulty

Yoda's own mastery won't save him because that term is so damn ridiculous that it shouldn't even be used. "OH Yoda will own Guy X because of his Force Mastery". What the hell does that even mean? IF he knows the looping ability(which there is no proof for that), he can defeat Nihilus. If not, which is more likely, he better move fast.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Did you post in the wrong section Escape?

Nope. 😛

Last page, you had a brief chat about Dooku > Kun. And the Order seems to think Dooku was the greater loss.

I suppose but you forget that Kun left the Jedi order as a padawan and came back a lot stronger, so I highly doubt Kun being a loss as a padawan has any bearing on Dooku>Kun or vice versa.

I don't think they measure loss by what someone was when they actually left the Order.

It's very likely Kun was a member of the Lost Twenty, along with Xendor, Darth Ruin and the others

Well, I don't see where they even mentioned Kun and the Jedi Order itself, which means they either didn't write that much on Kun, or nobody knew of him as a Padawan.

He was the most skilled padawan-it;s implied he was a knight as was- of Vodo-Siosk Baas....that's still a member of the Order.
Darth Ruin and Xendor were the same

I wonder how in the 25,000 year history of the Jedi order, there were only 20 lost.

Voluntary leavings. They were usually masters who resigned their commision

Falling to the darkside isn't quite the same thing though, Kun wouldn't count, and he was a padawan anyway, The Lost 20 only refers to actual jedi (Knights and Masters).

Originally posted by Lightsnake
How so, though?

Then his Force Drain ability was so immense that he could Drain an entire World from the Force and Life.

Then he could also Force Stun multiple opponents.

So, overall he has demonstrated more mastery in the Force.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Legend, this isn't true. It's a drain like any other ability. Yoda's own mastery and possible Fallanassi abilities would save him.
I am. However, 'Nihilus owns all because his technique was unbeatable 4 years ago' is faulty

Yoda does not canonically knows Fallanassi Looping techniques. Luke however learns this much later.

My personal Opinion on Nihilus and KOTOR II: I hate Nihilus actually but Obsidian developed this monster and put a good dent on Star Wars. 🙄

GL's Star Wars was so pure and good and the EU has ruined it badly.

Obsidian should not be allowed to make an another KOTOR game.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
We all know that Nihilus had kept the broken Ravager Ship intact and flying in the space through sheer Force of his will. This was Telekinetic ability actually and was more impressive then Yoda throwing a Pod or holding off a Crane.

My personal Opinion on Nihilus and KOTOR II: I hate Nihilus actually but Obsidian developed this monster and put a good dent on Star Wars. 🙄

GL's Star Wars was so pure and good and the EU has ruined it badly.

Obsidian should not be allowed to make an another KOTOR game.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Legend, do you read the EU? Yoda has lifted up guns the size of houses on his back and tossed around capital ships

I however do not know that Yoda could toss around Capital Ships. If this is true then Nihilus and Yoda are equal in regards of Telekinesis.

However I would like to see a direct source for this claim to make up my mind.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
So? Palp was even stronger

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Hardly, Joruus C'Baoth did that technique to a great extent

Originally posted by Lightsnake
No! His drain is the same. as shown with the Thought bomb, a dying world causes many tremors and environmental effects, that's all!

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yoda knew the fallanassi well, actually.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I agree

Even the Luke based EU stories have become less interesting now. Now they are trying to make Jacen a Sith Lord as well. Nice move to prolong a story. Does anyone stops falling to Dark Side and learn from mistakes of others? 🙄

And original KOTOR was so much plain and better. I think that Bioware have done much better job over-all. They should be allowed to do the next KOTOR project, if it is in the plans.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Any powerful Jedi can lift heavy objects. It is no surprise to me that Yoda could do that.

I however do not know that Yoda could toss around Capital Ships. If this is true then Nihilus and Yoda are equal in regards of Telekinesis.

Yeah actually!

Even the Luke based EU stories have become less interesting now. Now they are trying to make Jacen a Sith Lord as well. Nice move to prolong a story. Does anyone stops falling to Dark Side and learn from mistakes of others? 🙄

And original KOTOR was so much plain and better. I think that Bioware have done much better job over-all. They should be allowed to do the next KOTOR project, if it is in the plans.