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Started by Shakyamunison8 pages
Originally posted by FeceMan
War != murder.

Did god murder in the OT?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Did god murder in the OT?
Given that murder is the unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice, one cannot justly claim that God committed murder. No.

God killed Jesus and Jesus did nothing...He didn't break any laws for it to be unlawful.

Originally posted by Regret
Given that murder is the unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice, one cannot justly claim that God committed murder. No.

I was not using that standard, just that war is murder.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Did god murder in the OT?

well no

but he did tell the hebrews to slaughter a lot of people

But they were instruments of god....If they didn't obey, then they would be cut off themselves. Typical tyrant thinking.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
well no

but he did tell the hebrews to slaughter a lot of people

If murder is wrong, doesn't that make the OT god wrong?

Proof that god is a women, she changed her mind.....moody moody god...... 😒

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If murder is wrong, doesn't that make the OT god wrong?

Depends on how you look at it

By God's laws yes, that would make God morally wrong

But be have had people here who say that if God does something it's OK no matter what.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Did god murder in the OT?

War != murder.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Whether or not murder is wrong is not arbitrary to the will of God. Murder is either a transgression against God or it is not.
Originally posted by debbiejo
God killed Jesus and Jesus did nothing...He didn't break any laws for it to be unlawful.
Originally posted by debbiejo
But they were instruments of god....If they didn't obey, then they would be cut off themselves. Typical tyrant thinking.

* God is not bound by His own laws... He is the Creator, the giver of life... and if the Creator took that life away, that is not murder/killing... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* God is not bound by His own laws... He is the Creator, the giver of life... and if the Creator took that life away, that is not murder/killing... 😉

like I've said before what a fkn asshōle

Originally posted by peejayd
* God is not bound by His own laws... He is the Creator, the giver of life... and if the Creator took that life away, that is not murder/killing... 😉

So it is a case of "do as I say, and not as I do?" Congratulations, your god is a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
So it is a case of "do as I say, and not as I do?" Congratulations, your god is a hypocrite.
Now I know why the churchs are full of hypocrites!!

It's follow the leader.. 😱

Originally posted by debbiejo
Now I know why the churchs are full of hypocrites!!

It's follow the leader.. 😱

now Debb its God that comes off as a hypocrite not chruch goers

Originally posted by debbiejo
Now I know why the churchs are full of hypocrites!!

It's follow the leader.. 😱

😆

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
So it is a case of "do as I say, and not as I do?" Congratulations, your god is a hypocrite.

Well actually, since he is omnipotent he is the only one capable of making decisions of life and death. Therefore, he gave us laws so that we don't screw up. But, then people broke the laws and the world is all screwed up. Of course, God is going to be above his laws, he is not mortal, he is not weakened by flesh, he is omnipotent and omniscient. He is capable of making the best decision possible, whereas we cannot. Laws prevent us from being idiots and that is a fact of human existence.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Well actually, since he is omnipotent he is the only one capable of making decisions of life and death. Therefore, he gave us laws so that we don't screw up. But, then people broke the laws and the world is all screwed up. Of course, God is going to be above his laws, he is not mortal, he is not weakened by flesh, he is omnipotent and omniscient. He is capable of making the best decision possible, whereas we cannot. Laws prevent us from being idiots and that is a fact of human existence.

Its just that some people think that is just a little bit too much of a loophole for God

Others have pointed out that some of the laws seem a bit . . . odd.

Some of the odd ones have a definite purpose though. God was setting Israel apart from its surrounding countries, therefore, the law had to go against the norm and make the people of Israel think and feel as though they were God's people.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
like I've said before what a fkn asshōle

* yes, IF (a big IF) it's human... but a big NO because He is God, the giver of life... God kills, no sin committed (Deuteronomy 32:39)... human kills, sin committed... we don't have to treat God like a human... 😉