Christians...

Started by Symmetric Chaos8 pages
Originally posted by peejayd
* yes, IF (a big IF) it's human... but a big NO because He is God, the giver of life... God kills, no sin committed (Deuteronomy 32:39)... human kills, sin committed... we don't have to treat God like a human... 😉

Deuteronomy 32:39 reads: See now that I myself am He! There is no god besides me. I put to death and I bring to life, I have wounded and I will heal, and no one can deliver out of my hand.

that says that God has done lots of awful things (and one good thing) not that he is immune to the amorality of such actions

* it only means that God has power/authority over human lives... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* it only means that God has power/authority over human lives... 😉

OK but I stand by my insult of God. (Absolute power corrupts absolutely and all that)

That's...really more of a statement, not an insult.

I refuse to worship someone who condones violence and hypocrisy....end of story.

Now, to answer Regret's question at the beginning of the thread: Why aren't Mormon considered "true" Christians? (Please correct me if any of this is incorrect.)

1. The Book of Mormon is not part of the Bible.

2. There is historical evidence suggesting that Smith and his early followers had involvements with things generally deemed "occultic."

3. Smith's ability to translate the text was based on his use of a "seer stone" placed into a hat, which he then put to his face--which is occultic in nature.

4. Smith lied to his followers about receiving the Book of Mormon from an angel--at least, he may have. Letters unearthed from one of his early disciples claim that he obtained it from a "magical white salamander" that transformed itself into a spirit. (Now, this is a bit of a tangent, and I have not thought upon it thoroughly, but a salamander and a serpent are not so different, especially if they both speak.)

5. It is taught that men and women can become gods/goddesses and will be worshiped by others if they achieve this status.

6. It is taught that Yahweh was once a man who became God.

7. It is taught that the Holy Spirit is a spirit in the form of a man.

8. Baptism for the dead is practiced (a misinterpretation of Paul's writing in 1 Corinthians).

9. "As man is, God once was; as God is, man may be."

Originally posted by FeceMan
1. The Book of Mormon is not part of the Bible.

True that Dog ✅

Originally posted by FeceMan
2. There is historical evidence suggesting that Smith and his early followers had involvements with things generally deemed "occultic."

As if the Bible is not of the occult ? 😬

Originally posted by FeceMan
3. Smith's ability to translate the text was based on his use of a "seer stone" placed into a hat, which he then put to his face--which is occultic in nature.

And raising a glass of wine and a host of bread, isn't ? 😬

Lighting of candles in front of Mary and Jesus is somehow not occultic as well ?

Kneeling and putting your hands together isn't occultic either ?

What about speaking in tongues ? 😕

Originally posted by FeceMan
4. Smith lied to his followers about receiving the Book of Mormon from an angel--at least, he may have. Letters unearthed from one of his early disciples claim that he obtained it from a "magical white salamander" that transformed itself into a spirit. (Now, this is a bit of a tangent, and I have not thought upon it thoroughly, but a salamander and a serpent are not so different, especially if they both speak.)

1) Anyone who claims they have interacted with an Angel is lying

2) Salamanders and Serpants do not speak, period.

Originally posted by FeceMan
5. It is taught that men and women can become gods/goddesses and will be worshiped by others if they achieve this status.

I wondor where that idea originated....

Originally posted by FeceMan
6. It is taught that Yahweh was once a man who became God.

That is False...

Yahweh was an idea who became a symbol.....

Originally posted by FeceMan
7. It is taught that Yahweh had intercourse with Mary.

That is what we of the Orgasmism beleive as well ✅

Originally posted by FeceMan
8. It is taught that the Holy Spirit is a spirit in the form of a man.

You know what the Holy Spirit is in my religion...but for the sake of not getting banned, I will not say.....

Originally posted by FeceMan
9. Baptism for the dead is practiced (a misinterpretation of Paul's writing in 1 Corinthians).

That's gross...almost Necrophiliac in nature 😘

Originally posted by FeceMan
10. "As man is, God once was; as God is, man may be."

Sounds Buddhist....

Would someone who counts like to respond?

Originally posted by FeceMan
Would someone who counts like to respond?

How do you interpret the baptism for the dead verse. That is one that has always puzzled me. It's so vague that it is hard to take anything from it.

* is this the verse?

"Else what shall they do that are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why then are they baptized for them?"
American Standard Version
I Corinthians 15:29

* it was written as those that are baptized for the dead... it is not the dead who is baptized... but the living person being baptized for the dead... in a revised version:

"Otherwise, what do people mean by being baptized on behalf of the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized on their behalf?"
Revised Standard Version

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
OK but I stand by my insult of God. (Absolute power corrupts absolutely and all that)

* okay, that's your opinion... but do you agree now that God is not bound by His own laws? like the example i gave? that God is the giver of life, so He also has the power to take it, and not committing sin by doing so? 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* okay, that's your opinion... but do you agree now that God is not bound by His own laws? like the example i gave? that God is the giver of life, so He also has the power to take it, and not committing sin by doing so? 😉

No.

Isn' t it most important to adhere to your own rules? If God expects them to be important to others, it behooves God to see to it that they are important to itself as well.

Originally posted by FeceMan
That's...really more of a statement, not an insult.

I was refering to my satement that God is an asshōle

the absolute power thing is merely a defense of that statement

Originally posted by peejayd

* okay, that's your opinion... but do you agree now that God is not bound by His own laws? like the example i gave? that God is the giver of life, so He also has the power to take it, and not committing sin by doing so? 😉

I understand that the bible states that God may circumvent his own rules but I maintain the position that it is extremely immoral

Originally posted by Nellinator
How do you interpret the baptism for the dead verse. That is one that has always puzzled me. It's so vague that it is hard to take anything from it.

I dunno. I'd have to read the whole chapte--kinda like the one where Paul allegedly is anti-marriage--before saying anything about it, and I'm not up to that right now.

Baptizing of the dead is more pagan than ever, and I think the Mormon church does this......not sure though.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Baptizing of the dead is more pagan than ever, and I think the Mormon church does this......not sure though.

Kinda...kinda like I said...

Oh, ok.........I didn't read every thing..... 😮

Ok, carry on......you have your ducks in a row... 😄

Originally posted by debbiejo
Oh, ok.........I didn't read every thing..... 😮

Ok, carry on......you have your ducks in a row... 😄

gun_bandana Duck hunting.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
gun_bandana Duck hunting.

You are the worst Buddist I've ever met. (you should hunt ducks with a shotgun btw)

how bout the nintendo game?