Ryu vs Terry Bogard

Started by Kirikaze Fuuma45 pages

here we go again...

Moses Malone! This shit again? Ken's been in every SF intro? Didn't know that. Ken ain't the hero like Terry was in FF(I've also noticed how you often bring up KOF even though I'm clearly talking about FF. Slick). Ken doesn't Hogan Routine the bosses like Terry does in FF. Ken's fights ain't as well documented either. We don't really know what he did in SF2 & we don't know if he really was in SF1. It's obviously not the same situstion as Terry's. Fail. Ken & Terry are not the same. If Terry obviously lost in KOF(Bullshit. Give me a name or STFU), then I guess it's obvious that Ken lost in SF2. See? I can be crazy &make assumptions too.

your assumption is baseless. while we don't know who is the real winner of SF2, KOF has a real winner. so, STFU until you had a real winner of SF2.

But if what you're saying about FF-KOF is true. Why the fvck ain't Geese in KOFs anymore?

check this out : http://kofaniv.snkplaymore.co.jp/english/history/kof2003_story/index.php?num=outlow

But if what you're saying about FF-KOF is true. Why the fvck ain't Geese in KOFs anymore?

he is around...he's just not IN the tournaments. If you actually read the prologues for Gato's team, geese is the one who convinces him to take part in it (threatening to kill his sister). Terry also says to billy, "tell your master, after KoF, i'm coming after him".

Sorry, but to be honest, Fuk posters & same goes for intros. They don't mean shit to be honest. Example-ripoff suckasaki looks like he kix the @sshole in the baseball cap's @ss in MI2 intro. Did he beat Terry's @ss? Nope. As usual, ripoff suckassaki can't make it to the finals 'cuz his style ain't shit. Neither Franco, Rick or Krauser beat Terry & are unheard of nowadays. Intros mean nothing

i know. i was talking about people sharing the spot with terry...or even looking good at his expense. the type of shite that never happens to "Hogan" or his blonde gaypal.

Moses Malone! This shit again? Ken's been in every SF intro?

ryu, foo! 😠

(I've also noticed how you often bring up KOF even though I'm clearly talking about FF. Slick)

kof began with terry. and he's in it. and its canon. why shouldn't i?

Ken doesn't Hogan Routine the bosses like Terry does in FF.

he didn't pull a hogan routine. inventing a new move and using it as your last gambit aint hogan routine. hogan routine is what ryu did in SFA3: get shitstomped, then comeback out of nowhere with shoryulegdrop and make a godtier run away. that's being hogan. what terry did is use a last gambit in a tough, even fight. just like it happens in real fights. fact.

Ken's fights ain't as well documented either. We don't really know what he did in SF2 & we don't know if he really was in SF1.

he wasn't in SF1.
and his fights are as welldocumented as Terry's in KoF.

Ken & Terry are not the same. If Terry obviously lost in KOF(Bullshit. Give me a name or STFU), then I guess it's obvious that Ken lost in SF2. See? I can be crazy &make assumptions too.

but while nothing about SF2 is known, we KNOW that kyo/k' won KoF94/95/96/97/99/00/01/03/xi.
its not really that hard.

Won SF1 by cheapshot, not a Hogan Routine. That allows Sagat to keep his badassness & look like a guy that you have to cheat to beat. I wish Geese would have gotten that kinda respect. Terry ain't lost in FF & there's no record or description of what happened to him in his fights in KOF. Terry's been in all the FF covers that had people right?

geese still looked good. he fought in an even bout and lost to someone who was no rookie, and actually had a rep. Sagat looked good also, but beating up a nobody, rookie, loser, with no rep<<<<<<looking good, having a tough bout, fighting evenly with a someone who aint a rookie, has a rep, and actually had enough power to put sionisis on your body.
and you jsut admitted to no descriptions. so why the "hogan routine" talk?

FF1, he's sharing it with Andy, Joe, Geese. the intro also depicts andy and joe.
FF2, he's sharing it wit andy, joe. the intro depicts everyone.
FF3, punched in the kisser by franco. intro has him, yamazaki,
geese
FFWA, sharing it with everyone. the game intro has Geese. no terry. the story intro has him and geese.
FFRB, sharing it with everyone. the game intro has mainly him and geese.
FFRB2, him all busted and rick stepping on his cap. intro has either xiangfei or rick. no terry again.
FFRBS, don't remember. intro has him getting smacked around the whole place by krauser.

That was lame Sado. Terry's Hogan routines ain't inspirational, otherwise Krauser'd still be around. Read up on them again if you have to. Those beatings inspired Alex & Sean to keep training. You already know this shit.

bull. FF1 beating andy made him come after him. Geese also was inspired to train harder and beat him. same with duck king and Bob. same with Krauser who came after him in Kof96 and FFRB2. same also applies to Rock who worships terry...and all the children in South town.
fail.

Yeah it is. Ryu's damn near irreplaceable by some new guy. Truth. Terry's not. Truth. Kyo shows up & next thing you know he's selling all this merchandise & shit & then he's the main man in crossovers. Has Alex been in any crossovers yet? As a headliner? I expect to see Kyo as SNKs main guy in x-overs. You will never expect to see Alex as Capcom's guy in one. Alex doesn't have "it".

they never pushed alex. obviously. kyo got pushed cuz they made him the new guy by taking the spotlight from bogard. alex only got shitstomped. if kyo came and lost to terry and had rugal job him.....he'd be like alex. truth.

Thought he was taking Duke's place

when geese died (notice this is mi timeline) duke took over after much gangwars. alba then beat him and took over the ganglands.

We really don't know what happened in SF2. That's all there is to it unfortunately.

cuz ryu gets to run wild on 'em 😆

1st. Wasn't Terry TRAINED by TFR or his useless pop to begin with?

not really. Jeff never got to properly train them cuz they were too young. he got them when they were 5 yo. how much do you think they could've trained as less than 10 yo. TFR never trained them. he only taught jeff.

Then he practices his art on the bums in Southtown. He don't need to train if he fought as much as you say. That's "on-the-job" training as it is. Terry is not a natural like Ken, Kyo, & Rock are.

looking through the fliers, terry trained "rigorously on the streets of south town" because he decided to build his skills "on the streets". that pretty much sums it up.
funny. while ken trained officially for 10 years, is said to train at home deligently AND train his son and pupils....................he's more natural than terry who does none of this 😐
......fail.

He only seems to dish it out to the bosses after taking a BEATING FROM THEM THOUGH. That's the routine

FF1. just beat geese down after a hellish fight.
FF2. countered krauser's trumpcard with his own in a decisive clash of powers.
FFRB. a decisive clash of powers again.

from the looks of it, its obvious that the fights were horribly even till the end. why? because both he and his opponent were pushed to the point of using their greatest attacks. fail.

~Sado
P.S. let me look up the link.............again 😠

Oh and adding to the why Kyo replaced Terry:

in the beginning, Kyo didn't click with the fans. When they did the feild testing of the game to see which character generates the most response, Terry and Ryo still took the cake. Then KoF95 happened and then Iori took all the spotlight becoming and instant hit with the fans. By kof96 they didn't have a choice but to remake Kyo and give him new moves so that he could actually become popular with the fans. That's what i mean by "making the new hero take over". Kyo didn't click, and so they worked on his story, gave him new moves and a personality makeover. as opposed to Alex, who despite having a niche, got pissed on instead of replacing hogan.....and even shat on him in his own game by making him lose perfect and win the tourny cuz the badguy had a mancrush on him.
that's the pispoor writing and hoganwanking you can only expect from Capcom.

~Sado

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Gouki>>>All FF badguys. 🙂
Well...duh...

Akuma Sends his foes straight to HELL...

"Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars."

while I have nothing to post...

Ryu vs Terry Bogard

YouTube video

Originally posted by Sado22
Oh and adding to the why Kyo replaced Terry:

in the beginning, Kyo didn't click with the fans. When they did the feild testing of the game to see which character generates the most response, Terry and Ryo still took the cake. Then KoF95 happened and then Iori took all the spotlight becoming and instant hit with the fans.
~Sado

Ditto and it's been downhill for Terry ever since.

Originally posted by Sado22
sorry, bro, if that felt like a shot to the nuts. but i didn't mean it in the racist way it was a joke.
no offense intended 🙁
It's cool
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

he is one of the planner who design Ryu and then he's the executive producer of AOF. is there any other person stated created a design for SF and AOF? no. it's only Finish Hiroshi. do you know someone who created megaman? it was stated. he is Keiji Inafune. your dodging is obvious. here is some links for you.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458859/
http://www.arcade-history.com/index.php?page=person&name=Finish+Hiroshi

you want to admit it or not it's up to you. but now it's your turn to tell me who is the creator of SF and AOF. you called him ripoff so it means you already know who created them. give me the links, and the name of the creators. if you can proof he is a ripoff, it's over.

Nah. Burden of proof is on you. Oly tried this shit too. You said they were created by the same person/people, you have to prove it. None of the shit you posted seems to mention Ryu AND ripoff. Fail. Like I said, find somebody taking credit for Ryu & then find the same guy/guys taking cred for Suckassaki. "ripoff" is my opinion, don't gotta prove anything. I just look @him & that's enough. You're trying to get me to just assume they created them. Not gonna happen.
Originally posted by Sado22
its actually good that brain revived this thread. cuz of him i got to look at old as shite battle flyers, official prologues and even re-read some of the faqs.
Everything I do is good. You obviously haven't been paying attention.
Originally posted by Sado22
not only did that clear out lots of things but also made Geese look better. he loses to Terry in FF1, then regains all his power to get back at Terry in FFRB where he pushes Terry long and hard enough for Terry to do the triple geyser on him...and even that didn't kill him, he only lost his balance and fell off the building, was way too badass to allow terry to save him....and actually laughed at him all the way to his death. THAT is badass.
So he jobs once. Comes back and jobs all over again via clumsiness? Damn 🙁

Originally posted by Sado22
Fatal Fury badguys>>>>>>>>Street fighter badguys
Fail. Gouki would shitstomp the FF badguys. Probably even if they jumped him.
Originally posted by Sado22
Geese>Bison. not only did he make the number1 fighter of South Town look like shit (official prologues officially stated Jeff as South Town's strongest fighter), but actually pushed the hero to his limits both times, never chickened out from anyone and always clobbered anyone who was a tier below him. Bison never beat anyone worth mentioning, lost most of his fights, got oneshotted by the hero without magic steriods, and his grand comeback was him dying without even a fight.
He ran from ripoff(1 person that was a guy who Geese was clearly superior to)& he had help in that. His lackey saved him from more damage & Geese didn't protest about the stoppage. That's vintage bit<h!!!.
Originally posted by Sado22
Krauser>Bison. not only did Krauser push terry to his limits but he managed to do so while not actively training. on top of that he took on midtiers and lowtiers of his series in handicap matches and crushed them all easily. he did what baddies do: he beat the weak ones and looked cool. and his great comeback was actually beating Terry. Bison got oneshotted by ryu and ran away from lowtiers and losers. heck, he even lost to Rose one-on-one and nearly died...and his great comeback was a horrible failure and even more pathetic than his origin.
The weak ones he faced were likely a lot weaker than the dolls. Did he fight these weaklings 13 @a time? If he didn't this is pointless.
Originally posted by Sado22
oh yeah. not only do they push the heros to his limit but also crush lowtiers and midtiers, walk around looking cool and don't pussyout to anyone....at least not lowtiers. and they don't let the hero win either 😐 and when they plan a comeback they atleast manage to look good without embarrassing themselves.
Honestly, letting the hero win like Gill did lets you look way more powerful than those who try their hardest to beat the hero & always fail like Krauser & his clumsy stepbrother. We know for a fact that the jobber bros. can't beat Terry, but it looks like the only way Alex would ever beat Gill is if Gill let him. Geese & Krauser wanted to beat Terry but couldn't. Geese/Krauser = incompetent. Gill wanted to lose & did. Gill = success 🙂 Fighting, getting hit w/a move & then clumsily stumbling off a tower isn't embarrassing? To be honest, everything I've seen looks like he just got knocked out the tower. I haven't seen anything w/him just losing his balance.
Originally posted by Sado22
used again? FFWA came out AFTER FFRB.
fail.
What? You said the original story 4 their 1st scrap had him fall out the tower & then they retconed it right? Then you said they had him fall out the tower the last time they fought. Wouldn't that mean these @ssholes used something, retconned it, & then used it again?
Originally posted by Sado22
what has anyone done in SF that continues over? Chunli? Guile? Sagat? Sakura? Dan? blanka? Cody? Guy? akuma? Adon? Karin? Sodom? Vega? Cammy?
stop clutching at straws, mane. not cool.
HorribleSakura helped Ken hold off Bison. Sagat held off P-Ryu. What have any of the FF slotfillers done that mattered? If it's about the 3 of them, how come it's always Terry winning in the end & not Andy or Joe? All 3 of them shoulda been in MOTW or none of them should have been. &everything I see seems to say Hungry wolf, not hungry wolves. You sure 'bout this?
Originally posted by Sado22

P.S. let me look up the link.............again 😠
OK.
Originally posted by Sado22
Oh and adding to the why Kyo replaced Terry:

in the beginning, Kyo didn't click with the fans. When they did the feild testing of the game to see which character generates the most response, Terry and Ryo still took the cake. Then KoF95 happened and then Iori took all the spotlight becoming and instant hit with the fans. By kof96 they didn't have a choice but to remake Kyo and give him new moves so that he could actually become popular with the fans. That's what i mean by "making the new hero take over". Kyo didn't click, and so they worked on his story, gave him new moves and a personality makeover

Source?

Nah. Burden of proof is on you. Oly tried this shit too. You said they were created by the same person/people, you have to prove it. None of the shit you posted seems to mention Ryu AND ripoff. Fail. Like I said, find somebody taking credit for Ryu & then find the same guy/guys taking cred for Suckassaki. "ripoff" is my opinion, don't gotta prove anything. I just look @him & that's enough. You're trying to get me to just assume they created them. Not gonna happen.

I told you to tell me who is the real creator of SF and AOF. you called them a ripoff so it means you already know who are they. if can't or you don't want to tell me then don't say anything because you accuse Ryo is a ripoff without any proof. he is the 1 of the designer of design team designer of SF characters and he is the only one mentioned. where's the other?. call me again if you have a proof about Ryo is the ripoff.

FAIL!!! You are a copout. You also need to rephrase the part you bolded. I don't get what you're trying to say. I can call ripoff a ripoff all day. It's opinion. I never stated it as fact so I don't have to prove shit. I always said he was either a ripoff or just a stupid rehash of a good idea. You said that the creators were the same and you stated it as the truth. Now prove it or admit you can't. Your copout is transparent as hell. You are the 2nd person I've went thru this bullshit with. Spare me.

FAIL! then tell me the other person other than Hiroshi!! Hiroshi was involved in both of the series. first he was a planner and next he become a executive producer. tell me one of the other of SF planner. I need facts and not a baseless opinion just like what you did. just admit you don't know who are they.

Did I ever even imply I knew who they were? foolFail. Ask yourself "Does the shit I posted prove that Ryu/ripoff were created by the same person/people or does it just prove a couple of guys worked on both games & leave the rest up to assumption?" Exactly. FAIL!!!!!!! You seem to be another guy who doesn't know what the word "proof" means. 🙁 Get some proof that proves what you were asked to prove or admit you can't. If you're not gonna do either, let's just move on. I'll not be going thru this bullshit again.

Originally posted by I-Drop
Did I ever even imply I knew who they were? foolFail. Ask yourself "Does the shit I posted prove that Ryu/ripoff were created by the same person/people or does it just prove they worked on both games?" Exactly. FAIL!!!!!!! You seem to be another guy who doesn't know what the word "proof" means. 🙁

don't change the subject! I told you he was a planner and then he was a E Director. if you think they can't proof it to you then why don't you proof it yourself? give me the links and their names. I told you before, I need facts and not a baseless opinion just like what you did. FAIL^2.

I didn't change shit. 😂 You are trying to put this on me but it won't work. I'm not going to do your job for you. I don't have to prove anything. The original task was for you to prove that Ryu/ripoff were created by the same people. Have you done that? Don't say anything but an answer to the question. That's all I'm willing to read. Have you proven that Ryu/ripoff were created by the same person/people? Yes or No?

I've done everything I know. you still haven't answered my question about any other people who designed SF and the facts he is the only one mentioned in SF planner and later he became AOF E director. whether you want to believe it it's up to you. it seems Sado, Olympian can't proof it to you because you always trying to deny it. you called Ryo ripoff just because of your opinion? then you can have your opinion and your hate toward Ryo forever. and once you can proof he's the real ripoff, it's over.

😂 Is that your way of saying "no"? Don't get frustrated w/me just because I expect your proof to prove something & not just lead to assumptions

what do you mean? ah, the part where you can have your opinion? no matter how much I'm trying to proof it to you, you always deny it. then it's pointless to proof it to you.

So you admit you tried & failed. Cool! You're not the 1st to fail @this & it's mature of you to admit it. Now we can move on 😄

you always dodge me and my question when I'm trying to ask you who are the other designer of SF. the real failure is come to you.

I haven't attempted anything. How could I fail? If you had proven what you'd been trying to prove, you wouldn't feel the need to question, son. If you had proven what you'd been trying to prove, you'd have simply answered "yes" when I asked you if you've proven it. You wanna know who else designed SF? Go look for it. I don't know & I honestly don't care. All I care about is you finding proof that Ryu and ripoff were created by the same people. You didn't.....(cue the big James Earl Jones voice)....AND YOU FAILED!!!!! FAILED! FAAAAAIIILLLED! You notice how nobody's come in here & said "that proves it!" after reading your shit? Quit wasting post space, mane.

I'll sum it up :

1. answer my question and my statement.
2. give me the links from your questions
3. if you can't proof it, FAIL^4!

I told you, if you can proof he's a ripoff, it's over. it's over when you already proof it.