Ryu vs Terry Bogard

Started by Sado2245 pages

Last time I checked it didn't matter who made who, if the 2nd guy is Xactly like the 1st guy...he's still a rip/shoto clone.

not when the "original" character was made with the same inspirations (Hokuto no ken and Dragon Balls Z). lets do the math now: ripoffA designed by person who then makes another ripoffB is not a ripoff of ripoffA but ripoff of original thing. last i checked ripoff's don't have ripoffs....probably the reason why Capcom FAILED to win something off SNK. turns out, the judge actually had a brain.

not to mention, game planners are the designers who:
-plan the game
-supervise the design of the game (that is, they tell the artist what they want made and the artists goes and makes it).

I'm surprised you guys can't wrap your heads around such a simple subject. talk about letting your hatred get the better of you 🙄

~Sado

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Wait, so B Cuz the guy who made Ryu left Capcom and worked for the rival company and then made the same guy again 4 the rival company...Ryo is not a rip off?

Last time I checked it didn't matter who made who, if the 2nd guy is Xactly like the 1st guy...he's still a rip/shoto clone.

no. both of them are made by the same person. finish Hiroshi was a planner and then he became an E director. he planned everything on that game so it means designs are included and no one would ripped off his own idea.

Wouldn't be too sure about that

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
actually this topic is for Ryu vs Terry Bogard. but it seems I have to finish this first.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458859/

as you can see, this site stated that "Finish" Hiroshi is the planner of the first SF. and when I check from he credit :

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/a/sf.htm

he's the only one who planned SF. that means he was the one who organized the entire game along with character design, music, background and planned everything on it. he also make the rest of the casts worked for him except Piston Takashi(direction) who direct the entire project.

later, both of them leave Capcom after the production of SF1, and they were employed by SNK. no surprise here if AOF is quite similar to SF1 since Finish Hiroshi is the executive director for this game as it was stated by my first link. and it was stated to by street fighter wikia :

http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Street_Fighter

Finish Hiroshi is an executive director for this game(AOF). since he was involved as a planner of SF and later he was an E director of AOF so it means he managed and directed everything from that game including planning and design. once again, no surprise if Ryo is quite similar to Ryu.

my job is to proof Ryo is not a ripoff. and I hope that's all proof you everything.

P.S : you can laugh at me for making a long statement about a game while it doesn't benefit me at all. and... so what if my english sucks? you want to laugh? you want to joke about that? do whatever you wish.

😂 You still on that? I only did it 'cuz you were acting foolish. That VGmuseum page you linked to also lists several people under "character design". Look @it. Thus far all that's been proven is that the planner & director left to make games featuring ripoff. What about the character designers? I'll wait & see what else you have, but it's starting to seem like you're well on your way to proving ripoff Suckassaki IS a ripoff 😄

your brain must be damaged or something since you don't even understand this. change your name into brainchild and then use your brain again. 😂

Hiroshi was a planner. so he planned the character design, etc. one of his job was he told the deisgn team to design what kind of character he want : a main character with karate gi, etc.

Nah. I think the designers made characters & he approved them or something. What's the distinction between director & planner anyway? You actually know this shit for certain or are you just assuming again? You still haven't proven Ryu & ripoff were created by the same person/people. Try again.

Originally posted by Sado22
probably the reason why Capcom FAILED to win something off SNK. turns out, the judge actually had a brain.
I don't think they tried to win anything in court from SNK. They just created Dan 'cuz they knew ripoff was destined for failure IIRC. They never saw AOF as a threat. You may be thinking about Fighters History.

Originally posted by I-Drop
Nah. I think the designers made characters & he approved them or something. What's the distinction between director & planner anyway? You actually know this shit for certain or are you just assuming again? You still haven't proven Ryu & ripoff were created by the same person/people. Try again.

you'll make me a good lawyer one day... 😂

it seems you missed a point. Hiroshi was a planner. not an "approver". he can't just approve anything without Piston's guide as a direction. his job is a planner. and as Sado said before, planner's jobs are plan the game and supervise the character design, music, background, etc. yap, he's in charge of the design too.

and as a director, he is a person who is in charge of significant creative aspects of a video game (in this case : AOF). take a look at Hideo Kojima who directed metal gear series. he's someone who have the idea of metal gear's character, plot, etc. the same goes to Finish Hiroshi. one more thing, street fighter wikia even stated this :

Street Fighter was directed by Takashi Nishiyama (who is credited as "Piston Takashi" in the game) and planned by Hiroshi Matsumoto (credited as "Finish Hiroshi"😉, who both previously worked on the overhead beat 'em up Avengers. The two men would leave Capcom after the production of the game and were employed by SNK, developing most of their fighting game series (including sequels to Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting). A strong similarity is evident between Street Fighter and these early SNK fighting games.

Hiroshi was involved in AOF and SF. no wonder if both of these games are quite similar in term of design. besides, capcom is not the owner of karate gi and karate style... 😬

they made dan AFTER the lawsuit didn't win them squat.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Wait, so B Cuz the guy who made Ryu left Capcom and worked for the rival company and then made the same guy again 4 the rival company...Ryo is not a rip off?

Last time I checked it didn't matter who made who, if the 2nd guy is Xactly like the 1st guy...he's still a rip/shoto clone.

LOL...

That's like Square never merging wit Enix, the character designer of FF7 leavin Square to join Enix and then create Zack for Dragon Quest and then say cuz the same guy made Cloud that Zack isn't his Cloud's ripoff even tho the characters represent 2 different companies and franchises.

Ditto

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
you'll make me a good lawyer one day... 😂

it seems you missed a point. Hiroshi was a planner. not an "approver". he can't just approve anything without Piston's guide as a direction. his job is a planner. and as Sado said before, planner's jobs are plan the game and supervise the character design, music, background, etc. yap, he's in charge of the design too.

and as a director, he is a person who is in charge of significant creative aspects of a video game (in this case : AOF). take a look at Hideo Kojima who directed metal gear series. he's someone who have the idea of metal gear's character, plot, etc. the same goes to Finish Hiroshi. one more thing, street fighter wikia even stated this :

Hiroshi was involved in AOF and SF. no wonder if both of these games are quite similar in term of design. besides, capcom is not the owner of karate gi and karate style... 😬

Seen this stuff b4. Let me know when you prove that either of these guys created Ryu & ripoff.
Originally posted by Sado22
they made dan AFTER the lawsuit didn't win them squat.
You sure? Heard about them suing Data East, but not SNK

yup. 100% sure. its probably there on Tiamat also but your lazy ass is gonna check it out for itself 😠

I-drop is like Superman. Any time he's got to really argue his case who disappears from the world and goes to the "fortress of terry hate" 😆

😖leep: 😖leep: 😖leep:

Originally posted by Sado22
I-drop is like Superman. Any time he's got to really argue his case who disappears from the world and goes to the "fortress of terry hate" 😆
😂 Fuk you. I got classes & shit mane. Don't compare me to Supes & it's not my fault Terry's story is a redundant dickeating mess & his fights have the same formula.
Originally posted by Sado22
yup. 100% sure. its probably there on Tiamat also but your lazy ass is gonna check it out for itself 😠
As soon as you put up that link you said you'd put up. I've been on a few sites just now & they all say Capcom never sued SNK. They never needed to. Ripoff/AOF (people have actually asked me if riopff was Ken 😄 ) was destined to fade into obscurity & SNK went belly-up

Originally posted by I-Drop
So basically the morons running the FF story had no creativity & had Geese fall from the tower twice & then retconned on of 'em out? They suck for recycling that shit. Booooo!
So if they brought Geese back again they'd have him fall out the tower again & just retcon the last time he fell out the tower. That sux!!!

Originally posted by Sado22
I-drop is like Superman. Any time he's got to really argue his case who disappears from the world and goes to the "fortress of terry hate" 😆
Superman is more badass than Jin will ever be.

Superman is more badass

stop right there or the universe will explode 😐

Fuk you. I got classes & shit mane. Don't compare me to Supes & it's not my fault Terry's story is a redundant dickeating mess & his fights have the same formula.

😂 i forgot no one deserves to be compared to that idiot. not even you.

As soon as you put up that link you said you'd put up. I've been on a few sites just now & they all say Capcom never sued SNK. They never needed to. Ripoff/AOF (people have actually asked me if riopff was Ken) was destined to fade into obscurity & SNK went belly-up

what sites? Read up on Dan and his origins. that's where he comes in really. and fuk you too, i got classes and shit myself 😠

~Sado

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ryu 😆

Originally posted by Sado22
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ryu 😆

*facepalm

who the hell created these story?

Originally posted by Sado22
stop right there or the universe will explode 😐
I'm serious.

Dark-Jaxx just destroyed the world 🙁

*facepalm

*reversal into an armbar toss* 😠

~Sado