Superman vs. Darkseid

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You do realize that there is only one DS. Any Alternate showing of DS is fair game.

Hasn't Supes beat Darkseid?

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
Hasn't Supes beat Darkseid?

darkseid is not in a fight.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You do realize that there is only one DS. Any Alternate showing of DS is fair game.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Really? So then the instance of Batman dodging the OE through pure speed/agility in JLU is fair game?

Originally posted by panthergod
I'm going to remember that you said this, Astro. 😂

Keep in mind, that is one showing; I'm not saying that this is the norm.

But I don't think there can be any denying that the Radiant's energy blast would have been more powerful than the one Darkseid levelled against Doomsday (Which, according to the text, wasn't his most powerful anyway).

Nevertheless, a straight loss for Darkseid there.

Originally posted by panthergod
Since Superman is more powerful than any GL, as the most powerful GL attested, again, you're wrong.

Weak argument.

We've heard gum flapping like this all the time, including Supes saying that Hal was more powerful than the rest of the JLA combined.

Who are you? Jelly?

Originally posted by quanchi112
u dont have the right to call anyone a troll. if its anyione its u. u called him a cocksu---when he is just making a point. u get so outta control and insult people while ur sitting there getting so mad at thi vs type stuff. ur pathetic that u let this stuff affect ur mood. get a life please. and quit calling people names for statng their opinions.

in hunter prey when darkseid lost to doomsday was that real or retconned later. ??????

all DS losses were retconned to be avatars.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
all DS losses were retconned to be avatars.

And Thanos looked scared shitless when he saw Adam Warlock's ghost. What's your point?

Originally posted by starking
And Thanos looked scared shitless when he saw Adam Warlock's ghost. What's your point?

Not as bad as being afraid of Yuga khan. Atleast Ds has the father son clause as an excuse and he planned his way out of that situation. Thanos is supposed to be a badass, but he gets turned into stone by a friggin ghost.

Darkseid beats the hell out of superman 10/10.

haha give me a ****ing break! in OWAW, darkseid knocked supes down in 3 hits.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he was shocked. i mean he killed him once and his ghost comes after him. cheap if u ask me but then again u have to be to beat thanos. it was stated on panel that darkseid was afraid of yuga khan. it was stated. thanos was shocked becuz he killed him once while darkseid well fled him once.

shocked is about the same as fear. he feared adam warlock because he didn't know he was capable of coming back from the dead.

and what does thanos haft to do with this fight? stay on topic.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
all DS losses were retconned to be avatars.

Not true.

Originally posted by Desaad
Not true.

yur right. the real darkseid did lose once to superman thanks to PIS writing by jeff loeb.

Originally posted by quanchi112
more than once.

u mean actually defeating darkseid? no.

i don't care if u think it's canon, but that doesn't make it good writing.

Originally posted by TheGame17
yur right. the real darkseid did lose once to superman thanks to PIS writing by jeff loeb.

No, the Avatar retcon didn't retcon ANYTHING specifically. It said that his avatars were physically defeatable, implying that the real Darkseid was not, but he's a VILLAIN. Of course he is going to pump himself up.

If we got specific scenes showing certain fights being avatars...okay. Believable. Even a word from Darkseid..."As in the case of the creature Doomsday" or something. Its been done before, in v2 (His battles with Superman during Legends and the Dr. Fate's WERE retconned), it could have been done again.

In spirit, I agree that the retcon was sort of meant to paint Darkseid in the unbeatable light, but it wasn't specific enough to be used in debates.