Originally posted by starkingso all superman wins over more powerful beings dont ocunt now. so dc is a farce to u. supermans wins agiant more powerful beings dont count according to u. 😕
So now that Superman only has two wins against Darkseid, and Darkseid has beaten beings more powerful than Superman, then Superman should still be powerful enough to take Darkseid. BULLSHIT.
Originally posted by Rewmaccosigned. its not even that he just beat darkseid i mean he crushed him. supes pissed equals darkseid in the source wall. if i were darkseid i wouldnt anger supes cuz when he does he loses as of late. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
Enraged Supes already gave him a beating. But in the comics he can win. But on KMC Supes looses.
Originally posted by quanchi112
so all superman wins over more powerful beings dont ocunt now. so dc is a farce to u. supermans wins agiant more powerful beings dont count according to u. 😕
No. It's just that in a straight up fight Supes doesn't really have a chance.
Feats and past history have shown that Superman simply can't take on people at Darkseid's level without help.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaosnot as of late. supes beat him one on one for steels life. no help no nothing. so in the past its been this way but not anymore. supes has owned him badly and humiliated as stated in the book.
No. It's just that in a straight up fight Supes doesn't really have a chance.Feats and past history have shown that Superman simply can't take on people at Darkseid's level without help.
Originally posted by quanchi112
not as of late. supes beat him one on one for steels life. no help no nothing. so in the past its been this way but not anymore. supes has owned him badly and humiliated as stated in the book.
DS still has far far greater feats that Superman does. And he retains a winning record.
By the logic you're using Firelord would be about street level 😬
Originally posted by quanchi112Maybe it happened in the books but that doesn't mean automatically that he wins on KMC too. On KMC under forum rules unwritten forum rules he Clark looses badly.
not as of late. supes beat him one on one for steels life. no help no nothing. so in the past its been this way but not anymore. supes has owned him badly and humiliated as stated in the book.
Originally posted by quanchi112This isn't Shc, where you debate on portrayals, this is kmc. Here we use a character's powerset to determine the outcome of a fight. Do you honestly think a being who can absorb god's powers, destroy the Anti-monitor's physical form, create a skyfather level being, depower the young justice busting Secret, scare the Guardian's of the universe and the Lords of Chaos, and pwn Dr.Fate, should lose to Superman?
cosigned. its not even that he just beat darkseid i mean he crushed him. supes pissed equals darkseid in the source wall. if i were darkseid i wouldnt anger supes cuz when he does he loses as of late. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by starkingyes as i have stated. nothing is usually 100 percent of the time. i have stated that darksied on average should beat superman, but superman pissed off and up against the odds kicks ass, and always has. when he is enraged he is twice as scary. the lossed count. superman is capabale of beating darkseid.
This isn't Shc, where you debate on portrayals, this kmc. Here we use a character's powerset to determine the outcome of a fight. Do you honestly think a being who can absorb god's powers, destroy the Anti-monitor's physical form, create a skyfather level being, depower the young justice busting Secret, scare the Guardian's of the universe and the Lords of Chaos, and pwn Dr.Fate, should loss to Superman?
Originally posted by starking
This isn't Shc, where you debate on portrayals, this is kmc. Here we use a character's powerset to determine the outcome of a fight. Do you honestly think a being who can absorb god's powers, destroy the Anti-monitor's physical form, create a skyfather level being, depower the young justice busting Secret, scare the Guardian's of the universe and the Lords of Chaos, and pwn Dr.Fate, should lose to Superman?
There tends to be more than just powerset involved . . .
And even if you did go by portrayals DS is still more powerful.
Dakrsied Is way too versatile for someone like Supes. He's recently gave enough power to make Kaliback gto kick the crap out of his half brother, who many consider to be superior to Superman. With the exception of Loeb and Casey, there arent very many writers who see Superman and Darksied on equal footing. IMO its as absurd as comparing thor to Odin.
Originally posted by quanchi112That's why it's called pis. In a large majority of Darkseid's appearence's, he has been portrayed as far more powerful than Superman. The only reason Ds has lost to Supes, is he's Dc's poster boy. Say what you want, but that can't be taken seriously.
yes as i have stated. nothing is usually 100 percent of the time. i have stated that darksied on average should beat superman, but superman pissed off and up against the odds kicks ass, and always has. when he is enraged he is twice as scary. the lossed count. superman is capabale of beating darkseid.
Originally posted by starkingsays u. dc will always be supermans stomping ground. that is where dc screws up. superman does whatver he wants all the time. so deal with it it will happend many more times. its how dc well does their comics. its how they roll. marvel doesnt place emphasis on one guy as dc does.
That's why it's called pis. In a large majority of Darkseid's appearence's, he has been portrayed as far more powerful than Superman. The only reason Ds has lost to Supes, is he's Dc's poster boy. Say what you want, but that can't be taken seriously.
Originally posted by Rewmac
Enraged Supes already gave him a beating. But in the comics he can win. But on KMC Supes looses.
But that's fallacy, since we can only debate using what the comics themselves give us.
This is exactly what i'm talking about.
PIS = Picking Individual Showings I Don't Like.
This has got to stop.
Originally posted by quanchi112It's pis, Ds has been portrayed in a large majority of his appearances, to be greater than Supes in power. I hope you don't count Superman beating Despero.
says u. dc will always be supermans stomping ground. that is where dc screws up. superman does whatver he wants all the time. so deal with it it will happend many more times. its how dc well does their comics. its how they roll. marvel doesnt place emphasis on one guy as dc does.
Originally posted by UniOmnicosigend a million percent thank u. these people on here think their personal opinions count as opposed to the writers. i have never been laughing to hard.
But that's fallacy, since we can only debate using what the comics themselves give us.This is exactly what i'm talking about.
PIS = Picking Individual Showings I Don't Like.
This has got to stop.
Originally posted by UniOmni
But that's fallacy, since we can only debate using what the comics themselves give us.This is exactly what i'm talking about.
PIS = Picking Individual Showings I Don't Like.
This has got to stop.
Of course it would still be picking just the showings you like if you said that Superman is more powerful.
Originally posted by UniOmniOk then lets count Batman hurting the Spectre, Spider-man beating Firelord, Superman beating Despero, and of course, Silver Surfer lossing to Dracula.
But that's fallacy, since we can only debate using what the comics themselves give us.This is exactly what i'm talking about.
PIS = Picking Individual Showings I Don't Like.
This has got to stop.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaoshere is what i am saying, anyone who believes darksed can neevr lose to superman is wrong. it happend more than once. i still feel on avergae darkseid can and has beaten him. but anyone who only counts darkseids wins is biased.
Of course it would still be picking just the showings you like if you said that Superman is more powerful.