Predestination

Originally posted by Nellinator
Yes they can, making the answer: God is both.

Sorry, but two contradictory statements cannot both be true.

They don't contradict, they simply show two different things God is capable of and they build on each other.

Originally posted by Nellinator
They don't contradict, they simply show two different things God is capable of and they build on each other.

No, one states that God exists inside of time, and one states that God exists outside of time. Which is it?

They don't contradict, they simply show two different things God is capable of and they build on each other.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No, one states that God exists inside of time, and one states that God exists outside of time. Which is it?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Both, He exists outside of time while being able to work within time as we perceive it.

It is impossible to be both inside and outside of time simultaneously.

Guess thats why it's God. He is plastic enough to defy all logic, making him an indestructible possibility based on centuries of disillusionment.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
It is impossible to be both inside and outside of time simultaneously.

Originally posted by finti
so is it "eye for an eye or turn the other cheek", cant be both cause that would be a contradiction so........................

Originally posted by Nellinator
Says what? As God is omnipotent he can.

Do you realized how much ridicule this is going to bring?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Says what? As God is omnipotent he can.

If one has one foot inside of a room, and one foot outside of the room, he is neither inside or outside of the room.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Says what? As God is omnipotent he can.

Then stop saying that God can't. You see, God can lie, steal and do evil things.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If one has one foot inside of a room, and one foot outside of the room, he is neither inside or outside of the room.

Originally posted by Nellinator
No they are both, able to affect things both inside and outside the room.

To what degree can one affect the inside of the room, if only his foot is inside of it?

To what degree does one posess the characteristics of one who is outside of the room, if only his foot is outside of it?

The answer to both questions is to no degree at all.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
To what degree can one affect the inside of the room, if only his foot is inside of it?

To what degree does one posess the characteristics of one who is outside of the room, if only his foot is outside of it?

The answer to both questions is to no degree at all.

Unless you have a grenade launcher. 😉

Or metaphysical sciences............maybe.....

But then, this would be quite a different type god all together.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
To what degree can one affect the inside of the room, if only his foot is inside of it?

To what degree does one posess the characteristics of one who is outside of the room, if only his foot is outside of it?

The answer to both questions is to no degree at all.

If one concerns himself with eternity they are able to possess certain characteristics of one who is timeless. By being given eternal salvation I can possess certain qualities of God (ie. eternal life). Therefore, there is one effect of God inside of time from outside of time, from destruction to eternal and timeless life.

That assumes that your foot can transcend the wall. Physical objects are constrained by the fabric of spacetime itself.

However, supersymmetry can allow one to very significantly alter something else in another room.

Originally posted by Alliance
That assumes that your foot can transcend the wall. Physical objects are constrained by the fabric of spacetime itself.

However, supersymmetry can allow one to very significantly alter something else in another room.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I'm not familiar with this stuff, but since God is not physical does it really apply?