Originally posted by jinzin
not to mention the fact that these events would have never taken place if wolverine were 100%hell the guy lands 3 hits on pool before that even happened..
That's really irrelevant. What does Wolvie's healing factor have to do with Deadpool suckering him? Deadpool got the better of him, pure and simple. 😬
Jesus Christ. 😠
Read the damn issue people! In the page before the two posted Hulk is standing in front of the storefront when he punches Deadpool into the window, not to the right or the left but straight in front. WE CAN SEE HIM JUMPING IN THAT MASSIVE PANEL ON THE FIRST OF THE TWO PAGES THAT WHERE POSTED! It's right there, look at it. He is already in mid-leap when Deadpool sees the sign (should I explain how the transition between panels works and which ones to read, in which order?) on the panel that DIRECTLY FALLOWS THE ONE WHERE HULK JUMPS! What is so complicated?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deadpool didn't use strategy against Taskmaster(or... more accuratlely he didn't use and forethought), he did his random routine and busted out some dance moves... and it just happened to work.
I must disagree here. Sure, he used random moves and dances to defeat Taskmaster. But it was obvious that he quickly formulated this plan to do so. He realized that Tasky was imitating all of the moves that he saw Deadpool do. I mean, it wasn't that hard to pick up. Realizing this, DP decided to pull out moves that Tasky hadn't seen before, completely screwing over his ability to adapt in time. This, in addition with the whole catching Tasky offguard, is what won it for DP.
Strategy. Pure and simple.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I must disagree here. Sure, he used random moves and dances to defeat Taskmaster. But it was obvious that he quickly formulated this plan to do so. He realized that Tasky was imitating all of the moves that he saw Deadpool do. I mean, it wasn't that hard to pick up. Realizing this, DP decided to pull out moves that Tasky hadn't seen before, completely screwing over his ability to adapt in time. This, in addition with the whole catching Tasky offguard, is what won it for DP.Strategy. Pure and simple.
Strategy involves fore thought and planing, something which was not involved in that fight. He was getting his ass kicked, his normal fighting style was useless so he switched it up (common sense). Deadpool wasn't thinking in his head "Taskmaster has copied the fighting styles and abilities of all the most talented people on earth... but I know! Dancing will confuse him" By all accounts that shouldn't have worked, I doubt Deadpool was banking on it working, but it did. Deadpool doesn't plan what he is doing from one second to the next, he just acts on what ever random thought that comes into his head the very moment he thinks it.
The way you guys are using the word "strategy" is so lose that it can be applied to anything. "Oh, I noticed my opponent was overbalanced... so I punched him before he could regain him self! Strategy for the win!"
Originally posted by Alfheim
Right, so strategy never involves quick thinking?
Her is an example of quick thinking strategy. Marrow while getting thrashed by Sabretooth notices there is a water drainage pipe that she can use to BFR Sabretooth if she can get him close enough.
Deadpool realizing that Hulk can't changes his tragetory midair and moving a pipe into the postion where he is going to land is about as much of a strategy as realizing that you can stab someone with a knife.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Strategy involves fore thought and planing,
strat·e·gy
1. Also, strategics. the science or art of combining and employing the means of war in planning and directing large military movements and operations.
2. the use or an instance of using this science or art.
3. skillful use of a stratagem: The salesperson's strategy was to seem always to agree with the customer.
4. a plan, method, or series of maneuvers or stratagems for obtaining a specific goal or result: a strategy for getting ahead in the world.
The word Strategy has multiple uses and not just your very minimal definition of it. Deapool's actions fit these dictionary descriptions, now back to Wolverine vs Captain America.
I hope we are finished looking to split hairs on words here.
Originally posted by Soleran
strat·e·gy1. Also, strategics. the science or art of combining and employing the means of war in planning and directing large military movements and operations.
[b]2. the use or an instance of using this science or art.
3. skillful use of a stratagem: The salesperson's strategy was to seem always to agree with the customer.
4. a plan, method, or series of maneuvers or stratagems for obtaining a specific goal or result: a strategy for getting ahead in the world.The word Strategy has multiple uses and not just your very minimal definition of it. [/B]
It's right there in your list of definitions... you even put it in bold. The instance of using the art or science. I'd like to refer you back to the definition that came directly before the one you put in bold font... the one that says that the art/science involves planning...
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Time for common sense! 🙂Srank, how far do you think Deadpool was from the sign when he first noticed it?
I'd say between five and seven feet.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Strategy involves fore thought and planing, something which was not involved in that fight. He was getting his ass kicked, his normal fighting style was useless so he switched it up (common sense). Deadpool wasn't thinking in his head "Taskmaster has copied the fighting styles and abilities of all the most talented people on earth... but I know! Dancing will confuse him" By all accounts that shouldn't have worked, I doubt Deadpool was banking on it working, but it did. Deadpool doesn't plan what he is doing from one second to the next, he just acts on what ever random thought that comes into his head the very moment he thinks it.The way you guys are using the word "strategy" is so lose that it can be applied to anything. "Oh, I noticed my opponent was overbalanced... so I punched him before he could regain him self! Strategy for the win!"
...Really? This is the path in which you're heading? 😬
Quick thinking or months of preparation, it was strategy. He quickly devised a method (regardless as to whether or not it would work) that he believed would defeat Taskmaster. It worked.
Strategy. 😐
What is your problem with Deadpool anyway? You give him absolutely no credit whatsoever. Even with his obvious insanity, he can be quite clever when need be.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's right there in your list of definitions... you even put it in bold. The instance of using the art or science. I'd like to refer you back to the definition that came directly before the one you put in bold font... the one that says that the art/science involves planning...
Yes now reread everything I placed up there and open up your narrow view, you're being very pig headed.
The last highlighted incident also defines strategy and it applies to Deadpool. Find another way to dismantle a discussion because right now you look foolish.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's right there in your list of definitions... you even put it in bold. The instance of using the art or science. I'd like to refer you back to the definition that came directly before the one you put in bold font... the one that says that the art/science involves planning...
Oh....my....god...... 🙄
Originally posted by Soleran
Yes now reread everything I placed up there and open up your narrow view, you're being very pig headed.The last highlighted incident also defines strategy and it applies to Deadpool. Find another way to dismantle a discussion because right now you look foolish.
You know what I mean?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
...Really? This is the path in which you're heading? 😬Quick thinking or months of preparation, it was strategy. He quickly devised a method (regardless as to whether or not it would work) that he believed would defeat Taskmaster. It worked.
Strategy. 😐
What is your problem with Deadpool anyway? You give him absolutely no credit whatsoever. Even with his obvious insanity, he can be quite clever when need be.
I give credit where credit is due, not randomly and for no reason for the sole purpose of building up a character with characteristics that are totally foreign to their representation. He didn't devise anything, he just did it. If he isn't thinking a head and just randomly flowing from one move to the next on a whim then it isn't strategy.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I give credit where credit is due, not randomly and for no reason for the sole purpose of building up a character with characteristics that are totally foreign to their representation. He didn't devise anything, he just did it. If he isn't thinking a head and just randomly flowing from one move to the next on a whim then it isn't strategy.
Ah. I see.
So then, in your mind, not thinking ahead and just randomly flowing from one move to the next on a whim is not a strategy in itself then?
😉
Beast vs. Danger, anyone? 😎
Originally posted by Soleran
Yes now reread everything I placed up there and open up your narrow view, you're being very pig headed.The last highlighted incident also defines strategy and it applies to Deadpool. Find another way to dismantle a discussion because right now you look foolish.
Which one of those definitions did you feel didn't imply or directly state that planning and forethought was involved in startegy? 😕
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Ah. I see.So then, in your mind, not thinking ahead and just randomly flowing from one move to the next on a whim is not a strategy in itself then?
😉
Beast vs. Danger, anyone? 😎
It's a very useful fighting style/battle tactic especially for someone with Wade's attributes but is a specific fighting style a "strategy"? Every decision you make is going to based on something, and will have reasoning and merit behind it but if simply fighting the way you are most suited is a strategy then almost everything else is as well.
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
And he couldn't alter his momentum in mid-air?(This is going somewhere folks, don't worry)
... I suppose he could start waveing his arms franticly. With his massive strength, I guess that could... slow him down... or something.