Bane(with Orbalisks) versus Shimrra

Started by Lightsnake6 pages

Originally posted by allfg
Even if he has more, it's not by much. Bane was 'a mountain of muscle', was trained to use the force to augment his physical strength, was damn strong with the force, and thus could do this to great effect, and on top of all that, his orbalisk armour constantly keeps his muscles pumping and flexed, as well as strengthened, and the adrenaline and darkside energies constantly pumped into his body would make him all the more stronger. I highly doubt that Shimrra was even stronger period, and even if he is, it's not by much.

Are you mad? the greatest human is NOTHING....maybe HALF of the strongest Yuuzhan Vong...humans are relatively very weak physically to other alien races in SW. Moreover, Shimrra's been biologically enhanced to hell and back and he was far from average to begin with


Are you crazy? We've already been through this. Bane was able to move at speeds faster than the eyes of trained force users could see; so fast that it seemed like time had stopped for everyone else, and he was able to do it at the end of a long and tiring duel. This is before BotS, where he grows about ten times stronger with the force (the extent of force speed and strength in the force are pretty much directly proportional), and gains the orbalisk armour, which constantly pumps him with adrenaline, as well as darkside energies, and constantly strengthens his muscles, which would make him much faster.

Yeah, the same goes for Shimrra.
And stop lying: BOTS takes place right after PoD


Against Kas'im... Kas'im is pretty much the best lightsaber duelist ever, his mastery is too damn high for him to not have used Bane's disadvantage against an unfamiliar form against him, and this was before Bane grew much more powerful. It makes sense that Kas'im would have kicked his ass, in that situation, and he would have done the same to Luke.

Luke>Kas'im by a huge margin. Luke would absolutely butcher Kas'im in a straight fight. Can Kas'im defeat armies on practically his own? No.


False.

Says you


Means little if Bane just uses his superior skill to not allow Shimrra to use his weapon, and overpowers him in seconds.

This is funny


He can attack indirectly, and still use the force to augment his abilities.

Still won't be enough...nothing with the force effects the Vong unless you're on their level-Bane can't be


He can still use precognition.

Doesn't work with the Vong


Lumiya performed better against a stronger Luke under similar conditions. Can she defeat Bane? Is she even uber? Almost beating an exhausted and wounded Luke with every advantage there is on your side is really not that impressive; Bane would have tooled Luke in that position.

Actually yeah, she'd kick Bane's ass.

Luke was still fighting so hard his saber appeared as twenty moving at once...an exhausted Luke would still> 90 percent of the SW Galaxy

Are you mad? the greatest human is NOTHING....maybe HALF of the strongest Yuuzhan Vong...

Source and quote, please?

humans are relatively very weak physically to other alien races in SW. Moreover, Shimrra's been biologically enhanced to hell and back and he was far from average to begin with

1. Bane's as strong as a human can get; 'a mountain of muscle.'
2. He's trained to use the darkside to enhance his strength. He's incredibly strong with the force, he would be able to do this to incredible effect. I mean, think about how quick he was able to make himself with the force, I'm sure he'd be able to do the same to his strength to the same degree.
3. His orbalisk armour strengthens his muscles, and keeps them constantly pumped. They orbalisks also inject darkside energies into his body, which can be channeled into his muscles, and used to augment his strength even further. They also constantly pump Bane with adrenaline, which would make him even stronger.

Those are 5 different pieces of evidence pointing to Bane having strength on the next level, can you please provide actual proof that Shimrra's natural strength as well as the bioengineering compares? If anything, Bane's at least close to him in strength, and since when was strength the be all end all of versus matches?

Yeah, the same goes for Shimrra.

Elaborate. Passage. Quote. Page Number.

And stop lying: BOTS takes place right after PoD

I'm not lying, I didn't deny that it takes place straight after PoD, but the feat I'm referring to happens midway through PoD, about a year before BotS. And even then, Bane goes through a major power surge after receiving Nadd's holocron.

Luke>Kas'im by a huge margin. Luke would absolutely butcher Kas'im in a straight fight. Can Kas'im defeat armies on practically his own? No.

In a swordfight? Luke's probably only just better, and not by a huge margin. And did Luke defeat armies on practically his own? Source, and could you quote the passage it happens in, as well as supply a page number. And please elaborate.

Says you
This is funny

Erm, excuse me, but don't you have your own argument to get to? Quit being greedy Trousersnake, you have your argument, let Jolly Jimbo have his.

Still won't be enough...nothing with the force effects the Vong unless you're on their level-Bane can't be

Do you like actually not know how to read or something? Bane can still use the force to attack Vong with the surroundings, or just improve his own physical attributes with the force.

Doesn't work with the Vong

You moron, yes it does. Precognition is independent on Force Sense; a jedi not being able to sense a Vong's movements in no way affects their glimpses into the future.

Actually yeah, she'd kick Bane's ass.

LOL!

Luke was still fighting so hard his saber appeared as twenty moving at once...an exhausted Luke would still> 90 percent of the SW Galaxy

LMAO, I know what you're trying to say, but you do realise that that 10% leaves quite a lot of room for people who an exhausted Luke isn't stronger than, right?
Anyways, Bane would tool Luke under the conditions that he faced Shimrra and Lumiya, don't be ridiculous.

Originally posted by allfg
Source and quote, please?

1. Bane's as strong as a human can get; 'a mountain of muscle.'
2. He's trained to use the darkside to enhance his strength. He's incredibly strong with the force, he would be able to do this to incredible effect. I mean, think about how quick he was able to make himself with the force, I'm sure he'd be able to do the same to his strength to the same degree.
3. His orbalisk armour strengthens his muscles, and keeps them constantly pumped. They orbalisks also inject darkside energies into his body, which can be channeled into his muscles, and used to augment his strength even further. They also constantly pump Bane with adrenaline, which would make him even stronger.


bother to read the NJO, Guide to Alien species?

And wow...Vong still> Him because humans are never more than half the strength of Nom Anor, apparently


Those are 5 different pieces of evidence pointing to Bane having strength on the next level, can you please provide actual proof that Shimrra's natural strength as well as the bioengineering compares? If anything, Bane's at least close to him in strength, and since when was strength the be all end all of versus matches?

Wowiee....can he stand against the strongest of a strong race whose politicians exceed humans for power by twice as much when Shimrra's the strongest? How much IS Bane amplified, now?


Elaborate. Passage. Quote. Page Number.

Find
It.
Yourself.


I'm not lying, I didn't deny that it takes place straight after PoD, but the feat I'm referring to happens midway through PoD, about a year before BotS. And even then, Bane goes through a major power surge after receiving Nadd's holocron.

As that holocron no longer exists,-thanks PoD and Evil Never Dies!- no worries


In a swordfight? Luke's probably only just better, and not by a huge margin. And did Luke defeat armies on practically his own? Source, and could you quote the passage it happens in, as well as supply a page number. And please elaborate.

TUF, moron. Luke clears out most levels on his own. And Luke firmly pwns Bane. Sorry


Erm, excuse me, but don't you have your own argument to get to? Quit being greedy Trousersnake, you have your argument, let Jolly Jimbo have his.

Y'know, if you weren't so criminally stupid, this'd mean somethingg


Do you like actually not know how to read or something? Bane can still use the force to attack Vong with the surroundings, or just improve his own physical attributes with the force.

Sure he can. Sure he can


You moron, yes it does. Precognition is independent on Force Sense; a jedi not being able to sense a Vong's movements in no way affects their glimpses into the future.

Whoops, sorry. Never worked in the NJO


LOL!

Laughing at how much you fail? I quite agree


LMAO, I know what you're trying to say, but you do realise that that 10% leaves quite a [b]lot
of room for people who an exhausted Luke isn't stronger than, right?
Anyways, Bane would tool Luke under the conditions that he faced Shimrra and Lumiya, don't be ridiculous. [/B]

*yawn* Keep thinking it fanboy.
Luke owns Bane any day of the week. So do Palpatine, exar, Yoda, Mace, Kyp, Jacen, Jaina, Corran, Ragnos, Ulic, Nomi and probably others.

Go away

Ok, I'm done. Clearly such terms like 'elaborate' and 'source' have flown compeltely over your head, oh well. And again, I'm loving these nasty PMs. I mean really, do you not have anything better to do than constantly insulting me via PM?

Clearly things like 'you're not worth it' have flown over yours. You lie and twists sources as you see fit.

Noobaris, Lightsnake has better things to do than send you PMs. You already look like a fool with your shitty arguments, don't embarass yourself further by lying. And Lightsnake, physical manifestations of the force CAN affect the Vong, but I don't see this being a deciding factor against Shimrra.

Seriously though, putting all this N00baris BS aside, Shimrra crushes Bane. End of Story.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Seriously though, putting all this N00baris BS aside, Shimrra crushes Bane. End of Story.

Bot Bayne iz teh purfect! He iz teh moost powrfull Sithe ever!!!111!!!

Originally posted by Gideon
Bot Bayne iz teh purfect! He iz teh moost powrfull Sithe ever!!!111!!!
😱

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Noobaris, Lightsnake has better things to do than send you PMs. You already look like a fool with your shitty arguments, don't embarass yourself further by lying. And Lightsnake, physical manifestations of the force CAN affect the Vong, but I don't see this being a deciding factor against Shimrra.

No, No, actually I did PM him in pure anger and frustration, but that's neither here nor there.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't we seen force lightning simply arch away from the Vong?

No, No, actually I did PM him in pure anger and frustration, but that's neither here nor there.

LOL, you're actually admitting to getting angry over an internet forum?
L.O.S.E.R.

but haven't we seen force lightning simply not arch away from the Vong?

Corrected, you're wrong.

Lmao. I've never seen or heard from someone who was so unanimously hated by his entire environment. I mean, jeez, at least Hitler got respect for being a helluva an orator and "a great leader". You can't manage to get any respect on a frickin' internet forum.

From now on, the word "loser" will be used interchangably with "Noobaris".

Ex: Oh, Bob, you're such a Noobaris.

Ex #2: Well, some are born winners, and others are born Noobarises.

Ex #3: "Noobaris" by 3 Doors Down is a great song.

Force lightning DOES arch away from the Vong. It's the same effect that it would get from the ysalamari, so I don't know what youre babbling about clown. Keep in mind that we're talking about force lightning, not Luke's emerald shitstain.

Originally posted by Gideon
Lmao. I've never seen or heard from someone who was so unanimously hated by his entire environment. I mean, jeez, at least Hitler got respect for being a helluva an orator and "a great leader". You can't manage to get any respect on a frickin' internet forum.

From now on, the word "looser" will be used interchangably with "Noobaris".

Ex: Oh, Bob, you're such a Noobaris.

Ex #2: Well, some are born winners, and others are born Noobarises.

Ex #3: "Noobaris" by 3 Doors Down is a great song.

lolz, I'm better than you because I'm liked on the interweb!!!

Actually judging by your posts, I doubt you're even liked in real life, which is why you keep coming back here and getting pwned, after being banned over and over again.

Originally posted by allfg
Doesn't force crush, force push and all of those powers work by pushing the air particles towards your opponent at really high speeds?

And Rex: Bane, Luke, Kyp, Revan and Sidious as well as a few others have all displayed that kind of power without amulets and technology, and considering Bane was able to collapse the entire 20 foot tall Rakatan Temple with an attack, collapsing the ground beneath Shimrra wouldn't be too much of a stretch.

Um, no, not at all. It's not 'Force Wind,' it's a telekinetic power. When you manipulate something with the Force, you're manipulating the thing itself, not whisking it around with a miniature hurricane. Like I said, this isn't magic.

That's a building, a structure; all structures have weak points. The ground is not a structure, it is a solid, constant thing. Even if you dent the ground, there's more ground under it. Dig a few feet...still, more ground. Entirely different than collapsing a building.

Meanwhile, another warning to you for bashing and derailing this thread with personal vendettas...

Rex wtf are you smoking, we're all waiting for the ban.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Rex wtf are you smoking, we're all waiting for the ban.

I'm waiting for it like Christmas morning.

shimrra fcuks bane with his deformed demonised-d!ick