Originally posted by allfg
Even if he has more, it's not by much. Bane was 'a mountain of muscle', was trained to use the force to augment his physical strength, was damn strong with the force, and thus could do this to great effect, and on top of all that, his orbalisk armour constantly keeps his muscles pumping and flexed, as well as strengthened, and the adrenaline and darkside energies constantly pumped into his body would make him all the more stronger. I highly doubt that Shimrra was even stronger period, and even if he is, it's not by much.
Are you mad? the greatest human is NOTHING....maybe HALF of the strongest Yuuzhan Vong...humans are relatively very weak physically to other alien races in SW. Moreover, Shimrra's been biologically enhanced to hell and back and he was far from average to begin with
Are you crazy? We've already been through this. Bane was able to move at speeds faster than the eyes of trained force users could see; so fast that it seemed like time had stopped for everyone else, and he was able to do it at the end of a long and tiring duel. This is before BotS, where he grows about ten times stronger with the force (the extent of force speed and strength in the force are pretty much directly proportional), and gains the orbalisk armour, which constantly pumps him with adrenaline, as well as darkside energies, and constantly strengthens his muscles, which would make him much faster.
Yeah, the same goes for Shimrra.
And stop lying: BOTS takes place right after PoD
Against Kas'im... Kas'im is pretty much the best lightsaber duelist ever, his mastery is too damn high for him to not have used Bane's disadvantage against an unfamiliar form against him, and this was before Bane grew much more powerful. It makes sense that Kas'im would have kicked his ass, in that situation, and he would have done the same to Luke.
Luke>Kas'im by a huge margin. Luke would absolutely butcher Kas'im in a straight fight. Can Kas'im defeat armies on practically his own? No.
False.
Says you
Means little if Bane just uses his superior skill to not allow Shimrra to use his weapon, and overpowers him in seconds.
This is funny
He can attack indirectly, and still use the force to augment his abilities.
Still won't be enough...nothing with the force effects the Vong unless you're on their level-Bane can't be
He can still use precognition.
Doesn't work with the Vong
Lumiya performed better against a stronger Luke under similar conditions. Can she defeat Bane? Is she even uber? Almost beating an exhausted and wounded Luke with every advantage there is on your side is really not that impressive; Bane would have tooled Luke in that position.
Actually yeah, she'd kick Bane's ass.
Luke was still fighting so hard his saber appeared as twenty moving at once...an exhausted Luke would still> 90 percent of the SW Galaxy