Wonderwoman Vs. Silver Surfer

Started by qqqqqqq24 pages

Originally posted by basilisk
Storm's lightning >>>> Diana, since it KOed her (non-canon though).
Dr. Polaris' electrics >>>> Diana, because "Wonder Woman has a low tolerance for high-voltage electroshock therapy" (he proved his statement by KOing her with some) .
I'm sure SS can generate about 10000 times that juice.

Wonder Woman had a heart-attack and collapsed into a coma after over-exerting herself fighting. So she needs oxygen and could be deprived of it. Or SS could just fight until she collapses from exhaustion.

Turning the air in her lungs into poison (or something solid like steel) would be interesting. Or turning all the air around her into helium. I wonder if SS can do something like turn air into adamantium around her?

And WW was transmuted into an ape by gorilla city tech so she isn't immune to that sort of thing. I'm sure Surfer could do better than that tech - turn her into clay maybe.

can SS rape WW since he has no dick?

he could make one 15inches and teach her a lesson

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
can SS rape WW since he has no dick?

I'm pretty sure he's wearing briefs under that cosmic glaze.

Originally posted by h1a8
SS fans, please at least give her a stalemate due to her Aegis Shield block. Isn't that common sense?

The problem I'm having with accepting a stalemate (and I am tempted to do so) is that I'm being told what (eg) an Aegis Shield or her sandals or whatever can do, when I need to be shown what her equipment can do.

The only on-hand examples I have at the moment is her performance in OWAW, and frankly...it doesn't depict much that one could say (IMO) is Surfer-equivalent.

I'm gonna have to peruse Diana's respect thread for more (though I wouldn't be adverse if someone posted scans here to save me the trouble 😉 ).

To be continued...

Originally posted by Mindship
The problem I'm having with accepting a stalemate (and I am tempted to do so) is that I'm being told what (eg) an Aegis Shield or her sandals or whatever can do, when I need to be shown what her equipment can do.

I'm gonna have to peruse Diana's respect thread (though I wouldn't be adverse if someone posted scans here to save me the trouble 😉 ).

To be continued...

I come bearing gifts. These are the ones already posted earlier in the thread.

WW using the Godwave.

Using the Sandals of Hermes for interdimensional travel.

you see whats good going to come of it when she is turned to stone,bread,water,air,gold, or anything surfer can think of fight over he could even change her to being a normal person and then simply as@ rape her

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I come bearing gifts. These are the ones already posted earlier in the thread.

Much appreciated, considering how much there is in her Respect Thread.

I haven't come across anything yet depicting the power of the aegis shield (am I wrong to assume that it is her most powerful defense?), but I did notice that when she put on the gauntlet to increase her strength tenfold, she said it's hard for her to properly control all that power. This would seem to support my prior theory that Diana may not be able to wield all her gear properly...and this could well be the deciding factor for an SS win.

Keeping the above in mind, I could consider the following...
With no prep time (ie, no time to really learn how to use her full arsenal to maximum effect, only enough time to don her gear and zip off into battle), SS wins for reasons stated prior.

However: give her some time to train with all her stuff...then I can see a stalemate, especially since her gear is magically powered, and as much as I despise "magic" ( puke ) my impression from other threads is that magic is a more capable force than power cosmic because it's completely and totally outside even comic physics.

Perhaps I'm not fully appreciative of the power of my own favorite character either, but I am trying to see this battle objectively and fairly because it is an interesting set of circumstances.

Golden Girdle of Gaea, The divine Lasso, Sandals of Hermes, Gauntlets of Atlas, Lansinar Disc, Complete Golden Armor, Sword of Hephaestus, Labrys, Aegis shield, Bracelets of Victory, Godwave, etc,,,.

Does a charachter need these many plot devices to make them interesting? Its almost as though DC gives WW more and more crap so that she can compete with the top tiers every year or so.

Sorry, she's a lame charachter that cant even hold her own solo series down and should die to the Surfer everytime.

Originally posted by tkitna
Golden Girdle of Gaea, The divine Lasso, Sandals of Hermes, Gauntlets of Atlas, Lansinar Disc, Complete Golden Armor, Sword of Hephaestus, Labrys, Aegis shield, Bracelets of Victory, Godwave, etc,,,.

Does a charachter need these many plot devices to make them interesting? Its almost as though DC gives WW more and more crap so that she can compete with the top tiers every year or so.

Sorry, she's a lame charachter that cant even hold her own solo series down and should die to the Surfer everytime.


OMG Marvel gives it's entire universe more and more lame plot devices than anyone. The cosmic cubes, the IG, the Un, The Heart of the universe, and blah blah blah.

Originally posted by lionking
you see whats good going to come of it when she is turned to stone,bread,water,air,gold, or anything surfer can think of fight over he could even change her to being a normal person and then simply as@ rape her

But she can't be transmuted, so she doesn't have to worry about that. And Surfer can't and has never transmuted people.

And WW wins. She's given to many power ups for this match.

does the cosmic cube still exist?

its been missing for some time now

Originally posted by dvampire
But she can't be transmuted, so she doesn't have to worry about that. And Surfer can't and has never transmuted people.

And WW wins. She's given to many power ups for this match.

Silver Surfer modulates Wonderman’s ionic energy, basically screws with WW body.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...;postid=5205229

SS cocoons Daredevil and Spiderman in solidified energy, wondering why, when he could faze them into nothingness.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7568/stones5hz.jpg

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
Silver Surfer modulates Wonderman’s ionic energy, basically screws with WW body.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...;postid=5205229

?????

Originally posted by Mindship

Perhaps I'm not fully appreciative of the power of my own favorite character either, but I am trying to see this battle objectively and fairly because it is an interesting set of circumstances.

go back right now and read all 19 pages of the SS thread

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
?????

You posted a link to the main KMC forum page instead of a scan.

😐

Originally posted by Scoobless
You posted a link to the main KMC forum page instead of a scan.

😐

yeah, i was going to say that too

Originally posted by dvampire
But she can't be transmuted, so she doesn't have to worry about that. And Surfer can't and has never transmuted people.

And WW wins. She's given to many power ups for this match.


I'm not necessarily averse to her winning (there's no fun if your character wins everything), but remember: this is bloodlusted Surfer, full potential, no-holds barred. Virtually everything he's done in the past is no precedent for what he'd be capable of now.

The more I learn about WW, the more interesting this match-up becomes. Kiddos, Board Walker.

oh sorry

Silver Surfer modulates Wonderman’s ionic energy, basically screws with WW body.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5205229

SS cocoons Daredevil and Spiderman in solidified energy, wondering why, when he could faze them into nothingness.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7568/stones5hz.jpg

Rule 1: Only feats shown in canon comics can be proof to a character's ability in a fight.
This implies that if one has never shown a power or ability in comics that is specific in a fight then that power don't exist for them.

Rule 2: The ability to travel at a certain speed through hyperspace doesn't imply that one can move and react at a similar speed in a fight.

Theorem1: SS isn't fast enough to dodge Diana's attacks.
Proof: SS has never shown faster than Diana can attack reflexes ever.
But has shown to constantly get hit by speeds that are equally fast or slower than Diana (Such as Thor, Hulk, Spiderman, thrown rocks, etc.).
Thus by rule 1 and 2 SS isn't fast enough to dodge Diana's attacks.

Theorem2: Diana can easily cut his head off.
Proof: By theorem 1 she will land a blow to him in a fight (instantly killing him due to decapitation).

Theorem3. SS cannot harm her in the process of their fight.
Prove: 1) SS can either try to blast her (for a various effect), 2) physically attack her, 3) or affect her immediate surroundings.
1) and 2) will be ineffective due to her speed and reflexes (FTL) which she has by rule 1).
3) will be ineffective to to her constant motion in the fight (she wont stay in the same place for too long).

Theorem3: Diana wins over SS
Proof: By theorem 1 and 2