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Originally posted by h1a8
SS has no fighting speed. Those scans prove nothing. I constantly see him get hit by beings such as Hulk all day long. Show me where he has awesome enough [B]fighting speed and reflexes to dodge diana's attacks. Because as far as I seen as that every time he is in a fight he lacks even decent reflexes and speed. Don't show any travel speed feats because these have nothing to do with fighting. And understand that is SS much weaker in an atmosphere than space. And know also that if I can travel FTL doesn't mean I have FTL reflexes too nor does it explain how long does it take me to reach a certain travel speed. That is to say, that in human perception it might seem that SS can instantly obtain FTL speed but in Diana's perception it takes a millinium for SS to gain enough speed to be beyond her perception. Thus you can't compare traveling speeds to fighting speeds.I never claimed IW is faster than Thor. Reflexes is based off sight (such as blocking bullets) and not hearing. You can have poor hearing but great reflexes. You can only attack after the bell. While the bell is ringing then she is getting her shield up (In which she can do instantaneously). If you disagree then at least understand that hearing a bell and responding is much different than seeing something and reacting (and planning before the bell is allowed-this takes away the thought time of getting her shield up).
And Thor throwing his hammer fast has nothing to do with its startup time. He hasn't ever showned to instantly throw his hammer (without any time taking place). Most of the time he whirls it first (building up speed) before throwing. And sue blocking lasers and bullets may be PIS (It happened far too many times though) but it is feasible that this can happen since her very being (molecular) was altered. She is no longer human. So assuming that she must respond in human speed is faulty. Many people here base this solely off of her still looking human and still having human strength (Which is stupidness). Yet she has proven time and time again to have much faster reflexes than a normal human.
And lastly, for SS to manipulate matter he must first blast a beam to whatever he wants to manipulate. The power must come out of him towards the object. Even that is moot since Diana's gear and her very being has been proven to resist matter transmutation (through magic though). She is highly resistant. [/B]
Again you haven't shown Diana doing anything whatsoever fast enough to connect with Surfer. A millennium? Based on? The power of exaggeration?
So you're trying to assert that despite that Surfer has displayed the ability to move both his entire body and his limbs in a controlled manner at FTL, he doesn't have equal reactions. So when he flies at FTL speeds he's flying blind. Diana has also been hit by beings slower than her. That doesn't negate that she also has superspeed.
You claimed that Sue would attack Thor first, i.e. faster.
Reflexes is based off perceiving and reacting to sensory stimuli, be it visual or aural. I have no idea why you're trying to say hearing has nothing to do with reflexes.
What bell? The figurative "bell" that means that when a fight has no prep it just starts straight away. Even if one assumes it's a literal bell, Thor still has better reactions, can swing and throw the hammer FTL, and Mjolnir has broken through her forcefields before even if she could get it up before he did anything - which she wouldn't.
Assuming she has FTL reflexes based on "reacting to lasers" is folly; Wolverine, Spider-Man, Captain America and Daredevil do not have FTL reflexes. It's never been stated anywhere that IW gained superhuman reflexes from her transformation by cosmic radiation.
A blast is always needed? Matter manipulation is a psionic power.
