Wonderwoman Vs. Silver Surfer

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
To traveling physically through space.
The Godwave will burn her out. The Medusa's head is plausible. To connect with someone you have to be able to catch them.
Same way Captain America dodging lasers in zero gravity isn't him moving faster than light. Lasers job to everyone. Period. They may as well issue a statement saying that comic lasers don't move at light speed. It's not a good "feat" to say she can move superluminally.

I'll take the middle chunk into consideration but I'm still not particularly seeing it.

That's all for now. Partly because I can't be bothered. Partly because I'm too tired to ponder physics and the speed of cognition. Partly because I'm not particularly adverse to WW winning anyway. And partly because I'm bored of the thread. 🙂

Who cares if the Godwave burns her out? surfer would be koed.
Nobody jobs to lasers in comics. Using evasive action is not dodging off of reflexes. Spidey even uses precog so that isn't even his reflexes. Heck, I can even evade bullets (If I'm lucky 😆 ). And if I were a ninja with cap's body speed and strength I might can evade some lasers too (Just move the hell out the way before they fire).

WW wins due to either Godwave or Medusa Head.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And partly because I'm bored of the thread. 🙂

I close with this...
Without time for WW to prep: SS wins (the case has not been made to the contrary).
(With prep: I could see WW winning. However, prep was not part of this thread).

Originally posted by Mindship
There is a lot I could respond to, given all the posts since my last one. But when proof is ignored (eg, insisting the guantlets of atlas increase invulnerability when clearly -- there it is, in black-and-white in the scans -- it says no such thing); or when statements like, "Now spiderman does have FTL reflexes" are made; or I'm being told I said things that -- again, there it is, in black and white -- I never said (eg, "WW not being able to land a punch on surfer"😉; clearly, it is time to move on.

I close with this...
Without time for WW to prep: SS wins (the case has not been made to the contrary).
(With prep: I could see WW winning. However, prep was not part of this thread).

What are you talking about? I clearly gave examples of the guantlet of atlas increasing invulnerability. Hell the GUANTLET OF ATLAS. ATLAS is known for his invulernability. It gives Captain Marvel his invulnerability in the same DCU. Wonder Girl survived the doomsday clones punch specifically becuz the guantlet increased her invulnerability. and DIANA commented on it. CLEARLY IN BLACK AND WHITE the guantlet increases invulnerability. Check it out starting in Wonder Woman 111

Originally posted by Mindship
There is a lot I could respond to, given all the posts since my last one. But when proof is ignored (eg, insisting the guantlets of atlas increase invulnerability when clearly -- there it is, in black-and-white in the scans -- it says no such thing); or when statements like, "Now spiderman does have FTL reflexes" are made; or I'm being told I said things that -- again, there it is, in black and white -- I never said (eg, "WW not being able to land a punch on surfer"😉; clearly, it is time to move on.

I close with this...
Without time for WW to prep: SS wins (the case has not been made to the contrary).
(With prep: I could see WW winning. However, prep was not part of this thread).

eh???

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
eh???

Yeah I said it WW+ 10/10.
SS don't even have 1 damn showing where he dodges a superfast attack while in combat. He constantly throughout his history has been pummel by so called "slow attacks".
I would rather believe that Aunt May can beat LT before I believe that SS won't get physically hit by Diana or at least by the Godwave or Medusa. This isn't even a good fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yeah I said it WW+ 10/10.
SS don't even have 1 damn showing where he dodges a super-fast attack while in combat. He constantly throughout his history has been pummel by so called "slow attacks".

Originally posted by h1a8
I would rather believe that Aunt May can beat LT before I believe that SS won't get physically hit by Diana or at least by the Godwave or Medusa. This isn't even a good fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
What are you talking about?
This is not regular WW vs. SS.
She can either block or dodge every one of his attacks.

Originally posted by h1a8
What is SS going to do when she cuts off his head?

Originally posted by h1a8
turn him to stone?

Originally posted by h1a8
Or Aegis shield God Waves him?

Originally posted by h1a8
Or lasso's him??

Originally posted by h1a8
SS is the one that needs prep.

Originally posted by h1a8
WW+ 10/10

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Originally posted by Priest
wow u must not know shit about Surfer.
Surfer dodging Thor Mjinor throws (Thor can Thor mjinor at light speeds.)
http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3086193fq.jpg
http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3086206zi.jpg
easily dodges meteor shower while scanning the universe for the grandmaster.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Avengers_Annual_16-18.jpg
Surfer will have problems dodging Diana so-called "super-fast attacks" she cant even travel light speeds.

Haha, Surfer will turn her into stone before Diana pulls out the head of Medusa. besides that surfer has complete control of his molecules, transmution wont work on him buddy.

Please, Diana isn't flash.
lets see if she can dodge surfer moving like this, he travels half a million light years in a moment
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-006.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-007.jpg
I doubt she would be able to tag Surfer moving this fast.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_06.jpg

her tiara can cut superman because superman is weak against magic. Surfer has durability that can match anyones. Diana on the other hand Durability is very questionable, can she survive a black hole after surfer creates one under her feet?

when has she ever matter manipulated? like i said before, surfer cant be transmuted. Surfer turns her into stone. He can also devolve her into a ape.

God Wave doesn't last that long. If she decides to use it, surfer shrinks himself down and escapes to the micro-verse, until she done.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-19a.jpg

doubt she would even be able to catch him if he's flying at warp speeds.
if she does, he phases thru the rope.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1996_123_10.jpg

no WonderWoman needs prep.

Please don't make me laugh.
Surfer has to many options,
he can speed blitz her at speeds that can warp time ans space.
he can transmute her.
he can mess with her DNA, and devolve her.
he can take her out using TP.
or just pummel her with PC blasts.

WW is good but come on seriousely against SS? she cant win to me its like flash vs SS, SS has to much at his disposal to end the fight at will, the only thing that WW has that will hurt SS is the GW and even that takes time to summon if you were to say WW vs SS where SS jus sits there like a moron and gives her time to do her best then no question SS is toast but since thats not the case, then WW has no chance here. priest your right SS is to much for WW

Originally posted by tiakocom
WW is good but come on seriousely against SS? she cant win to me its like flash vs SS, SS has to much at his disposal to end the fight at will, the only thing that WW has that will hurt SS is the GW and even that takes time to summon if you were to say WW vs SS where SS jus sits there like a moron and gives her time to do her best then no question SS is toast but since thats not the case, then WW has no chance here. priest your right SS is to much for WW

Originally posted by h1a8
Yeah I said it WW+ 10/10.
SS don't even have 1 damn showing where he dodges a superfast attack while in combat. He constantly throughout his history has been pummel by so called "slow attacks".
I would rather believe that Aunt May can beat LT before I believe that SS won't get physically hit by Diana or at least by the Godwave or Medusa. This isn't even a good fight.

Agreed. And Surfer doesn't have super fighting speeds, it's all fanboys wishful thinking. If he really did have those reaction, he wouldn't be getting his butt beaten half to death by Thor (which was stated to be faster than Surfer and who is slower than Spiderman) and Thanos.

WW wins this, if this was WW without all the equipment, then i would give it to Surfer.

Originally posted by Priest
👆 Yeah Diana is getting way too much credit then wat she deserves in this match up.
Honestly i would feel Hal Jordan can as well beat diana with all her gear.

Surfer is getting way to much credit.

Originally posted by dvampire
Agreed. And Surfer doesn't have super fighting speeds,
Still dosent stop Sufer from blitzing her.
it's all fanboys wishful thinking.

Originally posted by dvampire
If he really did have those reaction, he wouldn't be getting his butt beaten half to death by Thor (which was stated to be faster than Surfer and who is slower than Spiderman) and Thanos.

Originally posted by dvampire
WW wins this, if this was WW without all the equipment, then i would give it to Surfer.

Originally posted by Priest
There is only a minute amount of people who has replied that Diana can win. Diana wining 10/10 agaist freaking surfer is fanboyish on anyones part.

🙄 so u think Spidermans speed >Surfer's speed.
please dont down play Surfer just because on one event. I have aleady proven that Surfer has nano second reaction time that is equvalent to flash. Btw Thor is faster than Spiderman

do u even read other people's post that don't agree with your opinion?

Agreed. And Surfer doesn't have super fighting speeds, it's all fanboys wishful thinking. If he really did have those reaction, he wouldn't be getting his butt beaten half to death by Thor (which was stated to be faster than Surfer and who is slower than Spiderman) and Thanos.

WW wins this, if this was WW without all the equipment, then i would give it to Surfer.

And yes I think Spiderman's and Thor's REACTION speeds > Surfer's. If they were just flying in a straight line, then yes I'll go with Surfer. Surfer has never shown fast fighting/reflexive speeds, it has never happened; we know this because characters like Thor and Thanos is always pummeling him to death.

Originally posted by Priest
wow u must not know shit about Surfer.
Surfer dodging Thor Mjinor throws (Thor can Thor mjinor at light speeds.)
http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3086193fq.jpg
http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3086206zi.jpg
easily dodges meteor shower while scanning the universe for the grandmaster.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Avengers_Annual_16-18.jpg
Surfer will have problems dodging Diana so-called "super-fast attacks" she cant even travel light speeds.

Haha, Surfer will turn her into stone before Diana pulls out the head of Medusa. besides that surfer has complete control of his molecules, transmution wont work on him buddy.

Please, Diana isn't flash.
lets see if she can dodge surfer moving like this, he travels half a million light years in a moment
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-006.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-007.jpg
I doubt she would be able to tag Surfer moving this fast.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_06.jpg

her tiara can cut superman because superman is weak against magic. Surfer has durability that can match anyones. Diana on the other hand Durability is very questionable, can she survive a black hole after surfer creates one under her feet?

when has she ever matter manipulated? like i said before, surfer cant be transmuted. Surfer turns her into stone. He can also devolve her into a ape.

God Wave doesn't last that long. If she decides to use it, surfer shrinks himself down and escapes to the micro-verse, until she done.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-19a.jpg

doubt she would even be able to catch him if he's flying at warp speeds.
if she does, he phases thru the rope.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1996_123_10.jpg

no WonderWoman needs prep.

Please don't make me laugh.
Surfer has to many options,
he can speed blitz her at speeds that can warp time ans space.
he can transmute her.
he can mess with her DNA, and devolve her.
he can take her out using TP.
or just pummel her with PC blasts.

Not only is Thor throwing the hammer at the speed of light not very credible but it doesn't imply he didn't miss SS in that scan (SS is in constant motion as well as Thor-it seems that the hammer inadvertantly missed).

And buddy you missed all the previous posts earlier in this thread.
They prove that surfer able to travel FTL doesn't imply that he has FTL reflexes (but only faster than human reflexes). Second, you know nothing about the head of Medusa. It magically holds you into stone.
It is so powerful that skyfather beings who also have complete control over their body are not immune to the head. Once SS is completely stone there is no coming back. For his very being is stone and no longer has its powers of matter manipulation (or any powers whatsoever).

This battle depends on the size of the battlefield and where it is. If the battlefield is the size of the universe then Diana can never catch him (provided he can achieve a speed faster than Diana before she catches him). But if it is the size of a domed football field then she Godwaves him, uses Medusa's head or cuts his head off ( if Diana can catch him-like many other slowy's did).

The previous posts also proved that SS cannot transmute her.
There were several reasons for this. One was the fact that she can dodge or block any attack made by Surfer (can even bounce his own attack at himself). And know she has not only a tiara but a sword (both of which can cut him in half). Get that superman weak to magic stuff outta here. Magic had nothing to do with something that can cut through anything anyway. Plus SS is weak to magic too (look at his bio and history).

And as far as Surfer speed. It has shown that SS is weaker in an atmosphere (his speed is even slower- if they're in an atmosphere that is). Also, it takes him time to reach a certain speed (especially warp speed-just look at the scan). How do you know that he can instantly be faster than Diana before she can hit him? He's been hit before (millions of times). Has SS ever dodged a punch or kick before (especially from Diana's speed)?

Surfer cannot escape to the microverse for that is leaving the battlefield.
And it is arguable that he can perform this feat faster than the Godwaves come out or cut him to ribbons.

And every thing the surfer does (except fire blasts) takes an infinite amount of time to do (in Diana's mind). You act like she will just sit there and eat popcorn watching him perform on her.

And SS has a very limited form ot TP. He can only communicate with it and nothing more. Plus Diana is highly resistant (not immune) to it anyway.

Wait, did anyone really implied Diana would win this?

It never stops in surprising me.

Originally posted by olympian
Wait, did anyone really implied Diana would win this?

It never stops in surprising me.

not Diana but Diana with all her stuff (Godwave and all).
Depends on what the battlefield is though.

Originally posted by dvampire
Agreed. And Surfer doesn't have super fighting speeds, it's all fanboys wishful thinking. If he really did have those reaction, he wouldn't be getting his butt beaten half to death by Thor (which was stated to be faster than Surfer and who is slower than Spiderman) and Thanos.

WW wins this, if this was WW without all the equipment, then i would give it to Surfer.

And yes I think Spiderman's and Thor's REACTION speeds > Surfer's. If they were just flying in a straight line, then yes I'll go with Surfer. Surfer has never shown fast fighting/reflexive speeds, it has never happened; we know this because characters like Thor and Thanos is always pummeling him to death.

Where was Supermans fast fighting speed when The Annointed One killed him in The Obsidian Age?

Originally posted by h1a8
Not only is Thor throwing the hammer at the speed of light not very credible but it doesn't imply he didn't miss SS in that scan (SS is in constant motion as well as Thor-it seems that the hammer inadvertantly missed).

And buddy you missed all the previous posts earlier in this thread.
They prove that surfer able to travel FTL doesn't imply that he has FTL reflexes (but only faster than human reflexes). Second, you know nothing about the head of Medusa. It magically holds you into stone.
It is so powerful that skyfather beings who also have complete control over their body are not immune to the head. Once SS is completely stone there is no coming back. For his very being is stone and no longer has its powers of matter manipulation (or any powers whatsoever).

This battle depends on the size of the battlefield and where it is. If the battlefield is the size of the universe then Diana can never catch him (provided he can achieve a speed faster than Diana before she catches him). But if it is the size of a domed football field then she Godwaves him, uses Medusa's head or cuts his head off ( if Diana can catch him-like many other slowy's did).

The previous posts also proved that SS cannot transmute her.
There were several reasons for this. One was the fact that she can dodge or block any attack made by Surfer (can even bounce his own attack at himself). And know she has not only a tiara but a sword (both of which can cut him in half). Get that superman weak to magic stuff outta here. Magic had nothing to do with something that can cut through anything anyway. Plus SS is weak to magic too (look at his bio and history).

And as far as Surfer speed. It has shown that SS is weaker in an atmosphere (his speed is even slower- if they're in an atmosphere that is). Also, it takes him time to reach a certain speed (especially warp speed-just look at the scan). How do you know that he can instantly be faster than Diana before she can hit him? He's been hit before (millions of times). Has SS ever dodged a punch or kick before (especially from Diana's speed)?

Surfer cannot escape to the microverse for that is leaving the battlefield.
And it is arguable that he can perform this feat faster than the Godwaves come out or cut him to ribbons.

And every thing the surfer does (except fire blasts) takes an infinite amount of time to do (in Diana's mind). You act like she will just sit there and eat popcorn watching him perform on her.

And SS has a very limited form ot TP. He can only communicate with it and nothing more. Plus Diana is highly resistant (not immune) to it anyway.

I completely agree

Originally posted by h1a8
Not only is Thor throwing the hammer at the speed of light not very credible but it doesn't imply he didn't miss SS in that scan (SS is in constant motion as well as Thor-it seems that the hammer inadvertantly missed).

Originally posted by h1a8
They prove that surfer able to travel FTL doesn't imply that he has FTL reflexes (but only faster than human reflexes).

Originally posted by h1a8
Second, you know nothing about the head of Medusa. It magically holds you into stone.
It is so powerful that skyfather beings who also have complete control over their body are not immune to the head. Once SS is completely stone there is no coming back. For his very being is stone and no longer has its powers of matter manipulation (or any powers whatsoever).

Originally posted by h1a8
This battle depends on the size of the battlefield and where it is. If the battlefield is the size of the universe then Diana can never catch him (provided he can achieve a speed faster than Diana before she catches him). But if it is the size of a domed football field

Originally posted by h1a8
then she Godwaves him,

Originally posted by h1a8
uses Medusa's head or cuts his head off ( if Diana can catch him-like many other slowy's did).

Originally posted by h1a8
The previous posts also proved that SS cannot transmute her.

Originally posted by h1a8
And know she has not only a tiara but a sword (both of which can cut him in half). Get that superman weak to magic stuff outta here. Magic had nothing to do with something that can cut through anything anyway. Plus SS is weak to magic too (look at his bio and history).

Originally posted by h1a8
And as far as Surfer speed. It has shown that SS is weaker in an atmosphere (his speed is even slower- if they're in an atmosphere that is). Also, it takes him time to reach a certain speed (especially warp speed-just look at the scan). How do you know that he can instantly be faster than Diana before she can hit him? He's been hit before (millions of times). Has SS ever dodged a punch or kick before (especially from Dianas speed)?

Originally posted by h1a8
And it is arguable that he can perform this feat faster than the Godwaves come out or cut him to ribbons.

Originally posted by h1a8
And every thing the surfer does (except fire blasts) takes an infinite amount of time to do (in Dianas mind). You act like she will just sit there and eat popcorn watching him perform on her.

Originally posted by h1a8
And SS has a very limited form ot TP. He can only communicate with it and nothing more.

Originally posted by h1a8
Plus Diana is highly resistant (not immune) to it anyway.