Wonderwoman Vs. Silver Surfer

Started by dvampire24 pages
Originally posted by UniOmni
Where was Supermans fast fighting speed when The Annointed One killed him in The Obsidian Age?

What the heck does Superman have to do with this battle?

Do you even have a scan of this fight? And is this current Supes you're talking about?

Where was Surfer fast fighting speed period? He's never shown it, atleast Supes has it.

Originally posted by Priest
If you know anything about Thor, you would know that thor has incredible aim when wielding the Mjinor. He's a god, and has thousands of years of experience using his weapon. besides that surfer if the Mijnor cant tag surfer when moving around what makes u think Diana can tag him 😕 . I think ur blowing up Dianas speed a little much. its like ur debating about flash's speed and reflexes, Diana's not that fast, superman is faster than her.

I have provided scans of surfer out maneuvering very fast projectiles.
(e.g. meteor storm, one meteor can travel 42 km/sec, i also showed that surfer has nano second reaction time) Sufer can dodge Dianas attacks.

[B]Surfer blitz her before she pulls the head out. She probally would be blind folded leaving her very vunerable.

Who says that this battle take place in a foot ball field? 😕

Which wont happen because it take took long to conjure up. she gets blitz.

Which wont happen because Dianas would be very vulnerable with her eyes covered. Also surfer can reach her in plenty of time before she has actually pull the Medusa head out of the bag. Trust me Surfer can reach her in time read the Infinity Guantlet, the issue when surfer trys to snag the IG from thanos.

He still can mess with her DNA. Devolving her works for me.

Superman is known to weak against magic, please just because she can cut superman doesn't mean she would able to cut surfer, your putting superman on a high pedestal. BTW Surfer has fought Mephisto, Mepshisto Magic>>>>> Skyfather Magic. Surfer isn't weak against magic than most people think. Tiara ain't cutting Diana.

Travels the world in less time it takes Strange to finish is sentance.
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2589/sspeed4tq.png
Surfer is plenty more faster than Diana in earths atmosphere.

Godwave takes way too long, Surfer would of ended the battle before he has time to pray for it.
whats stopping surfer from TPing her while she's praying?

Ok kid, Surfer can think and act in superspeed. Again your downplaying surfer's abilities with your "infinite amount of time". Surfer will be the one eating popcorn while Diana' s praying for a god wave. Last time i check she's not always grantes the GW, so that option of accessing in may not even work.

He can Attack her using TP
Here's surfer defeating a psonic entity with telepathic bolt
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p17.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p18.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p21.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p22.jpg

Exaclty she's not immune to it, Surfer's TP would be more than enough to at least keep ther form focusing on conjuring a GW.
Dianas not beating surfer.
Why?
Using the Medusa head would leave Diana highly vunerable, Surfer is not gonna Stand there while she's Blind Folded and wait for her to pull the head out of her purse. A bloodlusted surfer has the speed to exploit this vulnerability or her's.
The God wave is not going to work either, Diana needs time to pray for the thing( her prayers may not even be answered), he can't just access in instant. Surfer would already have used TP to mindrape her, or at the least confuse the hell out of her. Or he'll biltz her to oblivion.
Surfer manipulate her DNA for the win.
He can open blackholes under her, her durability is very questionable, doubt she can survive that.
Or just pummel her with infinite amounts of planet PC destroying blast. [/B]

I"m looking at your post about WW and it seems you don't know anything about the character. First off, The Sandle's of Herme's boost the weareres Speed to an nth degree. 2ndly the guantlet of Atlas boost her invulnerability so much that Surfer speed blitzing her would mean the big donut since surfer can't hurt Thanos and she would be in the same league as Thanos with her guantlet on. Third, Surfer isn't manipulationg her DNA when Circe, A goddess who is far more powerful than Surfer, cannot. She has already survived a black hole. SO I know for damn sure you dont' read wonder woman it's very apparant. And The Godwave doesn't take along time to call. in one panel she ask for it in a prayer that is mental and thus only take less than a second, the next, she has it. Of course you think surfer would win this tho, look at your sig. your not biased or anything. LMAO p.s. WW is immune to TP. It's part of her powerset being the Avatar of Truth. Go pick up a WW book or two before you argue about her please. One last thing, ur arugment is faulty and weak, According to the OP diana gets the Godwave, so your silly argument saying she may not get it is stupid becuz it's already been stated that she gets to use it.

Originally posted by Priest
If you know anything about Thor, you would know that thor has incredible aim when wielding the Mjinor. He's a god, and has thousands of years of experience using his weapon. besides that surfer if the Mijnor cant tag surfer when moving around what makes u think Diana can tag him 😕 . I think ur blowing up Dianas speed a little much. its like ur debating about flash's speed and reflexes, Diana's not that fast, superman is faster than her.

I have provided scans of surfer out maneuvering very fast projectiles.
(e.g. meteor storm, one meteor can travel 42 km/sec, i also showed that surfer has nano second reaction time) Sufer can dodge Dianas attacks.

[B]Surfer blitz her before she pulls the head out. She probally would be blind folded leaving her very vunerable.

Who says that this battle take place in a foot ball field? 😕

Which wont happen because it take took long to conjure up. she gets blitz.

Which wont happen because Dianas would be very vulnerable with her eyes covered. Also surfer can reach her in plenty of time before she has actually pull the Medusa head out of the bag. Trust me Surfer can reach her in time read the Infinity Guantlet, the issue when surfer trys to snag the IG from thanos.

He still can mess with her DNA. Devolving her works for me.

Superman is known to weak against magic, please just because she can cut superman doesn't mean she would able to cut surfer, your putting superman on a high pedestal. BTW Surfer has fought Mephisto, Mepshisto Magic>>>>> Skyfather Magic. Surfer isn't weak against magic than most people think. Tiara ain't cutting Diana.

Travels the world in less time it takes Strange to finish is sentance.
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2589/sspeed4tq.png
Surfer is plenty more faster than Diana in earths atmosphere.

Godwave takes way too long, Surfer would of ended the battle before he has time to pray for it.
whats stopping surfer from TPing her while she's praying?

Ok kid, Surfer can think and act in superspeed. Again your downplaying surfer's abilities with your "infinite amount of time". Surfer will be the one eating popcorn while Diana' s praying for a god wave. Last time i check she's not always grantes the GW, so that option of accessing in may not even work.

He can Attack her using TP
Here's surfer defeating a psonic entity with telepathic bolt
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p17.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p18.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p21.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p22.jpg

Exaclty she's not immune to it, Surfer's TP would be more than enough to at least keep ther form focusing on conjuring a GW.
Dianas not beating surfer.
Why?
Using the Medusa head would leave Diana highly vunerable, Surfer is not gonna Stand there while she's Blind Folded and wait for her to pull the head out of her purse. A bloodlusted surfer has the speed to exploit this vulnerability or her's.
The God wave is not going to work either, Diana needs time to pray for the thing( her prayers may not even be answered), he can't just access in instant. Surfer would already have used TP to mindrape her, or at the least confuse the hell out of her. Or he'll biltz her to oblivion.
Surfer manipulate her DNA for the win.
He can open blackholes under her, her durability is very questionable, doubt she can survive that.
Or just pummel her with infinite amounts of planet PC destroying blast. [/B]

Bottom line is, SS isn't speed blitzing Diana, until you can show me a Scan of SS speed blitzing Thor, your point is moot and is nothig but speculation.

But unlike your speed blitzing speculation, what is true and backed up by decades of proof, is the fact that SS has horrible battle reflexes and horrible battle speed.

Yes he can dodge asteroids, and yes he can speed blitz space dinosaur fodder, but has he ever speed blitzed a major opponent such as Thor, or Thanos, or Quasar, or anyone else who has speed and reflexes that are FTL? No he has never once done so in his entire comic career.

SS biggest weakness is Magic, and Diana is loaded with it.

And finnaly, SS isn't transmuting Diana or anything in Diana or on Diana, show me a scan of SS trasmuting Thor or Dr. strange, then your claims wont be purely speculative.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I"m looking at your post about WW and it seems you don't know anything about the character. First off, The Sandle's of Herme's boost the weareres Speed to an nth degree.

Give me a wonderwoman Speed feat with her sandles, and ill will top with surfer's speed.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
2ndly the guantlet of Atlas boost her invulnerability so much that Surfer speed blitzing her would mean the big donut since surfer can't hurt Thanos and she would be in the same league as Thanos with her guantlet on.

Warrior Maddness Thor w/ Power gem is on thanos's level if strength. Wonder Woman with her guantlets is not as strong as that version of Thor, meaning she is still not as strong as Thanos.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Third, Surfer isn't manipulationg her DNA when Circe, A goddess who is far more powerful than Surfer, cannot.

Has Circle accually tried to manipuilate her DNA? He probally has the power too but never tried it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
She has already survived a black hole.

she survived it, maybe, but how was she after?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SO I know for damn sure you dont' read wonder woman it's very apparant. And The Godwave doesn't take along time to call. in one panel she ask for it in a prayer that is mental and thus only take less than a second, the next, she has it.

yes it does need time to access it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Of course you think surfer would win this tho, look at your sig. your not biased or anything.

Ur funny, because im the one on this forum that is widely noted as a biased member nvrbeenwthagirl..Im hopping u can sence my sarcasim through ur cpu.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO p.s. WW is immune to TP. It's part of her powerset being the Avatar of Truth.

Who said she totally immune to TP?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Go pick up a WW book or two before you argue about her please. One last thing, ur arugment is faulty and weak, According to the OP diana gets the Godwave, so your silly argument saying she may not get it is stupid becuz it's already been stated that she gets to use it.

Ok nver, you are the master debator 😆 ... it is known that she need time to access is, draco can confirm that. and stop saying the same thing over in ur post, its getting repetative.

Originally posted by Priest
Give me a wonderwoman Speed feat with her sandles, and ill will top with surfer's speed.

Warrior Maddness Thor w/ Power gem is on thanos's level if strength. Wonder Woman with her guantlets is not as strong as that version of Thor, meaning she is still not as strong as Thanos.

Has Circle accually tried to manipuilate her DNA? He probally has the power too but never tried it.

she survived it, maybe, but how was she after?

yes it does need time to access it.

Ur funny, because im the one on this forum that is widely noted as a biased member [B]nvrbeenwthagirl..Im hopping u can sence my sarcasim through ur cpu.

Who said she totally immune to TP?

Ok nver, you are the master debator 😆 ... it is known that she need time to access is, draco can confirm that. and stop saying the same thing over in ur post, its getting repetative. [/B]

Nvr's point is valid, she could use the Aegis shield for time and summon the godwave.

Secondly TP isn't going to take WW down, unless it is a completely top tier TP user, SS use TP offensively? Are you joking, and much less against WW?

Thats akin to saying SS will defeat thor by using TP aginst him.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Bottom line is, SS isn't speed blitzing Diana, until you can show me a Scan of SS speed blitzing Thor, your point is moot and is nothig but speculation.

Surfer dosent fight like that normally. A bloodlusted surfer can spped blitz Wonder Woman.
http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dz5.jpg
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Originally posted by Board Walker
But unlike your speed blitzing speculation, what is true and backed up by decades of proof, is the fact that SS has horrible battle reflexes and horrible battle speed.

His other powers makes up for wat he lacks, why do u think surfer is one of the most powerful heros? Must be a fluke because he dosent have much h2h skills. A smart surfer wouldent engage in H2h diana.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Yes he can dodge asteroids, and yes he can speed blitz space dinosaur fodder, but has he ever speed blitzed a major opponent such as Thor, or Thanos, or Quasar, or anyone else who has speed and reflexes that are FTL? No he has never once done so in his entire comic career.

Again surfer dosent fight like that because he's pasive. so u want to ingnore surfers speed and relexes that he has displayes out sde of fighting, because he dosent use these abilities when fighting thanos?.. even if there are plenty of on pannelproof floating around this thread that clearlly shows surfer does in fact have speed and reflexes that can match WW.

Originally posted by Board Walker
SS biggest weakness is Magic, and Diana is loaded with it.

Not to a degree that superman is. Surfer faught Mepshisto, his magic >>Diana's 🙄

Originally posted by Board Walker
And finnaly, SS isn't transmuting Diana or anything in Diana or on Diana, show me a scan of SS trasmuting Thor or Dr. strange, then your claims wont be purely speculative.

what has thor and strange have to do in this fight. where in my post that u have quoted, of me mentioning transmution? 🙄
He still can manipulate her DNA. look for the scans on this thread for ur self to prove that Surfer does well indeed has the power to manipulate DNA.

Originally posted by Priest
Give me a wonderwoman Speed feat with her sandles, and ill will top with surfer's speed.

Warrior Maddness Thor w/ Power gem is on thanos's level if strength. Wonder Woman with her guantlets is not as strong as that version of Thor, meaning she is still not as strong as Thanos.

Has Circle accually tried to manipuilate her DNA? He probally has the power too but never tried it.

she survived it, maybe, but how was she after?

yes it does need time to access it.

Ur funny, because im the one on this forum that is widely noted as a biased member [B]nvrbeenwthagirl..Im hopping u can sence my sarcasim through ur cpu.

Who said she totally immune to TP?

Ok nver, you are the master debator 😆 ... it is known that she need time to access is, draco can confirm that. and stop saying the same thing over in ur post, its getting repetative. [/B]

THE SANDLES BELONG TO HERMES. PERIOD. WW GIRL WITH THE SANDLE WAS ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH DIANA. THE SANDLES AMP THE WEARERS SPEED FACTOR.

WM Thor WIth PG was beyond THanos in strength. As shown that Even Champion was beyond THanos shields. THanos had other factors helping him battle. Such as Cosmic powers and his skill.

Circe has tried to transmute diana and it doesn't work.

As far as bias goes, Oh please, many of the new forum posters see all the marvel bias here. The only reason you all labled me biased is cuz i was calling you all on your marvel bullshit bias.

She was fine after the Black hole. read her you might like her. And Draco is not the be all end of all WW. I been reading her since I was lil and I read the book myself. SHe prayed for the wave one second and the next she had it. Time has no meaning to the gods and she did the prayer in her head. Speed of thought anyone?

She is also immune to TP as her truth powers make her such. As maxwell lord couldn't control her. he had to control superman.

Originally posted by Priest
Surfer dosent fight like that normally. A bloodlusted surfer can spped blitz Wonder Woman.
http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dz5.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4ml5.jpg

His other powers makes up for wat he lacks, why do u think surfer is one of the most powerful heros? Must be a fluke because he dosent have much h2h skills. A smart surfer wouldent engage in H2h diana.

Again surfer dosent fight like that because he's pasive. so u want to ingnore surfers speed and relexes that he has displayes out sde of fighting, because he dosent use these abilities when fighting thanos?.. even if there are plenty of on pannelproof floating around this thread that clearlly shows surfer does in fact have speed and reflexes that can match WW.

Not to a degree that superman is. Surfer faught Mepshisto, his magic >>Diana's 🙄

what has thor and strange have to do in this fight. where in my post that u have quoted, of me mentioning transmution? 🙄
He still can manipulate her DNA. look for the scans on this thread for ur self to prove that Surfer does well indeed has the power to manipulate DNA.

What I am hearing from you, over and over, is "Oh SS has never speed blitzed an opponent because he has never been blood lusted before." The point is, your using pure speculation, you have no gauge to judge how powerful SS is when blood lusted, so assigning him powers you deem fit for him to have while blood lusted, has as much credit as me saying "Diana will speed blitz SS and turn him to stone with the head of M, oh she can do it its because she isn't normally blood lusted, she fights with honor."

So what if she is made of DNA? Show me a scan of SS transmuting or manipulating the matter of a major opponent who has powers to defend against it, such as Thor, Quasar, Sentry, Dr. Strange, Adam Warlock, etc.

Originally posted by Priest
If you know anything about Thor, you would know that thor has incredible aim when wielding the Mjinor. He's a god, and has thousands of years of experience using his weapon. besides that surfer if the Mijnor cant tag surfer when moving around what makes u think Diana can tag him 😕 . I think ur blowing up Dianas speed a little much. its like ur debating about flash's speed and reflexes, Diana's not that fast, superman is faster than her.

The hammer inadvertantly missed him. Thor didn't know which direction SS was going to move before he threw it. What is he a mind reader? And tagging someone with a swing is a lot easier than tagging them with a thrown object (especially if you swing FTL).

[QUOTE][I have provided scans of surfer out maneuvering very fast projectiles.
(e.g. meteor storm, one meteor can travel 42 km/sec, i also showed that surfer has nano second reaction time) Sufer can dodge Dianas attacks.

There was no out maneuvering of meteors. Just him gliding through.
And I already gave SS faster than human reflexes, just not FTL ones (so the meteor thing is moot).
Your scan didn't show that he had nano second reaction time. This is common sense. A reaction is based off something that happens unexpectantly then adapting to it (like ducking after someone has thrown a punch).

Surfer blitz her before she pulls the head out. She probally would be blind folded leaving her very vunerable.

She can just feel where the head is while keeping her eyes on him and constantly moving. She has FTL reflexes (it was proven) and can easily block, reflect, or dodge any attack made by him. She only wears the blindfold as a precaution as to if she accidentally looks at it (I think). If the head works by looking at any part of it (instead of just the eyes) , which I doubt according to the mythology, then you have a point; the medusa head trick won't work (she would need to be blind folded then but still moving around). Plus she can take the head out FTL. I think you were assuming she is moving in human speed (or imagining you taking the head out).

Who says that this battle take place in a foot ball field? 😕

No one! Why can't you understand english. I said this fight depends on the battlefield (which wasn't given) and then I gave reasons (or examples) of why. Plus I said the size of a football field (not in a football field). Calm down and try to understand what I'm saying okay. I'm slowly absorbing your argument and being objective about it (you're making some decent points though) and I want you to do the same for me.

Which wont happen because it take took long to conjure up. she gets blitz.

Not if she's in the Aegis block. And the prayer is in her mind and in speed of thought (FTL).

Which wont happen because Dianas would be very vulnerable with her eyes covered. Also surfer can reach her in plenty of time before she has actually pull the Medusa head out of the bag. Trust me Surfer can reach her in time read the Infinity Guantlet, the issue when surfer trys to snag the IG from thanos.

Good point. But I made this clear right above of what she can do.

He still can mess with her DNA. Devolving her works for me.

I shown and proved this for the nth time that surfer cannot do anything without power coming out of him towards the target. Diana blocks or dodges anything he does (and even sends it right back at him). Plus diana was made from magical clay, she is a purely magical being and doesn't have DNA. She has also resisted transmutation before.

Superman is known to weak against magic, please just because she can cut superman doesn't mean she would able to cut surfer, your putting superman on a high pedestal. BTW Surfer has fought Mephisto, Mepshisto Magic>>>>> Skyfather Magic. Surfer isn't weak against magic than most people think. Tiara ain't cutting Diana.

Her tiara and sword (especially sword) can cut God. Magic has nothing to do with it. They're absolutely indestructible weapons. Just like wolverine cutting SS with his nigh indestructible admantium claws. And WW+ is uber stronger. Hell WW can even slice Superman up with a regular sharp adamantium sword or tiara (she's that strong).

Travels the world in less time it takes Strange to finish is sentance.
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2589/sspeed4tq.png
Surfer is plenty more faster than Diana in earths atmosphere.
That scan is PIS (or SvsFL). It was shown by Marvel that SS is just supersonic (not lightspeed) in an atmosphere already (unless he just went a little away and then used his cosmic awareness to quickly scan the area).

Godwave takes way too long, Surfer would of ended the battle before he has time to pray for it.
whats stopping surfer from TPing her while she's praying?

I covered this above and in the other post (SS can only communicate with his TP and nothing more).

Ok kid, Surfer can think and act in superspeed. Again your downplaying surfer's abilities with your "infinite amount of time". Surfer will be the one eating popcorn while Diana' s praying for a god wave. Last time i check she's not always grantes the GW, so that option of accessing in may not even work.

Yes SS does move and act in superspeed (I don't disagree). Just not in the degree where he can dodge a FTL sword swing. And why are you trying to take away her Godwave. The threader says she has everything and I think he mentioned that in a post after the thread.

He can Attack her using TP
Here's surfer defeating a psonic entity with telepathic bolt
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p17.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p18.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p21.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p22.jpg

Exaclty she's not immune to it, Surfer's TP would be more than enough to at least keep ther form focusing on conjuring a GW.

Yet you see cosmic energy coming out of him towards them. Something Diana can easily block or dodge. Plus that scan is either PIS (since it was already established that SS has a limited communication type of TP only and in which those aliens were already connected to him making it also a Plot Device) Try showing another scan showing him attack using TP and then I will consider it as non PIS or a Plot device. Nothing SS can do can get through the Aegis Block (not even cosmic energy).

Dianas not beating surfer.
Why?
Using the Medusa head would leave Diana highly vunerable, Surfer is not gonna Stand there while she's [B]Blind Folded
and wait for her to pull the head out of her purse. A bloodlusted surfer has the speed to exploit this vulnerability or her's.
The God wave is not going to work either, Diana needs time to pray for the thing( her prayers may not even be answered), he can't just access in instant. Surfer would already have used TP to mindrape her, or at the least confuse the hell out of her. Or he'll biltz her to oblivion.
Surfer manipulate her DNA for the win.
He can open blackholes under her, her durability is very questionable, doubt she can survive that.
Or just pummel her with infinite amounts of planet PC destroying blast. [/B]
Cover most of this already. The medusa head is covered, the threader says she has the Godwave in which she can be in the Aegis block, SS can't mindrape her when he can only communicate with it and she has resistance to even stronger users of it and in which she also has limited TP ability too, he can't speed blitz her if she has FTL reflexes, he can't create blackholes under her for she would have move out of the way and cut off his head in less than an instant, he can't manipulate her DNA when she can block, dodge, or reflect anything he throws at her, and he can't pummel her with PC when she can block, reflect, or dodge this. But your arguments are getting stronger. You're starting to make me sweat man. Stop it, I hate thinking to hard. 🙂 [QUOTE]

The Surfer can transmute non living things into living things, e.g. Quasimodo. He turned a computer into a human.

The Silver Surfer soon found him, sensing his torment while he flew around the world, learning about humanity. Even though he knew that he shouldn’t interfere, the Surfer felt compelled to help, and he gave Quasimodo human form as he asked. But Quasimodo was not grateful, and after finding himself hideously ugly when he looked in the mirror, he used his Destruct Eye to attack the Silver Surfer. Then Quasimodo rampaged out of the lab, attacking buildings and anything he could get his hands on, finding satisfaction only in chaos and destruction. The Surfer followed soon after, intending to rectify his mistake. Quasimodo then fought with the Surfer and threatened to kill him in front of the gathering masses. Because the Surfer was handsome, and Quasimodo was ugly, he hated the Surfer and intended to throw him to the ground; but the Surfer teleported out of Quasimodo’s hands, leaving only a pulsing field of cosmic power in his place. The field of power slowly traveled up Quasimodo’s arm, threatening to engulf his body, while Quasimodo fought it, desperately clinging to his newfound life. But he could not outrun the power, and it soon completely overcame him, freezing him above a giant clock. The Surfer felt it was appropriate, as a body without a soul only deserved to be a statue.

Originally posted by The Libertine
The Surfer can transmute non living things into living things, e.g. Quasimodo. He turned a computer into a human.

The Silver Surfer soon found him, sensing his torment while he flew around the world, learning about humanity. Even though he knew that he shouldn’t interfere, the Surfer felt compelled to help, and he gave Quasimodo human form as he asked. But Quasimodo was not grateful, and after finding himself hideously ugly when he looked in the mirror, he used his Destruct Eye to attack the Silver Surfer. Then Quasimodo rampaged out of the lab, attacking buildings and anything he could get his hands on, finding satisfaction only in chaos and destruction. The Surfer followed soon after, intending to rectify his mistake. Quasimodo then fought with the Surfer and threatened to kill him in front of the gathering masses. Because the Surfer was handsome, and Quasimodo was ugly, he hated the Surfer and intended to throw him to the ground; but the Surfer teleported out of Quasimodo’s hands, leaving only a pulsing field of cosmic power in his place. The field of power slowly traveled up Quasimodo’s arm, threatening to engulf his body, while Quasimodo fought it, desperately clinging to his newfound life. But he could not outrun the power, and it soon completely overcame him, freezing him above a giant clock. The Surfer felt it was appropriate, as a body without a soul only deserved to be a statue.

Yet he can't transmute someone who is immune to it. Such as Diana by which a skyfather being (Circe) tried and failed.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yet he can't transmute someone who is immune to it. Such as Diana by which a skyfather being (Circe) tried and failed.

You actually don't know that, as the power cosmic works in a different way it's one of those unarguable things, to my knowledge the Surfers never failed at transmutation and Diana has been transmuted. Circe is not Skyfather she is a pantheon god. Wonderwoman was changed into a Gorilla precrisis by the king of the Space Gorillas and wonder woman has been aged post crisis that's a kind of transmutation. One the surfer could do despite her supposed eternal youth.

Surfer never transmuted a living being before.

Originally posted by dvampire
Surfer never transmuted a living being before.

He's actually turned a non living machine into a human and back into a non living again.

Originally posted by The Libertine
The Surfer can transmute non living things into living things, e.g. Quasimodo. He turned a computer into a human.

The Silver Surfer soon found him, sensing his torment while he flew around the world, learning about humanity. Even though he knew that he shouldn’t interfere, the Surfer felt compelled to help, and he gave Quasimodo human form as he asked. But Quasimodo was not grateful, and after finding himself hideously ugly when he looked in the mirror, he used his Destruct Eye to attack the Silver Surfer. Then Quasimodo rampaged out of the lab, attacking buildings and anything he could get his hands on, finding satisfaction only in chaos and destruction. The Surfer followed soon after, intending to rectify his mistake. Quasimodo then fought with the Surfer and threatened to kill him in front of the gathering masses. Because the Surfer was handsome, and Quasimodo was ugly, he hated the Surfer and intended to throw him to the ground; but the Surfer teleported out of Quasimodo’s hands, leaving only a pulsing field of cosmic power in his place. The field of power slowly traveled up Quasimodo’s arm, threatening to engulf his body, while Quasimodo fought it, desperately clinging to his newfound life. But he could not outrun the power, and it soon completely overcame him, freezing him above a giant clock. The Surfer felt it was appropriate, as a body without a soul only deserved to be a statue.

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If Draco69 says Wonder Woman loses, she loses. I take his opinion over anybody including nvrhaclue.

couldn't The Surfer just multiply himself, create clones and give WW too many targets to aim at?

or, another way of wearing her out and disorientating her, just phase in and out so fast in so many positions that he seems to be everywhere...

it sounds ridiculous that WW would even consider challenging The Silver Surfer.

What would happen if The Surfer just phased out at the start of the fight, then went to work on transporting her into a black hole or something. she can't hit something that's intangible, and he can phase through objects. what's she going to do?

and he could get all this done in millionths of a second, whilst she was still struggling to collect her wits.

Originally posted by the Darkone
If Draco69 says Wonder Woman loses, she loses. I take his opinion over anybody including nvrhaclue.

I dont' care what you say. I'm going to start calling you the ******* one. Please do not address me any more since you obviously dont' have the brains to adress me by my screen name you tard. I dont' care what draco says either. Draco is also the same person who tried to say DS has been imprisoned in the source wall since the 80's.

Originally posted by The Libertine
You actually don't know that, as the power cosmic works in a different way it's one of those unarguable things, to my knowledge the Surfers never failed at transmutation and Diana has been transmuted. Circe is not Skyfather she is a pantheon god. Wonderwoman was changed into a Gorilla precrisis by the king of the Space Gorillas and wonder woman has been aged post crisis that's a kind of transmutation. One the surfer could do despite her supposed eternal youth.

WW has never been transmuted post crisis. And circe most certainly is sky father lvl. She put the screws to the PANTHEONS of DC.

Originally posted by janus77
couldn't The Surfer just multiply himself, create clones and give WW too many targets to aim at?

or, another way of wearing her out and disorientating her, just phase in and out so fast in so many positions that he seems to be everywhere...

it sounds ridiculous that WW would even consider challenging The Silver Surfer.

What would happen if The Surfer just phased out at the start of the fight, then went to work on transporting her into a black hole or something. she can't hit something that's intangible, and he can phase through objects. what's she going to do?

and he could get all this done in millionths of a second, whilst she was still struggling to collect her wits.

I guess you missed the OP giving WW ALL of her magical weapons and THE GODWAVE. A black hole isn't going to hurt WW. she's survived one already as well. ALSo you act as if phasing in and out is going to disorient WW? WTF? YOu obviously dont' know the character too well.

I pray folks that are looking to back up wonderwomen are giving her a TON of magical support devices.