Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Yes but wouldn't they go back to Abraham? Christian's believe Jesus is God, the Father the Son and Holy Spirit are Holy Trinity and that is God.Isn't Judaism Issac? Both Muslims and Jews trace their ways back to Abraham so he is the split point, after him they went their separate ways.
Hm...
Christians would initially go back to Jews. I don't think Jews uphold any single person as ''the maker of Judaism''.
Moses freed them, but isnt there Abraham and all other bunch of people, who are just as important in Judaism.
Islam holds Muhammad above all, and considering things he has done, which were vile and inhuman, one would think that upholding him as a ''perfect example'' is not actually that perfect.
One would think that praying to Allah would still make one a Muslim, without following the path of Muhammad.
Islam means ''submission'' (to Allah).
According to that logic, one can submit to Allah without Muhammad...no?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
he has done, which were vile and inhuman, one would think that upholding him as a ''perfect example'' is not actually that perfect.
Woow, careful now, remember what happened last time someone linked Muhammad with violence.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Islam means ''submission'' (to Allah).
According to that logic, one can submit to Allah without Muhammad...no?
It makes sense, but of course, seeing as Muhammad wrote the Koran apparently in the words Allah gave him, if Muhammad was proved not to be a prophet then you wouldn't follow the Koran and thus, you wouldn't follow Allah.
Originally posted by AllianceBuddhism involves the ignorance of the human self. It DENIES conflict, violence, physical punishment. However, ignoring does not equal removing. Conflit will existe eternally becuase it is natural. Nature creates sitautions we cannot control. You cannot control your environment. Living a life of peace will not stop your brother from committing suicide or garuntess a good harvest this year, or prevent your neighbor from stealing your bicycle.
Buddhists dont ignor conflict they just have different ways of dealing with it. Oh yeah you know that the Shaolin monks are buddhists.....something tells me they dont deny violence.
Originally posted by Alliance
Thats all you do. Have your head stuck up Dhimmi Watch too much lately?
I dunno if you're having a conversation with somebody and they say yeah I dont wanna go the religous forum because of Alliance thats says alot really.
Originally posted by Alliance
Turkey has had a long tradition of secualr government and the repression of the Islamicist minority. A conflict only intensified by international bigots who simply hate Islam.Every nation has stupid laws. The law in discussion is mainly a law of subversion, similar to the Patriot Act, where insulting "Turkishness" is a crime.
Article 301 states the following.
So, I don't see anyting in there referencing Christianity. Its clarly simply a case of over-prosecution based on very broad abstract definition s of "anti-Turkishness" which is the problem of an individual prosecutor, not a nation.
The law is a problem, and I have confidence that it will be fixed, but the "anti-Chirstianity" charge is arbitrary and not directly perscribed under the law, it'll probably simply be dropped.
*yawn* think i'll respond to the rest later.
muhammad wasnt extraordinary by his times. even asuming the muslim records are true, he migh have been a little more generous at times or less egotistical than an ordinary arab male in similar authoritative positions but then again arab males of the times were one of the worst examples of civilised men
{iving in the apparently civilised world} other than perhaps some of the romanticised barbarians. he is a terrible example of a human being although not so much worse than those that passed before him who might have existed{and this is based on the MUSLIM records}
by the ones i mean jesus and buddha.
Buddha? Buddha has never advocated murder, nor murdered anyone himself. Hes center values are compassion, love and equality of all human beings, so by what standards to you compare Muhammad being ''not so much better'' than Buddha, seeing how Muhammad managed to murder 600-900 Jews in one day?
As far as Arab people go - it is said that the climate has contributed to the war-type amentality of ancient Arabs (or so I've read).
Originally posted by Alliance
Ignorance is bliss 🙂Buddhism is not perfect, as a philosophy or as a religion.
However, do you think the climate of Southeast Asia promoted Buddhism?
I never claimed that Buddhism was perfect, and I do not embrace ignorance.
Not in the same way that the west promoted Christianity.
Originally posted by lil bitchinessIt has been theorized that the extreme heat provides a higher state of physiological arousal, and that this at times leads to a form of aggression similar to the concept of "pain elicited aggression". This concept I believe is improperly using the term "pain" in its label, a more apt description should be "arousal induced aggression". Also, a similar concept is the excitation transfer theory, again improperly described.
As far as Arab people go - it is said that the climate has contributed to the war-type amentality of ancient Arabs (or so I've read).