Originally posted by srankmissingnin
My preferences are Hardcore (Post, Math, Metal, Noise), some rock (Progressive / Experimental) Metal (mostly art and post but some melodic death / black metal) and some Punk (but not very much) but I listen to jazz or classical when I draw or write.
What do you write? 🙂
Neu Metal ftw
Originally posted by xmarksthespotHow someone who has admitted he made up a statistic can subsequently still repeatedly refer to that statistic is astounding...
Its an estimation. As usual you missed the point the point is that there are very few.....can we agree on that?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot3% black mutants? There's only 1.72439% asian mutants, and 1.00023% hispanic mutants. 😐
Actually its probably less than 3 percent.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Did I say that other ethnic groups shouldnt be added? Didnt I actualy say its was GOOD that their are aborignal characters. Im all for other ethnic groups.
Could you please try to explain to me what the **** you are arguing about now?
1. Even ifs it not 3 percent its very low.
2. Who bloody well told you that asian and hispanic characters shouldnt be added. 🤨
3. Whats the problem now? What do you want to argue about? Everybody agrees that there should be more ethnic minoriotes 🤨
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
My preferences are Hardcore (Post, Math, Metal, Noise), some rock (Progressive / Experimental) Metal (mostly art and post but some melodic death / black metal) and some Punk (but not very much) but I listen to jazz or classical when I draw or write.
Canadian bands suck. 😛 Serioulsy though are there any decent Canadian bands? Canadas far too nice a country to have any heavy bands. You're all far too civilised. 😖hifty:
Originally posted by llagrok
What do you write? 🙂Neu Metal ftw
Sell out! Norwegians are only supposed to like Black Metal. 😛
Originally posted by Alfheim
Canadian bands suck. 😛 Serioulsy though are there any decent Canadian bands? Canadas far too nice a country to have any heavy bands. You're all far too civilised. 😖hifty:Sell out! Norwegians are only supposed to like Black Metal. 😛
What! There are tons of great Canadian bands!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lhiY02vzRc
🤘
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What! There are tons of great Canadian bands!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lhiY02vzRc
🤘
Ok.....not bad. ✅
Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Check my "swagger" baby.You already know what I knock.
... I only speak english. 😈
Let me take a shot in the dark though... does it have spoken work lyrics (I use the word "lyric" very loosely) about jewelry/drugs/money/guns/hoes written to a nursery school rhyme scheme read over 10 seconds of computer generate beats created by drum machine and repeated on an infinite loop? 😈
Originally posted by AlfheimIt's not an estimation, it's a bullshatistic.
Its an estimation.
Originally posted by AlfheimChillax Cujo. Did I say any of that? Or say that you implied any of that? That's right, no. All I did was point out the bullshatistic, then illustrate how pointless it is to use bullshatistics to try and justify anything. Missed the point? Ironic.
1. Even ifs it not 3 percent its very low.
2. Who bloody well told you that asian and hispanic characters shouldnt be added. 🤨
3. Whats the problem now? What do you want to argue about? Everybody agrees that there should be more ethnic minoriotes 🤨
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's not an estimation, it's a bullshatistic.
No...its an estimation. Again everbody got the point the figure for black mutants is too low.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Chillax Cujo. Did I say any of that? Or say that you implied any of that? That's right, no. All I did was point out the bullshatistic, then illustrate how pointless it is to use bullshatistics to try and justify anything. Missed the point? Ironic.
Considering you always misinterpret what I say, of course I bloody thought you implied that. Knowing you your probably lying. So what was the point in putting down an estimation for hispanics and asians with a straight face emoticon....wows thats really hard not misinterpret.
Originally posted by AlfheimInternally ironic.
Considering you always misinterpret what I say, of course I bloody thought you implied that.
I made up statistics. They weren't "estimations," they weren't based on anything, I randomly typed a sequence of numbers, as should have been obvious to anyone with basic comprehensive abilities, they were utterly made up. I made up statistics to show how idiotic it is to make up statistics. I specifically made up statistics to 5 decimal places deliberately to emphasise that these statistics were made up and to exacerbate the display of the stupidity of making up statistics.
Yes, (A) I'm lying 🙄 or (B) you're a dimwit. Hmm, answers not (A).
I've no idea how one can plainly admit that they essentially made up a statistic and then refer to it as an "estimate" of any substance or significance...
Originally posted by xmarksthespotI made up statistics. I made up statistics to show how idiotic it is to make up statistics. I specifically made up statistics to 5 decimal places deliberately to emphasise that these statistics were made up and to exacerbate the display of the stupidity of making up statistics.
How the **** am I supposed to know wether you are lying. Consdiering the fcat that their are probably less hispanic and asian mutants than black mutants. That figure isnt that off.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I've no idea how one can plainly admit that they essentially made up a statistic and then refer to it as an "estimate" of any substance or significance...
Becuase everybody got the bloody point you moron. Everybodys done with this. The point is there are very few black mutants. Nobody cares wether its exactly 3 percent or not.
Originally posted by Disappear
defilippis and weir wrote 32 issues with the new mutants/new x-men, only depowering characters when company mandate called for it, because they're trying to trick minorities into buying their comics?
One more time.
That is MY theory. Yes.
Originally posted by Disappear
then they'd pull the rug out from under them?
Have you ever seen Charlie Brown try to kick that damn football?
Same concept.
Originally posted by Disappear
and they wrote thirty two issues without at all doing that, yet you still claim that was their motivation?
I notice here that you may not be taking everything in. You could go back (if you cared) and check out what I said about the New X-men and MY theory.
Originally posted by Disappear
reign it in, idiot.
In the spirit of fairness and "understanding", I'll let this one go.
but keep in mind that you don't Know me. K.
Pump your breaks,
and stay in your lane.
Originally posted by Disappear
not everybody's out to get you.
I never said EVERYBODY was out to get ME.
Get it right buddy (White people are not EVERYBODY)
Originally posted by Disappear
x-statix ran as a few dozen issues on the x-force title, then as "x-statix" for about twenty six more issues before being cancelled. it was almost a satire of the traditional superhero story, and got mixed reviews the entire time. most people have a love it or hate it opinion, with very little in between. that's why it was canned. it was being regularly promoted, as with many other comics, in the ad pages and letter pages of most x-titles while it was in print.
Fair. But, since I never heard of them I really can't comment.
Originally posted by Disappear
progessive and thought provoking as opposed to this absenteeism you claim exists, for one.
What is this "absenteeism" you speak of?
Originally posted by Disappear
for actually putting a story of interracial bigotry into print, when it hasn't been done before, for another. especially in a mutant story, where most "racial" issues get chocked to the unoffensive "mutant race" level.
Fair. You found it fascinating because you'd never seen intra-racial bigotry in print before.
We have something in common.
I like Hudlin's take on the Panther Cuz I've never seen a Black King "son" the "others" in print before.
Originally posted by Disappear
i understand the terms used in supreme power. if you re-read my post, maybe you'll understand what i was saying. nighthawk made the comparison between himself and stanley, saying stanley'd been sheltered from how the world really worked. how people "like mark" [whites] really acted toward blacks, how their was an innate lack of balance between the powers, etc. he'd experienced the full brunt of it, much like a "field negro" experienced the full length of the master's racism, anger, and whip. whereas stanley had not, much like a "house negro" who'd been sheltered from that, and experienced comparatively little overt mistreatment. thus, the modern-day blacks unsheltered from that [typically poor,] could somehow claim worse treatment and more empathy for their ancestors than someone more shelthered [usually in a richer, less oppressive environment.] the "funny thing," as i said, was that the roles were reversed in terms of their monetary well being.
I understood where you were coming from. But, as I said. The two terms have little to do with "sheltering" one from the other. They were both Slaves.
The difference was favoritism and the strife that it caused between the slaves.
First,
consider what separated the House Niger from the Field Niger.
It wasn't like you filled out applications and they selected the best and most trust worthy for the job.
Second,
House Niggers acted like spys for the Master, Guard dogs if you will, alerting the master of escape, or plots against the plantation.
For which they would be "rewarded" with a few other liberties/privileges (a "treat"😉 while the Field Niggers were punished.
They would also turn a blind eye to the obvious mistreatment of people that looked just like them, in order to gain favoritism and keep their place by Masters side.
Third,
The attitudes of House Niggers can be seen today in the characters of:
Uncle Ruckus
The "junior" deputy in "Life"
Stacy Dash's boyfriend in "Mo' Money"
It's from this history and the dynamic created by it that we have to thank for the "Crabs in a Barrel" phenomenon that occurs in my people.
NightHawk was calling Stanly a House niger because he viewed Stanly as just another lost brother who became a dog lapping at the "Master's" heels for acceptance, and or was just watching people that looked just like him struggle with crime and fall victim to th system.
Their monetary roles being reversed had nothing to do with the Principal of the thing.
Originally posted by Disappear
storm's traits were taken directly off the two characters. they could have just taken away some of the cat-like features of the one woman, and not made it an "amalgam," thus appeasing your sense that this is racially unjust. but they didn't. that doesn't automatically make it a racist or racially-motivated plot, especially when they did absolutely nothing to hide storm's heritage. she could've been some half-white girl from the states if their goal was to make her "universally acceptable," but they didn't. just because thoughts and practices like that exist doesn't mean they're to blame for everything. grow up a bit and see that.
Before i address this let me first say,
I like her hair and eyes. I have a cousin with coal black skin and cold blue eyes.
However, you're not really understanding me here.
All I'm saying is that the White hair and blue eyes, belonging to the original concepts or not, have absolutely no bearing on the creation of Storm.
They could have, conceivably, given her completely average African features had they chose. the amalgamation is a moot point since she became a brand new character unique to herself. Complete with background story.
Was her Background story an amalgamation too?
As far as her being mixed, I had a conversation with someone about M and her being black and from Monaco/Morocco (something like that) the other guy told me she wasn't black, this is why.
My point being, Ultimate Storm is from where?
Originally posted by Disappear
i wasn't "twisting" anything to make you look crazy, i was correcting blatant and unfounded accusations against a group of people simply because of their skin color. this outright assumption that, just because someone is white, they can't handle a strong black character is the same as assuming just because someone is white, they'd tar and feather a black man for looking at their woman.
You'll forgive me if MY history teaches me otherwise.
Originally posted by Disappear
but when i get offended, i'm going to call people on their bullshit.
You mean like I'm doing?
Originally posted by Disappear
i specifically said that some of storm's relationships [particularly the shaitan/khan thing, and the kissing of kurt and logan in quick succession] didn't make sense. but you said it was somehow more important for her to be with someone of her same color, than to be in a relationship that makes sense. i'm not excusing anything; i'm pointing out how backward that type of thinking is.
Allot of relationships and marriages in the real world don't make sense from the outside looking in. My argument on this is, "See where it goes". In MY opinion, Yes, it is important to see two powerful black people, Man and Woman, get together and try to work it out.
(that's fascinating to me because I've never seen it in print).
Forge and Storm ran their course. Let it go. Storm and Wolverine? Let it go. Storm and Nightcrawler? Let it go. Storm and Cable? Let it go.
The Khan thing was DOPE, I hope they bring him back to cause trouble. If I were looking for an archvillan of the couple I'd start with him.
Originally posted by Disappear
making a commentary that hudlin doesn't know what he's doing when writing comics is not the same as causing a big, racially-motivated stink because you think you're being given the short end of the stick.
Making a commentary is cool. But when "Black" becomes a basis to diss the man I take offense.
Originally posted by Disappear
if you think people disliking hudlin and his writing gives you grounds to make allegations of racism and a white man's conspiracy because you won't think about what else may exist out there, you're an imbecile.
Go back and read what EVERYBODY wrote. I not dismissing the fact that he may have made a few mistakes on characterization and continuity. All writers do what they want in the interest of telling a story. But again look back at the board.
you guys started that "It must be a black thing" stuff.
And looking at the world through my eyes and experience does not make me an imbecile.
Originally posted by Disappear
insulting an entire race of people directly [and an entire group of people based only on their race,] and saying its the same thing as having a black man insulted [not for being black, but for lacking skills or talent or regard for his predecessors] makes you an imbecile. end of story.
Go back and read the posts, from the beginning, Berries and Cream.
That's not at all what i did.
Storm's features and hair texture(not color) and features are not indigenous to whites, as a matter fact it's the other way around since Blacks are the first humans. Maybe her eye color as well??
Asians actually have straighter hair than whites.
White people are an amalgamtion of West Asians and Africans, ESPECIALLY Greeks and many other Mediterranean populations such as Italians, Spanish(more recently).
Ororo's lineage is from Eastern Africa and Black American.
Her features,hair color,texture and eye color are fine/correct given her lineage and mystical background.
Carry on.dope