Metal

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, you don't have to engage. That's your responsibility, not mine. Don't moan about debates when you don't have the self-control to stay clear of any.

If you can show me where I wrote an essay on why you're a retard or where I attacked you personally, in that reply, do so.

-AC

Don't BS me. You know what you say in your posts. You know quite well you're prone to insulting people's intellect based on differing viewpoints.
For instance, I am not having a conversation with Violent2Dope on if Korn is still metal. The debate, so far, has consisted of smaller, mor organized responses without "OH YEAH, WELL YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY A 12-YEAR OLD! GTFO I HAVE MORE PRIORITY OVER YOU, BUT I REFUSE TO STATE WHY!"

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I love that post, about metal being the most diverse genre. What a load of bollocks.

See: My previous post. 🙄

What, the one where you go on about conversations with Violent2Dope? Doesn't really seem relevant.

Originally posted by Bardiel13
Don't BS me. You know what you say in your posts. You know quite well you're prone to insulting people's intellect based on differing viewpoints.

No, don't BS ME. You said I wrote an essay about you being a retard and attacking you personally.

Find it, quote it, post it, or alternatively don't make claims that aren't true. The conclusion to be drawn is that you got that out of my post, it wasn't actually there. Don't read between the lines, read the actual ones. The ones where there was no "retard" or personal attacks.

If there were, quote me.

Originally posted by Bardiel13
For instance, I am not having a conversation with Violent2Dope on if Korn is still metal. The debate, so far, has consisted of smaller, mor organized responses without "OH YEAH, WELL YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY A 12-YEAR OLD! GTFO I HAVE MORE PRIORITY OVER YOU, BUT I REFUSE TO STATE WHY!"

Did I say that? Quote me, again, if these comments are in my post.

Because as far as I'm aware, I posted a reply of reasonable length and fairly countered your argument, which you then admitted you didn't mean anyway.

So if you cannot reply with quotes to prove I'm saying all this, don't tell me I'm saying it.

-AC

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
What, the one where you go on about conversations with Violent2Dope? Doesn't really seem relevant.

No, the one about me exaggerating to express my enthusiasm. However, if you're saying the keyword was "diverse", instead of "most", I'd have to say that's the real bollocks.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, don't BS ME. You said I wrote an essay about you being a retard and attacking you personally.

Find it, quote it, post it, or alternatively don't make claims that aren't true. The conclusion to be drawn is that you got that out of my post, it wasn't actually there. Don't read between the lines, read the actual ones. The ones where there was no "retard" or personal attacks.

If there were, quote me.

Did I say that? Quote me, again, if these comments are in my post.

Because as far as I'm aware, I posted a reply of reasonable length and fairly countered your argument, which you then admitted you didn't mean anyway.

So if you cannot reply with quotes to prove I'm saying all this, don't tell me I'm saying it.

-AC

Either your culture has no concept of sarcasm or exaggeration to make a point, or you think taking everything literally and picking apart every minor detail to sidetrack a conversation is a clever debating tactic. I'm not going to play your game. I refuse to invest another ounce of energy in this debate, just so you can run it around in circles and ensure that it never ends, so you don't have to even think about the concept that you may, in fact, be wrong.

Originally posted by Bardiel13
Either your culture has no concept of sarcasm or exaggeration to make a point, or you think taking everything literally and picking apart every minor detail to sidetrack a conversation is a clever debating tactic. I'm not going to play your game. I refuse to invest another ounce of energy in this debate, just so you can run it around in circles and ensure that it never ends, so you don't have to even think about the concept that you may, in fact, be wrong.

Here's the deal; don't say things you can't back up and then you...won't have to try and won't end up looking silly.

Sarcasm? I know it. Weaselling? Not part of my arsenal.

I didn't sidetrack anything, you made a remark that someone disagreed with and you asked them to prove you wrong. If you knew your initial claim was wrong anyway, why ask someone to do so? You wanted simple, one line replies and you got an irrefutable amount of evidence telling you how you were wrong.

You then tried to weasel, claiming you never meant it, but your actions suggest otherwise.

Stop trying the tired, cowardly tactic of "You're too scared to admit you're wrong.". I'm not, you know I'm not, I know I'm not. You made a claim, I countered it in a manner you disliked, a manner you couldn't reply to, and now you're upset.

Deal.

-AC

I personally do not like Nu Metal, out of all the stuff I've heard.

I like death metal, and some black metal however.

On the rare chance that I listen to death metal it is usually the melodic sort that I choose. Heartwork and Swansong era Carcass, Hypocrisy, Dark Tranquility, and Opeth are about all I can listen too and enjoy.

The only metal I hate are the kind where all the guitarists do is wail on all the strings every stroke(any dumbshit can do that), the drummer just for the most part beats on the cymbols, and the vocalist screams in the roughest voice he can make.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
The only metal I hate are the kind where all the guitarists do is wail on all the strings every stroke(any dumbshit can do that), the drummer just for the most part beats on the cymbols, and the vocalist screams in the roughest voice he can make.

You mean Grindcore?

Well they are actually playing the instruments better than someone who...can't play them, so to say anybody could do it is a bit of a stretch.

-AC

Cannibal Corpse has an amazing guitarist... and their bass player is one of the most skilled in the world, ever...

I'm very fond of metal, so not to me, no.

Regards, Yvonne

Heh, I love metal.

I've been in different metal bands since I was 13. To give an example of the diversity, when I started playing in a band, we more of an Iron Maiden sort of gig...but when Nu Metal started showing up (ie Korn, Slipknot, Mudvayne, etc) we changed tempos completely and became a "Nu Metal band." Given this was during early High School, so Nu Metal appealed to our teenage angst like no other...

...two years later, I hated nu metal. The appeal was gone, and like someone else pointed out, we all kind of outgrew the pysche that loved hearing how we were so miserable and how we wanted to hate and kill everything. We eventually mixed it up a bit and went back to our roots, now having a more Shadows Fall/Children of Bodom band.

Again our tastes changed, and I dug out some old Black Metal LPs I had from Norway, and none of the guys had really heard it before. They took a liking to it quickly, and soon became an Emperor/Immortal/Gorgoroth-esque band. Once the stuck-in-a-windtunnel sound of older black metal got too redundent, we moved on to our current band, Stonehaven, which is a melodic Viking/Folk metal band (ie Einherjer, Ensiferum, etc).

Bottom line I guess is metal has something for everyone...any taste, any personality, any lifestyle.

Whether you're a symphony major in college, or a hood-rat looking to beat a guy's ass with a baseball bat, metal's got a home for you...

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
Heh, I love metal.

I've been in different metal bands since I was 13. To give an example of the diversity, when I started playing in a band, we more of an Iron Maiden sort of gig...but when Nu Metal started showing up (ie Korn, Slipknot, Mudvayne, etc) we changed tempos completely and became a "Nu Metal band." Given this was during early High School, so Nu Metal appealed to our teenage angst like no other...

...two years later, I hated nu metal. The appeal was gone, and like someone else pointed out, we all kind of outgrew the pysche that loved hearing how we were so miserable and how we wanted to hate and kill everything. We eventually mixed it up a bit and went back to our roots, now having a more Shadows Fall/Children of Bodom band.

Again our tastes changed, and I dug out some old Black Metal LPs I had from Norway, and none of the guys had really heard it before. They took a liking to it quickly, and soon became an Emperor/Immortal/Gorgoroth-esque band. Once the stuck-in-a-windtunnel sound of older black metal got too redundent, we moved on to our current band, Stonehaven, which is a melodic Viking/Folk metal band (ie Einherjer, Ensiferum, etc).

Bottom line I guess is metal has something for everyone...any taste, any personality, any lifestyle.

Whether you're a symphony major in college, or a hood-rat looking to beat a guy's ass with a baseball bat, metal's got a home for you...

Yeah, because it steals from everywhere else.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, because it steals from everywhere else.

-AC

😐

I guess that's one way of putting it.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, because it steals from everywhere else.

-AC

Why must you be so negetive? 🙁

Hey EInherjar, has your band recorded? I'm in a Viking Folk band, myself and I'd like to see what our generation is doing with the genre.

Originally posted by Bardiel13
Why must you be so negetive? 🙁

I'm being truthful.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm being truthful.

-AC

Yes, but in a negetive way. "Stealing" is a negetive term, when you could simply say "influenced" and it's basically the same thing.