Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Does anyone really think Hulk could put Doomsday down. Doomsday has shown in Gog wars that the more pressure he is under, the faster he evolves. what in the sam hill is hulk going to do to being who evolves powers just to win?
That same Doomsday got KTFOed by Superman, and he didn't have too much trouble with it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Superman is beyond the Hulk.
😐
He's above Hulk. Beyond would suggest that he's too powerful to be taken down.
Which is stupid.
Superman used a touch of superspeed and some hard punches against Doomsday Rex.
Hulk hits a LOT harder than Superman does. That's a proven point.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
😐He's above Hulk. Beyond would suggest that he's too powerful to be taken down.
Which is stupid.
Superman used a touch of superspeed and some hard punches against Doomsday Rex.
Hulk hits a LOT harder than Superman does. That's a proven point.
How can the Hulk hit harder than Superman when Superman is Denser? It's one reason why Thanos hits so hard. The Tuffer your skin, backed by uber strength, the harder you hit. It's why Thor and BRB hit so hard with thier hammers. Plus speed is a factor or didn't you know? The faster something hit's something, the harder it hits. No way hulk can hit harder than supers when super's is tuffer and faster on top of his rediculous strength.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestYOU AGREE CAUSE YOUR BOTH DAMN FANBOYS.
DO NOT use DD rex as an example of DD's abilities, as Supes himself said, DD rex is nowhere near the threat DD is normally.And no, it's not proven that Hulk hits harder than Supes.
I really, really, hate to agree with Nvr, but he is correct. Superman IS beyond Hulk.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How can the Hulk hit harder than Superman when Superman is Denser? It's one reason why Thanos hits so hard. The Tuffer your skin, backed by uber strength, the harder you hit. It's why Thor and BRB hit so hard with thier hammers. Plus speed is a factor or didn't you know? The faster something hit's something, the harder it hits. No way hulk can hit harder than supers when super's is tuffer and faster on top of his rediculous strength.
Hulk has punched through a time storm before. 😐
It's not disputable who hits harder.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Hulk has punched through a time storm before. 😐It's not disputable who hits harder.
And Exactly how strong do you have to be to punch thru a time storm? Superman moves at nth speed faster than Light. the faster you move, the harder you hit. Superman's skin is also tuffer, making his hits harder. Or do you think Hulk hits harder than a flying Uru hammer too?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
DO NOT use DD rex as an example of DD's abilities, as Supes himself said, DD rex is nowhere near the threat DD is normally.And no, it's not proven that Hulk hits harder than Supes.
I really, really, hate to agree with Nvr, but he is correct. Superman IS beyond Hulk.
Wow.
Seriously, wow.
Doomsday Rex is the uber version of Doomsday that fought for years on end against Gog's army. To say that version wasn't tough is just kind of stupid.
I'm pretty sure Loeb Superman was a jackass anyway.
anyway, here's some Hulk punching power:
The Hulk breaks free of a plastithene trap. Plastithene is what the Leader's humanoids are composed of and has taken direct hits from Mjolnir unharmed. IH #117
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Plastithene-IH117.jpg
Doom brags that nothing in the universe can shatter the field. IH #144
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Doom-IH144.jpg
Without leverage, the Hulk shatters MODOK's armor, an alloy of adamantium. IH #167
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/2adamantium-IH167a.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/2adamantium-IH167b.jpg
The Hulk's increasing strength vs. An Elder's most powerful force field. Guess which wins. IH #198
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Collector-IH198a.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Collector-IH198b.jpg
Hulk ties Ock's adamantium arms into a nice bow. IH #396
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Ock-IH396c.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Ock-IH396d.jpg
The Hulk breaks through X-Man's psi-shields. HULK/X-MAN Annual 1998.
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/XMan-IHXANN1998a.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/XMan-IHXANN1998b.jpg
Hulk breaks one of the Thing’s ribs and Thing says Hulk’s next shot will finish him. FANTASTIC FOUR #535.
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Thing-FF535a.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Thing-FF535b.jpg
(note: Ben Grimm has taken hits from other top tiers including Gladiator and not taken that much damage, just to give you an idea of how much Hulk is packing)
The Hulk pushes apart the spheres of an anti-matter bomb... then hits one with such force, it overcomes the inertial field. Notice how powerful the attraction between the spheres is. MARVEL TEAM-UP Annual #2
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Antimatter-MTUANN2a.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Antimatter-MTUANN2b.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Antimatter-MTUANN2c.jpg
The power of the Hulk is over Superman's power. No disputing.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
They were seeing fragments of each others lives,it says That they were teleporting with each punch...thats manipulating time and space.
Time and Space were screwed up beyond all means though once the alter-earths appeared. Wouldn't that be akin to them battling across it?
Originally posted by UniOmni
The Hulk hate on this board is most disturbing....You'd think he squashed one of your homes in one of his fictional(not real so doesn't deserve this ire) rampages.Let me say a couple things.
Hulk can go from calm to enraged in seconds.
This whole thing about it taking a whole day for him to reach Supermans level, and thus DD's isn't supported by comics.
Him matching Thor, and not climbing higher quickly is simply the editorials way of keeping the fans of both happy.
Same way Superman is constantly touted as the biggest weapon DC Earth has, yet whenever he faces Cap or Wonderwoman, his dominance isn't showcased.....
So as not to alienate either group of fans.DD, doesn't dwarf Hulk in strength at the onset. He might have the edge, but it can be lost in seconds.
Lastly, DD has been killed by the same means twice.
Radiant killed him in a blast of pure energy, and Imperiex vaped him with a blast of energy.
The forumlore of DD has gotten out of control.
And he doesn't consistently speedblitz, if thats even what it can be called.
Hulk can win some, as can DD.
I'll call it down the middle.
And to whoever said Hulk is a Grundy rip off.........True enough, but Whirly, Superman is clearly based off of Doc Savage.
Superman is based on many mythological and fictonal figures, not only Doc Savage, a small part, but still you are correct, to a very small part. But he is the first real superheroe, a unique creation of imagination, there was no one like him before he appeared. SO he was the first.
Read and enjoy.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/8580/Hist1.html
"People often bring up Doc Savage as being a Superman prototype, but really it was Mort Weisinger that started stealing Doc riffs for Superman in the fifties and sixties. I think it was Weisinger’s co-opting of Doc’s arctic Fortress of Solitude, especially, that gets people making the direct connection."
BTW it is common knowledge that Superman was created 1933 😉 he appeared just 1938 and started it all.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That scan clearly says, THE STRUGGLE BETWEEN US HAS SHATTERED THE TIME AND SPACE BARRIERS.
Damn. I debunked those same scans like a week ago.
Anyone who's seen, or read any SciFi movies or novels that deal with time travel, or alternate universes, would know that anytime two of the same guy from two separate universes get together, time and space and the rules that exist between them become skewed.
Its not to be taken literally as they punched through the barriers of time and space. Read something other than comics.... Please.
Ever heard of hyperbole?
Its not hyperbole. Have you actually read the comic in question rather than just that scan? Superman repeatably thinks that reality is shattering purely because of the force of the blows. It is never even implied that it is happening because they are the same person.
Your claims have no evidence backing them up.
The comic from both Superman's points of view. The text is valid. Especially because reality is shown to be shattering on panel.
