Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Except for the fact that Exar can pwn leaders of the Jedi Order, Yoda can't. He can't pwn people of his own position. He's better, but he won't be pwning any of them.
Yes, and I suppose you conveniently forgot that the PT Jedi as a whole would WTFPwn Exar Kun's Jedi Order. At the same time Yoda CAN defeat everybody in his order.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Except for the fact that Exar can pwn leaders of the Jedi Order, Yoda can't. He can't pwn people of his own position. He's better, but he won't be pwning any of them.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Also, didnt Yoda tool some masters (multiple) without even attacking? Pretty impressive to me.
Originally posted by Lightsnake.
Yoda can do so actually, and yoda is the leader of a stronger Jedi Order, and he's stronger than anyone Exar faced, or anyone in Exar's time and that's plain fact
So what. On the same note, Exar is stronger than anyone Yoda has faced. What's your point? Wxar wtfpwned everyone he fought. The people he fought were weaker than Yoda, but not by so much as that it isn't enough for Exar to win. Get that through your head.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
.So what. On the same note, Exar is stronger than anyone Yoda has faced. What's your point? Wxar wtfpwned everyone he fought. The people he fought were weaker than Yoda, but not by so much as that it isn't enough for Exar to win. Get that through your head.
Stronger than anyone Yoda faced? Stronger that Mace? Stronger than Sidious?
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
.So what. On the same note, Exar is stronger than anyone Yoda has faced. What's your point? Wxar wtfpwned everyone he fought. The people he fought were weaker than Yoda, but not by so much as that it isn't enough for Exar to win. Get that through your head.
Exar wtfpwned people of no significance! (WOW!)
Exar never fought anyone to Yoda's power (WOW!)
Palpatine is stronger than Exar as of ROTs (Confirmed in several sources! WOW!)
Yoda>Exar by all feats (And the facts sort of showed you were unable to contest this) (WOW!)
Yoda and Palpatine>Exar (WOW!)
Get it through your head already. You admitted you held Exar in higher esteem and need to get over the fact he's not stronger than him. The quote "Most powerful sIth in history." is not ambiguous, especially when Wallace confirmed what his intentions were. Stover's opinion is not ambiguous, considering he said thanks to Lucas's confirmation it's as close to SW fact as he can get. Exar's co-creator said that Lucas was heavily involved in TOTJ and he believes his intention was that Yoda is well above Exar (After saying without any hesitance that Yoda is above Exar and the Ancients)
Palpatine also has far more knowledge than Exar by ROTS (Want to deny this? Did Exar have decades? Dod Exar have forgotten Sith artifacts dating far back to the Ancient Empire not limited to Sadow's leftovers? Did exar have direct access to the spirits of the ancients and numerous Sith holocrons? No? Ok)
Get.
Over.
It.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
You're going to stop this: NEC and ROTS novelization prove you dead wrong.
It's SW fact Exar is weaker and the official sources confirm thois. Get this through your head.Exar wtfpwned people of no significance! (WOW!)
Exar never fought anyone to Yoda's power (WOW!)
Palpatine is stronger than Exar as of ROTs (Confirmed in several sources! WOW!)
Yoda>Exar by all feats (And the facts sort of showed you were unable to contest this) (WOW!)
Yoda and Palpatine>Exar (WOW!)Get it through your head already. You admitted you held Exar in higher esteem and need to get over the fact he's not stronger than him. The quote "Most powerful sIth in history." is not ambiguous, especially when Wallace confirmed what his intentions were. Stover's opinion is not ambiguous, considering he said thanks to Lucas's confirmation it's as close to SW fact as he can get. Exar's co-creator said that Lucas was heavily involved in TOTJ and he believes his intention was that Yoda is well above Exar (After saying without any hesitance that Yoda is above Exar and the Ancients)
Palpatine also has far more knowledge than Exar by ROTS (Want to deny this? Did Exar have decades? Dod Exar have forgotten Sith artifacts dating far back to the Ancient Empire not limited to Sadow's leftovers? Did exar have direct access to the spirits of the ancients and numerous Sith holocrons? No? Ok)
Get.
Over.
It.
Lucas even said that Anakin was as strong as the Emperor but according to his own movies, this is not the case.
And provide us a written canon source in which it is said that Yoda is far above Kun.
Kun is more dangerous then Yoda. This has been proven when he fought against DE Luke and nearly destroyed him.
And DE Luke was not at all weak.
Lucas says anakin had the potential, but it was cut on Mustafar.
And Kun did not fight DE Luke: He attacked a distracted DE Luke trying not to hurt his apprentice from behind-WOW! How POWERFUL! I guess Han Solo is better than Palpatine!
And Yoda is the strongest Jedi up to ROTS, period. Confirmed in the Lucas word by word approved ROTS novelization. PAlpatine is the strongest Sith in history, according to several sources. Yoda and Palpatine are equals. Ergo...Now you see?
Looks like you underestimate Yoda. Unless you can argue with direct canon...well, denial's the first stage, I think.
Nobody's arguing with direct canon lightsnake, you're the only one who is illogically trying to tell us that Yoda is far above Kun which is clearly not the case. Your quotes as usual mean nothing in terms of how far below Kun is. In fact he has more offensive weapons but Yoda has more overall weapons and defenses.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Lucas says anakin had the potential, but it was cut on Mustafar.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
And Kun did not fight DE Luke: He attacked a distracted DE Luke trying not to hurt his apprentice from behind-WOW! How POWERFUL! I guess Han Solo is better than Palpatine!
When Kyp (possessed by Kun's spirit) attacked Luke, he fought back as best as he could but he still failed. He could not defend against Kun's techniques and thus lost. This is surely an impressive achievement by a 4000 year old spirit.
And it took the combined efforts of all Luke's Jedi apprentices, Luke's own spirit and Vodo's spirit to stop and defeat Kun's ancient spirit. Now imagine that how strong was Kun.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
And Yoda is the strongest Jedi up to ROTS, period. Confirmed in the Lucas word by word approved ROTS novelization. PAlpatine is the strongest Sith in history, according to several sources. Yoda and Palpatine are equals. Ergo...Now you see?
And Sidious is the strongest Sith Lord in Bane's Rule of Two Lineage.
SW Databank: He is the most powerful practitioner of the Sith ways in modern times.
And power is also an ambiguous thing.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Looks like you underestimate Yoda. Unless you can argue with direct canon...well, denial's the first stage, I think.
I recognize Yoda's position and consider him to be among the TOP 5 Jedi of all times in the Star Wars Saga.