Originally posted by IceJaw
My bad, I meant to say crappiest Wiimote clone so far. As in it still has a lot to prove.Sure all the vehicles have different weight, but I wasn't referring to all the vehicles, only the lighter ones but mainly the bikes. On the heavier ones the Sixaxis controls works fine in comparison.
Why are you being so defensive about the PS3 and why are you treating me as some 360 fanboy? I have both systems myself so I have an educated opinion and NEWSFLASH; it's my opinion. My post wasn't even directed agains't you, what's with you? I answered Astrofan's question, what the hell?
Again with the treating me like a fanboy and acting like a fanboy yourself, what makes you think Halo 3's gonna put out my thirst after another GTA game?
Oh yeah, if you want to keep up with this discussion go to the next-gen thread.
It’s a lengthly post, but i feel obliged to it, so please bear with me
First, let me say I must apologize if you felt I was rude or I treated you like a fanboy, for that I’m sorry.
However, I won’t apologize for using your post to make my point (which is just my opinion)
I know your post wasn’t directed at me, my post however, was directed initially at you (up until the “crappiest clone” bit), because I felt you were making a bit of a halfassed remarked about the Sixaxis. Let me explain myself better:
You wrote: “Hah, have you tried winning a race in Motorstorm using the sixaxis controls? Nearly impossible and the steering is...
....Holding the controler with your hands only causes your car/bike/ATV to flip upside-down/fall off your bike/ATV during jumps. Why? 'Cause it's nearly impossible to hold the damn thing flat/straight and even the slightest backwards or forwards tilt can cause what I just said, it's like you have put it on a table but if you do that, how are you supposed to hold the controler? I don't know.”
Notice the part you say “car/bike/ATV”?. You’re referring to every vehicle in the game (well, not trucks so it’s no every one of’em)
Now, in your latest post you wrote: ” Sure all the vehicles have different weight, but I wasn't referring to all the vehicles, only the lighter ones but mainly the bikes. On the heavier ones the Sixaxis controls works fine in comparison.”
You are contradicting yourself here. I could make a “smartass” remark, making fun of your contradiction, but I chose not to. I’m, however, gonna explain my point a little better:
Think of the way you handle/drive a bike in real life; you must balance yourself in it so you won’t fall, when in a curve, not only do you turn the handle, but you put a little bit of your weight/body towards the direction you want to turn, especially at high speed and sharp curves, put to much weight in it, and you’re most likely to end up falling. The same applies for jumps, move your body forward/backwards and the bike will tilt in that direction to make backflips and stuff (I think you’ve played previous GTA’s and done Unique Jumps with a bike, so you know this is true). The same thing with ATV’s, only that they rest in 4 wheels. Cars and Trucks also rest in 4 wheels parallel to the surface they’re in, whether this is flat or a slightly/very pronounced incline. Your body won’t make much difference.. you get this feeling while using the Sixaxis in Motorstorm.
If you don’t like it, at least you got the option to turn it off.
I was a little bit rude to you with the “crappiest clone” bit, I’m sorry for that too, sometimes I let the my inner fanboy get the best out of me. But I was joking, actually everytime I use smilies, I’m joking, just looke at my previous posts (that doesn’t mean what I’m saying isn’t true), that’s why I didn’t respond to Astrofan, cuz I knew he was joking.
What I wrote afterwards It’s just my personal input, my opinion. You think they shouldn’t use sixaxis to drive bike/vehicles and I say different. If R* wants to make GTA IV feel more real, why wouldn’t they take advantage of Sixaxis in making driving a car feel “realistic”?, It’s up to them to come up with an amazing controller set up, but if they’ve said the 360/PS3 versions are exactly the same, they’re better off not using it.
I’m not defending PS3, I don’t own an Xbox 360 or a PS3 (heck, I’m still waiting for my Wii, which I hopefully will get by the end of this month) It’s just that it gets tiring to read about how sucky it is, when it hasn’t even got a chance to get properly going, there’s still time for it to get better, xbots and sony foeboys (the opposite of fanboys) just won’t shut up. I talk for what I’ve experienced, and neither of them it’s the best, that’s still to be determined. It’s a good thing you got both. But I’m assuming you will rather pick the GTA IV’ 360 version over the PS3’. I might be wrong.
The last bit wasn’t directed at you personally, but to all 360 owners who act like xbots talking crap about everyone's else but their consoles. I should’ve been more specific.
I’ve never treated you like a Fanboy before, if you’re referring to the Tar and Feathers pic, it wasn’t really intended to you. It was a joke. I thought you were joking too. I’m sorry but hating Sony for being blame for the delay it’s a tad stupid. If it’s anyone fault it’s R* for not considering how long it’ll take them to finish the PS port, and agreeing to a simultaneous release. Actually they initially complained about the 360’s DVD not being able to hold much data, and how that was going to be a problem for them (yet another evidence of GTA IV being somewhat of a PS3 exclusive)
Halo 3: If you got a 360, I assumed you’ll be one of many to eagerly await for it. Again, this wasn’t solely directed to you, but to everyone else. If you’re part of the “strongest holiday lineup ever in the history of gaming” 🙄 beneficiaries lucky enough to be able to afford all ten or so games, you’ll have your hands busy while waiting for a much (hopefully) improved GTA IV, why complain?
I won’t go to next gen thread. I rest my case here, I’m not interested in flame wars.
Originally posted by xNIXSONx
i dont think any future xbox's will go the way of motion sensing controls, the 360 is focusing mainly on software and titles to pull through and they have the strongest holiday lineup ever in the history of gaming entertainment.many people are definately fascinated about this way of gaming(wii), but theres just as much people that prefer the original controller way, and many people think the wii type controls is definately not going to be the future of gaming.
i think we're all trying to say that most of the sixaxis stuff in most games are half assed (mutliplatform games)
In all seriousness, I think you’re wrong. Motion sensor may not be the future of gaming, but it’s here to stay. It depends on the games, for certain games, it’s the perfect way to play them, it makes easier to play others, and it won’t matter in the rest. I know wii multiplatform games are all (or can easily be) PS2 ports, but there’s no denying they make most games fun to play. This will be a long debate, like the one with mouse/keyboard being better for FPS than a console controller, or a big round stick being perfect for fighting games, but motion sensor it’s here to stay, and microsoft will sooner or later jump in the same wagon.
There’s no denying the sixaxis is a wiimote clone, and was thrown in late as a last resort. (or it could have been planned sooner, but I don’t believe a word of Sony’s statements) and multiplatform games, don’t make use of it as much, or as good as, they should, but that’s not Sony’s fault. The few Sony exclusives, and other, are just beginning to tap into it’s potential. It’s soon to decide whether it’s a flop or not, plus there’s rumors of the rumble feature implemented in future games such as MGS4, but they're just rumors