Akuma vs Ayane

Originally posted by Remulous
Oro most likely can, Gen does not need to, he can kill people with touches, no one in DOA can do that. If Gouken wanted to he probaly could.

Originally posted by Remulous
Rugal did it and the main reason why the KOF cast is so strong is because there are like over 70 characters and there are a shit laod of bosses.

Rugal did it to the KOF 95' rooster, it's not like he pwned every character in the history of KOF which is what I meant.

Originally posted by Remulous
C'mon Ashtar, let's not be so literal. Most will agree that Hayabusa will loose in H2H Even the fans, which they already have.

I don't have a problem with them agreeing, it's an opinion after all. I'm just curious as to why he can't defeat gouki in H2H?

How did these fans draw their conclusion and why?

It's Gouki's power level, feats, capabilities and techniques.

In H2H, the only thing that impressed me about Hayabusa (As well as being the only time I see him teleport in mid battle) is the Izuna Drop. Now the Izuna is nothing special, especially since Vega does the same attack.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
It's Gouki's power level, feats, capabilities and techniques. [/B
In H2H, the only thing that impressed me about Hayabusa (As well as being the only time I see him teleport in mid battle) is the Izuna Drop. Now the Izuna is nothing special, especially since Vega does the same attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LpTk6OLV8A

So, this isn't impressive?

Note: his agility, projectiles, speed, etc

EDIT: And his ninpo's

Err, I can't use Youtube, my Flash Player died some time ago.

He has a possibility to win, I'm not saying he stands no chance in any given circumstance (though I know you aren't saying I said that).

I'm just curios because I'm hearing things like "Hayabusa can't win without the sword", "Gouki can jump into space", "All of hayabusa's weapons are plot devices" and it seems there is alot of bias against busa'

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
But, that isn't my point though Remulous, What I'm trying to say is that just because hayabusa doesn't cause ridiules amounts of damage to his surroundings doesn't mean he can't stand against gouki. Oh, and Gen Fu believe can kill with a blow.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

Rugal did it to the KOF 95' rooster, it's not like he pwned every character in the history of KOF which is what I meant.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

I don't have a problem with them agreeing, it's an opinion after all. I'm just curious as to why he can't defeat gouki in H2H?

How did these fans draw their conclusion and why?

You should have seen Clouds debating style then Emp, he made Luffyjin look good...

Look, I honestly don't think Haya can win without the sword... he hasn't really demonstrated anything that Akuma hasn't dealt with before, why don't you tell us why you think he should win?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You shouldhave seen Clouds debating style then Emp, he made Luffyjin look good...

Look, I honestly don't think Haya can win without the sword... he hasn't really demonstratedanything that Akuma hasn't dealtwith before, why don't you tellus why you think he should win?

Gouki could've stood in 1 spot and threw Gou Hadoukens and blew up every air craft.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You should have seen Clouds debating style then Emp, he made Luffyjin look good...

Yet another who agrees. I miss luffyjin though, that guy was just sheer fun, but you have to give them some benefit of the doubt, luffy was about 13 when he joined.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
😆

Yet another who agrees. I miss luffyjin though, that guy was just sheer fun, but you have to give them some benefit of the doubt, luffy was about 13 when he joined.

And for the record, DSZ agreed with me. He does not think any version of Akuma would defeat Trance Kuja, nor does he think G. Rugal can overcome the VE, or Vegnagun. That was my point throughout the entire debate.

Yes, I did say that... and Cloud did say that without the weapons, Ryu loses to Akuma... is that not enough to end the hostilities here?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Agrees with what? Your attempt at making people think that I'm a fanboy failed miserably, and I've argued characters who are leagues above Akuma would tear him apart. All you did was resort to insults and a popularity contest right after I proved you wrong with facts.

What popularity contest, I said that it's stupid to ask who agreed with me when it's obvious that no one has said I was wrong yet. You brought it up, I commented that it was stupid. Oh and don't think I've weaseled out of anything, I've been a bit busy with your post. You haven't proved anything but laid accusations down all over the place.

And here you go again bringing up things that I didn't say, another reason why you suck.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Yes, I did say that... and Cloud did say that without the weapons, Ryu loses to Akuma... is that not enough to end the hostilities here?

1. I didn't say anything to him first in both threads brought up, and this one.

2. People were telling me about him on my forum and I was the last person to conclude about him.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I didn't make anyone believe anything. You were laughed at throughout the entire page.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Proved me wrong with facts, did you do this by calling everyone fanboys and being a hypocrite?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
We just think you are a lousy debator, simple.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not to mention you insulted everyone on THIS thread and followed me around? Ha, you have to be kidding.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What popularity contest, I said that it's stupid to ask who agreed with me when it's obvious that no one has said I was wrong yet.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You brought it up, I commented that it was stupid. Oh and don't think I've weaseled out of anything, I've been a bit busy with your post. You haven't proved anything but laid accusations down all over the place.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
About what I've proved: 1- Trance Kuja can crush Akuma, when Akuma isn't holding back. Kuja can destory an entire planet in a matter of seconds; he can wipe Akuma TFO. The moment anyone proves otherwise, I'll say Kuja wouldn't beat Akuma. That's 1. 2- The Vigoor Emperor can destroy G. Rugal, with ease. He holds the power of all the evil deities, Vigoor being one of those deities. As it's been proven earlier, Vigoor split the Earth with his power. He can split G. Rugal in half, or wipe him out completely. Not only was the VE infused with the power of the evil dieties, he possessed the power of the Dark Dragon, who alone can take G. Rugal out of existence in one assualt. That's 2. 3- Vegnagun can wipe out Akuma and G. Rugal together. One shot from it's gun can completely wipe out an entire planet.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And here you go again bringing up things that I didn't say, another reason why you suck.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Yes, I did say that... and Cloud did say that without the weapons, Ryu loses to Akuma... is that not enough to end the hostilities here?

Originally posted by Remulous
What SF tier would you place Hayabusa on with out his weapons and Nimpo, just his chi?

Ryu, Akuma, Bison, Guy, Gill, just to name a few.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
By a fool, and two others who've been called fanboys a number of times already.
What did you just say? Show me where I've called anyone a fanboy besides your thick-headed self, TP, who a number of people here thinks is fanboy, and Remulous. You also love to make up bullshit, saying that I contradict myself and that I'm a hypocrite. A worthless, pathetic nut you are.
I'm a lousy debator? I'm not the one who resorts to insults after being proved wrong with facts. So tell me, if I'm a lousy debator, what would that make you?
Please, enough with the bullshit. It's bad enough that you have to resort to insults when you've been proved wrong in a debate.
Every person with a brain wouldn't uselessly try to prove my facts otherwise. To this point, you threw insults and accomplished nothing, and your true argument was that I'm a hypocritical, illogical piece of shit, which is sad.
Actually, I've proved everything that I've argued, which is this:What things? You mean the fact that you've been throwing insults thoughout the entire debate since you couldn't do any better?

Is that not contradictory and hypocritical? 😉

But there is a thing of etiquette, and if insults bother you so much, let's get our points across without them from now on.

Fair?

Originally posted by Major Snafu
Ryu, Akuma, Bison, Guy, Gill, just to name a few.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I just want to point out how funny it is that you say I'm the one resorting to insults, when you are clearly insulting in every post the more frustrated you get Joeseph. 🙂

Is that not contradictory and hypocritical? 😉

But there is a thing of etiquette, and if insults bother you so much, let's get our points across without them from now on.

Fair?

I'll insult you if you insult me first. Plain and simple. Plus, it's frustrating having to deal with someone like you. What do you expect?