The Apocalypse Respect Thread · Comic Book 'Respect' Forum

demarius_b God_Emperor

And after that battle, Apocalypse was able to regenerate from a single drop of blood... He is the ultimate badass... put it like this, he's been defeated before, and he's come back always. How can someone who can control every molecule in their body, transfer their soul/essence/powers to new bodies, regenerate an entire new body from a drop of blood, and has a deal with the Celestials permanently die??

Apocalypse will always exist... his original intentions were to make the mutant race stronger... if Magneto was able to defeat him, the Apoc succeeded in that respect. Apocalypse reminds me of Doomsday though... you can't beat him the same way twice, he adapts quickly, and he'll always return even more powerful to challenge the planet.

On another note: if and when he does return from Celestial judgment, I wish Marvel upgrade him from Earth threat, to Universal threat, and have him stop fooling around in these BS storylines...

Xplosive Restricted

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
AoA wasn't that good anyhow.

It was the best.

Xplosive Restricted

Originally posted by demarius_b
he'll always return even more powerful to challenge the planet.

Not really, since his original body was destroyed. It seems, he cannot use his powerfs anymore to high extent.
All host bodies he uses, they burn quickly, they cannot contain his vast powers.

Bad Ash231 Harbinger of Dur

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Yeah. You pretty much got the right interpretation there. 😬 AoA wasn't that good anyhow.

The power levels in the AoA were fluctuating. A lot.

Apocalypse's power was said to be rivaled by Nate Grey, and yet, he got killed by Magneto.

So...

Less powerful Magneto >>>> Nate Grey and Apocalypse? 😐

Originally posted by Xplosive
Not really, since his original body was destroyed. It seems, he cannot use his powerfs anymore to high extent.
All host bodies he uses, they burn quickly, they cannot contain his vast powers.

I seriously doubt Marvel is going to bring that up again...

Ridley_Prime Smug icon slayer

Originally posted by demarius_b
And after that battle, Apocalypse was able to regenerate from a single drop of blood...

Um, I think that was the end of it actually. He didn't regenerate from what I remember, as he was left for dead by Magneto (as far as AoA goes, but like I said, it's non-canon).

Originally posted by demarius_b
and has a deal with the Celestials permanently die??

Nope. It didn't die.

Quoted from Ash on page 2 of this thread:

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
The Celestials granted Apocalypse one of their ships, and technology, in exchange for something from Apocalypse, which they will return in the next millennia to ask for.
Apocalypse here is dieing and accepts death rather than the Celestials. However, the Celestials revives Apocalypse, and tells him that time has come for him to pay his part of the bargain (Which has yet to be revealed).

^^^

Originally posted by demarius_b
Apocalypse reminds me of Doomsday though... you can't beat him the same way twice, he adapts quickly, and he'll always return even more powerful to challenge the planet.

Yep. Poor Supes 😛 (Doomsday killed him from what I remember)...

Originally posted by demarius_b
On another note: if and when he does return from Celestial judgment, I wish Marvel upgrade him from Earth threat, to Universal threat, and have him stop fooling around in these BS storylines...

I... guess I agree (as far as the storylines that are non-canon). Apocalypse does have the potential to become a universal threat, after all.

Originally posted by Xplosive
It was the best.

I hope you were joking there...

Aside from the ending, it was okay to me, though I can't see why others disliked/hated it. Either way, it was far from the best.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Not really, since his original body was destroyed. It seems, he cannot use his powerfs anymore to high extent.

Damn Cyclops. 😠

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
The power levels in the AoA were fluctuating. A lot.
Apocalypse's power was said to be rivaled by Nate Grey, and yet, he got killed by Magneto.
So...
Less powerful Magneto >>>> Nate Grey and Apocalypse? 😐
I seriously doubt Marvel is going to bring that up again...

Yeah, I know.

That never did add up in the end...

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I seriously doubt Marvel is going to bring that up again...

Meh. They might, but chances are, they won't, which is good.

demarius_b God_Emperor

Ash and Prime, the question is, couldn't Magneto have done that to nearly anyone who was stupid enough to let him. Apocalypse was cocky in that fight, he was easily far stronger than Magneto. Come on, he was toying with Magneto. Earlier, it was Magneto and Nate Grey teamed up against him, and at best they were just holding him back, cuz as soon as Holocaust showed up, Apoc was quickly all in Magneto's face!!

What Magneto did took a lot of concentration and time to build up enough to rip him apart. I could see that easily happening to Hulk, Thanos, and many others, if they gave Magneto enough time to do it without finishing him off, no matter how strong they are physically. To tear someone apart on the atomic level isn't a physical feat, but one based off the nature of his powers.

In other timelines (what if's?? if guess) Apocalypse and Magneto have either killed each other, bested one or the other, or have come to a stalemate. All I know is, in the end... Magneto will eventually die from a battle or from old age, and Apocalypse will always find someway to return. Since the AoA universe didn't happen in the 616 continuity, we'll never know if he eventually returned or not...

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Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I hope you were joking there...
Aside from the ending, it was okay to me, though I can't see why others disliked/hated it. Either way, it was far from the best.

No, I wasn't. It was the best for me. It was epic, outstanding, except the ending, but it had to end it somehow.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Damn Cyclops. 😠

It wasn't only Cyclops.

Bad Ash231 Harbinger of Dur

Originally posted by demarius_b
Ash and Prime, the question is, couldn't Magneto have done that to nearly anyone who was stupid enough to let him.

To Apocalypse, it shouldn't...

He already has control over his atomic structure...

alfmartinez Member

that is the part i was angry about.

atomic level... maybe subatomic level of control. and being killed like that?
also.. he was broken in half.. there is more than a drop of his blood to come back.. but he didn't. It ended there.

how's that he wasn't strong enough as to finish magneto and nate grey quickly?

Ridley_Prime Smug icon slayer

Originally posted by demarius_b
Ash and Prime, the question is, couldn't Magneto have done that to nearly anyone who was stupid enough to let him. Apocalypse was cocky in that fight, he was easily far stronger than Magneto. Come on, he was toying with Magneto. Earlier, it was Magneto and Nate Grey teamed up against him, and at best they were just holding him back, cuz as soon as Holocaust showed up, Apoc was quickly all in Magneto's face!!
What Magneto did took a lot of concentration and time to build up enough to rip him apart. I could see that easily happening to Hulk, Thanos, and many others, if they gave Magneto enough time to do it without finishing him off, no matter how strong they are physically. To tear someone apart on the atomic level isn't a physical feat, but one based off the nature of his powers.
In other timelines (what if's?? if guess) Apocalypse and Magneto have either killed each other, bested one or the other, or have come to a stalemate. All I know is, in the end... Magneto will eventually die from a battle or from old age, and Apocalypse will always find someway to return. Since the AoA universe didn't happen in the 616 continuity, we'll never know if he eventually returned or not...

Well, I wasn't trying to imply that Magneto's superior to Apocalypse just because of what happened in AoA or anything. 😬
But yeah. I agree with most of what you said there.

Originally posted by Xplosive
No, I wasn't. It was the best for me. It was epic, outstanding, except the ending, but it had to end it somehow.

Hmm. I guess...

Since it was the Age of Apocalypse though, you'd think the writers would have the ending tip in Apoc's favor, rather than the other way around.

Originally posted by Xplosive
It wasn't only Cyclops.

Yeah. I know, but it was mostly Scott Summers (using an enhanced Optic blast from Phoenix's & Nathan's powers to destroy Apocalypse's original body on the moon, forcing Apocalypse to accidently take over his body instead of Nate Grey's body in The Twelve saga, etc).

Originally posted by alfmartinez
how's that he wasn't strong enough as to finish magneto and nate grey quickly?

Hmm. Beats me. 😬

Alfheim Junior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Yeah.....it kinda makes Magneto look like a dick, doesn't it?

Respect to Apoc..... but no it doesnt. 😐

Rhinoceros PM me for nudes ;)

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Apocalypse has super-breath. Take that Superman! 😛

I already posted those 😐

Neo Darkhalen Mission zero

Wow finally I found it, the Respect the Apocalypse thread yes.

Ridley_Prime Smug icon slayer

Originally posted by Alfheim
Respect to Apoc..... but no it doesnt. 😐

Well, compared to what Apocalypse went through in his early years, yeah. It kinda does make Magneto look like a dick (in a way), but I guess that's just a matter of opinion. 😬

Originally posted by Rhinoceros
I already posted those 😐

You did? Huh. Well... I guess the thread author just had to think of something to post & keep this topic alive. 😛
Meh. I don't know.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Wow finally I found it, the Respect the Apocalypse thread yes.

Oh, it's you. Welcome to the Apoc. respect thread. clap

Bad Ash231 Harbinger of Dur

Handbook Bios

GHOTMU #01 (1988)

OHOTMU Update '89 (1989)

OHOTMU v3 Master Edition (1991)

OHOTMU v4 (2005)

Ridley_Prime Smug icon slayer

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Handbook Bios
GHOTMU #01 (1988)

"Apocalypse has the Engineering talent, and his Reason is considered Amazing in the fields of hi-tech device creation and repairs."

Although not surprising, that is rather interesting to know, especially coming from a bio that was made in 1988.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
OHOTMU Update '89 (1989)

"Strength level: Apocalypse possesses superhuman strength. Since he can increase his strength by drawing on external energy sources, there is no known limit to Apocalypse's physical strength."

Um, yay? 😛 Not quite sure what to say to that since it's from a bio from 18 years ago 😬 (and the fact it didn't even know what his real name is or where he was born, as neither of those were revealed at the time apparently).

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
OHOTMU v3 Master Edition (1991)

"Strength: Since Apocalypse can increase by drawing on outside energy sources, his strength is potentially incalculable.

Flight speed: Supersonic"

Another 'yay'! clap

As for the rest of the stuff, don't really have anything in particular to say about that, but it was all still an interesting read nonetheless 👆 (even though I already knew most of it).

Neo Darkhalen Mission zero

Cool.

demarius_b God_Emperor

I had to go back and look at my X-cutioner's Song collection. In Part 8 (X-force #17), there is a clear panel showing Apocalypse leading his forces against rebels, and an ADULT Stryfe in the battle.

My question is... in the Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix, Apocalypse was supposedly killed, right??? When he tried to transfer his essence to a TEENAGE Stryfe.

Was he ressurected again?? Cuz obviously an Cable and Stryfe both hate his guts, and act like they been oppressed by him beyond their teenage years....

Bad Ash231 Harbinger of Dur

Originally posted by demarius_b
I had to go back and look at my X-cutioner's Song collection. In Part 8 (X-force #17), there is a clear panel showing Apocalypse leading his forces against rebels, and an ADULT Stryfe in the battle.
My question is... in the Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix, Apocalypse was supposedly killed, right??? When he tried to transfer his essence to a TEENAGE Stryfe.
Was he ressurected again?? Cuz obviously an Cable and Stryfe both hate his guts, and act like they been oppressed by him beyond their teenage years....

In Cable (2nd series) #6, Zero refers to Apocalypse as the ruler of the Canaanite Regime. However the Canaanites only came to power years after Apocalypse perished in Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix #4. Additionally Apocalypse is indeed shown fighting alongside the Canaanites in one of the holographic images that Cable shows to Bishop and Logan in X-Force #17. It set only shortly before adult Cable travels to the present.

Basically this is a problem of two writers ignoring each other's plots. Both Cable #6 and X-Force #17 were written by Nicieza. When Scott Lobdell later wrote the limited series Askani’Son and Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix, he killed Apocalypse, leaving the problem of how he can later be alive and work together with the Canaanites. Possibly this dangler will never be explained, as the Askani timeline has been erased.

demarius_b God_Emperor

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
In Cable (2nd series) #6, Zero refers to Apocalypse as the ruler of the Canaanite Regime. However the Canaanites only came to power years after Apocalypse perished in Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix #4. Additionally Apocalypse is indeed shown fighting alongside the Canaanites in one of the holographic images that Cable shows to Bishop and Logan in X-Force #17. It set only shortly before adult Cable travels to the present.
Basically this is a problem of two writers ignoring each other's plots. Both Cable #6 and X-Force #17 were written by Nicieza. When Scott Lobdell later wrote the limited series Askani’Son and Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix, he killed Apocalypse, leaving the problem of how he can later be alive and work together with the Canaanites. Possibly this dangler will never be explained, as the Askani timeline has been erased.

Well, in the AofC&P, it is shown that Apocalypse's current body was withered and old. In the X-force holographic image showing Apocalypse and the Canaanites, which takes places years later, Apocalypse looks like normal, 20th century Apoc. Could be he was resurrected, different timeline, or that like you said... Marvel writers made a boo-boo. Happens all the time, look at the Terminator series.

Given the nature of Apoc's powers... I'd go with the resurrection theory, but since the timeline doesn't exist anymore it doesn't matter. I wonder when Apoc came to power in the Askani timeline, what was he doing in the Days of Future's Past and Bishop's timeline, and what would the time where Cable was raised look like now???