Originally posted by carver9That is one block. 😛
Im not saying that youre wrong and Im not saying that youre right. People have there opinions and no matter what I say or what I do, Im not going to change your opinion and I respect that but there havent been any instances in comics that have proven to me that spiderman can beat wolverine or sabertooth. I have witness wolverine beating spiderman but never the opposite. Also batman has tossed and kicked hulk in the stomach, hes also tossed superman to the side but does that mean that he can beat either. So why bring up spiderman tossing wolverine to the side, who hasnt tossed wolverine to the side, he aint nothing but 5'3 and weight 300 lbs, its not hard, a deer did it. Does that mean that everybody can beat him, no. The point that Im trying to make is that when spiderman fight fighters he do a terrible job. Ex... elektra beat him, Silver samarai beat him, captain america beat him, daredevil beat him, even king pin beat him, low level fighters like king pin even beat him. The reason why these people beat him is because even though spiderman has a spidersense they are tactical fighters and they finds ways of over coming obsticles. If you gave wolverine or sabertooth a spider sense, no I wouldnt think that they were a god, they dont need it, they have enhanced senses of there own. Also in the marvel directory it states that sabertooth has mastered multiples of unarmed combat. His fighting experience is at 6 while caps is at 7, that seems pretty close to me. Do you want to know where king pin fighting experience is at, its at 3 and he beat spiderman up physically. Do you want to know where kraven fighting experience is at, its at 4 and he beat spiderman up physically. Do you want to know where vultures is at, its at 1, which means that he dont have any training under his belt and he land licks off of spiderman. Do you get what Im trying to tell you, sabertooth has more than a chance of getting to spiderman and doing what he want to him but thats all it would take is a good swipe and the fight is over. Sabertooth has dodge bullets, punches, laser beams, cyclops optic blast, and this is pre upgraded sabes, so why couldnt he dodge spiderman webbing. I might need to find a partner for spiderman in this fight, maybe he'll win then. Cant think of noone yet but I'll find someone that could assist him.
I agree that I won't force you to change your mind and etc etc. I don't think any of the guys are pushovers or anything.
Fighting experience? Spiderman has fought for a long time, and he also has intelligence and other things.
But I'll just leave it at this, does anyone have any statistical proof of Sabes at 20 tons? I remember it at 15.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That is one block. 😛I agree that I won't force you to change your mind and etc etc. I don't think any of the guys are pushovers or anything.
Fighting experience? Spiderman has fought for a long time, and he also has intelligence and other things.
But I'll just leave it at this, does anyone have any statistical proof of Sabes at 20 tons? I remember it at 15.
Hes not at 20 tons, hes at 15.
Originally posted by carver9lol, I get that alot. What's up man? 🙂
By the way, whats up c master, I just recognize who you are, you changed your picture. Im use to seeing, Im guessing that was you on your profile. I forgot to come to your web site, I still have the email you sent me, I'll try to go on there 2day.
I'll be glad to have you there of course.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Enter rabid Wolverine supporter who took my argument, and misconstrued it in the glory of his character. Like I predicted would happen.Are we playing the featwar game? Spiderman's webbing has held stronger than class 20, and can we go back to where Morlun was classified at only that much? Go and statistically prove to me that Sabes is class 20 since you made that claim on Morlun
just a question here: but, what do you mean by statistically prove?
is the fact that sabretooth and spiderman are on the same statistical strength level on the marvel power chart the proof you're asking for here?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And preupgraded Sabretooth got his ass handed to him by characters like DD and Black Cat way back in the day.
just thought I'd point out:
dd didn't hand sabretooth his ass.. it ended with sabretooth going nuts and running amok through the tunnels with DD too injured to follow.
and black cat had newfound superpowers rivaling spiderman's so it was well within her ability to put down creed who didn't even have a healing factor written into his character yet.
This is funny.
Sabretooth fast??? 😱
Spider-man is far faster and more agile that the likes of Sabretooth who struggles to keep up with Wolverine in most fights. Spiderman if he wanted could get minimum 2-3 clean strikes in before Sabretooth could counter...and Spidey would know when each of Sabretooth's hits are coming, and where they are coming from beforehand.
With his speed advantage he could give Sabretooth a solid beatdown for hours. And thats without making good use of webbing.
Sabretooth is traditionally shown equal to or in many cases slower than Wolverine during their fights (Check any of them out).....and everyone knows Wolverine is weighted down by an adamantium skeleton, and has no mutant speed enhancments!!!! 😖
There is no way in hell he is even close to Spidermans movement range.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
This is funny.Sabretooth fast??? 😱
Spider-man is far faster and more agile that the likes of Sabretooth who struggles to keep up with Wolverine in most fights. Spiderman if he wanted could get minimum 2-3 clean strikes in before Sabretooth could counter...and Spidey would know when each of Sabretooth's hits are coming, and where they are coming from beforehand.
With his speed advantage he could give Sabretooth a solid beatdown for hours. And thats without making good use of webbing.
Sabretooth is traditionally shown equal to or in many cases slower than Wolverine during their fights (Check any of them out).....and everyone knows Wolverine is weighted down by an adamantium skeleton, and has no mutant speed enhancments!!!! 😖
There is no way in hell he is even close to Spidermans movement range.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Im going to ignore you. You said that wolverine nor sabertooth has the speed to keep up with spiderman but captain america, kraven, kingpin, hulk, scorpion, elektra, daredevil, rhino, etc... has kept up and some have beaten him. You dont nothing of wolverine or sabertooth to even be on this forum voting against them. Wolverine has tagged speed demon, quicksilver, storm while flying at top speed etc..... and i consider all of them faster than spiderman.
Answer this question for me whos faster out of the three, wolverine, king pin, or vulture.
Originally posted by carver9
😆 😆 😆You have no idea what you are talking about. [b]Im going to ignore you.
You said that wolverine nor sabertooth has the speed to keep up with spiderman but captain america, kraven, kingpin, hulk, scorpion, elektra, daredevil, rhino, etc... has kept up and some have beaten him. You dont nothing of wolverine or sabertooth to even be on this forum voting against them. Wolverine has tagged speed demon, quicksilver, storm while flying at top speed etc..... and i consider all of them faster than spiderman.Answer this question for me whos faster out of the three, wolverine, king pin, or vulture. [/B]
"Im going to ignore you."
And yet...you kept going. Interesting.
Originally posted by carver9
😆 😆 😆You have no idea what you are talking about. Im going to ignore you. You said that wolverine nor sabertooth has the speed to keep up with spiderman but captain america, kraven, kingpin, hulk, scorpion, elektra, daredevil, rhino, etc... has kept up and some have beaten him. You dont nothing of wolverine or sabertooth to even be on this forum voting against them. Wolverine has tagged speed demon, quicksilver, storm while flying at top speed etc..... and i consider all of them faster than spiderman.
Answer this question for me whos faster out of the three, wolverine, king pin, or vulture.
right - feel free to ignore my statements all you want. I said and I re-iterate...Sabretooth is generally not shown to be much faster than Wolverine in fights...if at ALL...and many times portrayed to be the slower but stronger of the two. If you doubt this check it out yourself.
Wolverine is NOT fast in comparison to Spidey. Who has Spidersense on top of a speed advantage.
He has an ADAMANTIUM-laced Skeleton for gods sakes.
You dont consider this on par or even close to spidey. Go read some more wolverine comics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p04.jpg
Do you see how far wolverine was away from him and he got there in the blink of a eye. HMMMMMMMMM makes you wonder.
Originally posted by carver9
You do know that flight and agility is two different things. I agree with you vulture can out fly wolverine since wolverine cant fly.
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its just that Vulture generally propells himself in his suit at a moments notice at speeds faster than wolverine can move.
Yes, that would count as agility.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
ok, put it this way, do you think Wolverine has super speed as one of his mutant abilities?
I think that he do have speed that came along with his powers but not super speed. Spiderman dont even have super speed, he have super human speed. Since the enhancement that weapon x gave to wolverine, I do think that he has speed under his belt, he has done to many speed blitz to not have any speed. Colossus even have superhuman speed.
Originally posted by carver9
I think that he do have speed that came along with his powers but not super speed. Spiderman dont even have super speed, he have super human speed. Since the enhancement that weapon x gave to wolverine, I do think that he has speed under his belt, he has done to many speed blitz to not have any speed. Colossus even have superhuman speed.
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Weapon X gave Wolverine no Super speed abilities. He is considered slightly above peak human...but was laced with Adamantium....now....without it(the laced skeleton), he would be faster, but still not in spiderman league in either running speed or agility.
