Originally posted by AlfheimI know, it was a joke... hence the shifty eyes 😛
I think I know the scene your talking about, but apparently Wolverine has had an upgarde since then. It could also be argued as a low showing.
I've actually been bashed.... hard, for even mentioning that feat before... it's still a cool feat for spiderman, though 😄
Originally posted by Rick/GenisWhich is my point entirely, we all pretty much know this if we just accept basic fact. People are just using feats to "show" things that they know themselves are illogical. I constantly prove how featwars are just circular/illogical argument, and Spiderman still won this featwar.
All I'm going to say is this... FEAT Wise... they're near equals... but so is batman/captain america/nightwing/gambit and MANY others.Reality does NOT = feats. Feats are just a good way of proving things on forums. The reality of the situation is that Spiderman has ALWAYS been known to be one of the fastest and most agile characters on marvel earth.
Originally posted by AlfheimSo has Spiderman. 😖hifty:
I think I know the scene your talking about, but apparently Wolverine has had an upgarde since then. It could also be argued as a low showing.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
All I'm going to say is this... FEAT Wise... they're near equals... but so is batman/captain america/nightwing/gambit and MANY others.Reality does NOT = feats. Feats are just a good way of proving things on forums. The reality of the situation is that Spiderman has ALWAYS been known to be one of the fastest and most agile characters on marvel earth.
and no one said he wasn't.. but does that mean his speed trumps logan's or any other streeters to any serious degree?
no...
and reality DOES = feats in comic books I'm afraid...
We base our interpretations on what characters can and can't do in how we see them portrayed... the stats and character bios or mythos are nothing without the stories that got them there.
Originally posted by capt it upNo, post a scan, don't sidetrack the debate by saying "nuh uh". You posted Logan attacking a CIS cyclops who was scared, he'd own logan on the forum.
have you read the issue? Logan sitting there means nothing when his body was full of purple goo.oh and like I said I match it all ready
Wolverine issue 40: wolverine dodges beams of light many of them while holding a girl.
by the way he dodge more beams of light in that issue then spiderman dodged lasers in the MU issue.
I want the scan up or a link, not a "I have tons more on me, but I have to go".
Originally posted by capt it upDon't try to reverse it on me, go and prove where he's stated as Superhuman. It's forum knowledge he's stated "at the top of human ability" in his character.
Logan has never once in comic been stated as peakhuman. prove it or stop saying it
Originally posted by marvelprince
Well this thread has sort of devolved in capt bashing the feat and saying that Spider-Man isn't fast enough to do it and that those guys were looking the other way and the rest of us arguing. Its not really a be-all end-all discusion or conclusive proof that Spider-Man is faster.As I've said before characters have similar feats regardless of speed level at times and the best way is to look at them when presented together.
And even then, we have a problem in spiderman being faster than wolverine.
Originally posted by jinzinNo because Flash and other characters are vastly underwritten for the sake of a plot, while some characters are written up.
and no one said he wasn't.. but does that mean his speed trumps logan's or any other streeters to any serious degree?no...
and reality DOES = feats in comic books I'm afraid...
We base our interpretations on what characters can and can't do in how we see them portrayed... the stats and character bios or mythos are nothing without the stories that got them there.
Messageboard is not a comic book.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
I know, it was a joke... hence the shifty eyes 😛I've actually been bashed.... hard, for even mentioning that feat before... it's still a cool feat for spiderman, though 😄
Yes it is. Pawned the whole of the xmen.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So has Spiderman. 😖hifty:
Yeah. Anyway I think Spiderman is faster but not by a huge amount.
Originally posted by marvelprinceIt's really just excuses like I expected, "we like our feats, but you can't use yours".
Well this thread has sort of devolved in capt bashing the feat and saying that Spider-Man isn't fast enough to do it and that those guys were looking the other way and the rest of us arguing. Its not really a be-all end-all discusion or conclusive proof that Spider-Man is faster.As I've said before characters have similar feats regardless of speed level at times and the best way is to look at them when presented together.
Originally posted by jinzinAnd that "we" is about 4 or five members who always defend Wolverine and STILL haven't matched the feats on the other page.
And even then, we have a problem in spiderman being faster than wolverine.
I thought you guys like posting scans. 😕
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No, post a scan, don't sidetrack the debate by saying "nuh uh". You posted Logan attacking a CIS cyclops who was scared, he'd own logan on the forum.I want the scan up or a link, not a "I have tons more on me, but I have to go".
Don't try to reverse it on me, go and prove where he's stated as Superhuman. It's forum knowledge he's stated "at the top of human ability" in his character.
again with the whole side track thing. I nto side trackign any thing I don OWN A ****ING SCANNER. OR DID YOU NTO HERE ME THE FIRST % ****ING TIMES?
ya it cis becuase it a wolverien feat, but of course the electro spiderman is fine.
when the **** have I ever said I have tons more one me, but I have to go? you act as if it an excuse and I don't actaully have to go.
what the forum thinks and what is fact is not the same thing
wolverine was stated in ultimate x-men guide in the back to have spiderman level stats. He strength was altered when he was put on the uncanny x-men and he was given a healing factor as well as real claws.
He was also stated in hulks ulitimate guide as superhuman strength.
He never once been stated in a single comic as peakhuman.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And that "we" is about 4 or five members who always defend Wolverine and STILL haven't matched the feats on the other page.I thought you guys like posting scans. 😕
No need to be uncivil. I haven't even started that yet. 😉
what feats are you talking about?
What feats do you think need to be matched here?
also **** you c-master.
please report it I really don't care I not taking your shit about how I am purposly side track and some other bull shit I would neevr purposly do. Now the fact I don't have a scanner is a big deal when it a known ****ing fact. Honestly if your gunna be an ass whole go f your self.
Originally posted by marvelprince
How? Presented together we still see Spider-Man flipping circles around him etc. Even in their fights if Logan was at fast as Spider-Man then Spider-man would be dead.
No if logan stopped holding back spiderman would be dead...
cemetery, rooftop, training session, punisher fight...
Wolverine had ample oppurtunity to kill spiderman in any one of these encounters.. he didn't.
I ask you were you've EVER see spiderman flipping circles around wolverine because frankly I haven't...
but I've only seen every encounter the two have had between them so what do I know?
Originally posted by jinzinThat's funny because Spiderman held back alot more in the same matches. 😆
No if logan stopped holding back spiderman would be dead...cemetery, rooftop, training session, punisher fight...
Wolverine had ample oppurtunity to kill spiderman in any one of these encounters.. he didn't.I ask you were you've EVER see spiderman flipping circles around wolverine because frankly I haven't...
but I've only seen every encounter the two have had between them so what do I know?