Originally posted by jinzinWhy doesn't the scan from CW count 😛
I glanced through it..All I saw was the feat from Civil War 7: which I already disproved as definitive proof in this debate.
The spiderman dodging electro's blasts feat: in regards to this we've seen wolverine dodge living lightning. He may not have produced the same amount of consisant agility there.. but at that point he didn't need to....
still it stands.. spiderman's fast enough to dodge electric currents; so to was wolverine.
And then the feat from MTU (what is that? 23 I think)...
Meh, Spiderman's hard to shoot and agile.. it's a good feat to show that he's hard to shoot.. and extremely agile.. it's not a good feat to show him faster than wolverine.. wolverine's dodged beams before too.. it's not a big deal. Hell he was noncholantly hopping around lazers as early as uncanny 106 and said it wasn't even hard for him to do.Did that feat prove spiderman's faster? No not really....
Let's also not forget how evil Iron man plucked spidey out of the air in that encounter as well.. it's really not a good speed feat of speed concerning h2h situations as much as dodging blasts that's for damned sure...did I miss any?
Originally posted by capt it upChange the subject, that's definitely you guys.
no post feats implies either issue and title or scanns. feats are either. tiltie and scanns are actaully superior info gven the fact that scanns are decievingwhat did I say to you? Nothing. I don't say random crap like your changing the subject or some stupid crap like that I never do it. when people do shit liek that and try to imply I am lieing or simply chnage the subject I get pissed off becuase it not only run, but ti bull shit that I don't do.
you stating that implies you think you or nothing of me and that jsut pissed me fof more. I like crap like that as an insult. hell you could tell me to got **** off and I would hardly care, but crap like that pisses me off.
again I posted my feat the issue and titlie you have to go and look it up your self
2. You seem frustrated for the feats that haven't been debunked.
3. You have a tendency to go "I'll prove it later" and never show up.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Change the subject, that's definitely you guys.2. You seem frustrated for the feats that haven't been debunked.
3. You have a tendency to go "I'll prove it later" and never show up.
bull shit to both of them. ecpt on your site since you always tell me to not bother.
actaully I mdebunk your feats it not my fault you don't allow issue numbers and titles as evidence. which by the way it is.
I also do not purposly change the subject ever in a heated debate. again you think so little of me how funny.
Originally posted by marvelprince
😂 I'm sure Wolverine had ample opportunity to kill Spider-Man in those fights, but he couldn't even though he was serious about it, which leads me to believe that he can't.
So when spiderman's unconcious on the ground and logan doesn't follow through with a deathblow... he can't kill spidey.
When he punches spiderman in the face with his claws retracted.. he can't kill spidey.
When he backhand spiderman in the face with claws retracted.. he can't kill spidey...
When he snatches spiderman by the throat and shoves his claws infront of spiderman's face.. he can't kill spidey....
So even though he has ample oppurtunity to kill spiderman and CHOOSES not to do so, that thereby means he's incapible of it?
wow.... 😐
just... wow....
I guess Venom must be friggin delusional when he thinks he can kill spiderman just because he's left him unconcious or humiliated on a dozen different occasions.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Cept for the training session, which I don't count as a feat for either cause they were sparring and then Logan wasn't to defend himself after.
You honestly think logan was trying to? 🤨
In spite of "I deserve this"? ..... hmmmm 😬
Originally posted by marvelprince
Guess it depends on your viewpoint though. Back to the graveyard fight though, remember all those unaswered blows to Wolverine's face (stay with me, whether or not they were effective or not proves Spider-Man does have the speed advantage)
Again, and "stay with me" here... just because logan CHOSE not to react... that makes spiderman faster?
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
well it helps to visualize things, since we don't all have every issue known to man...
looking them up is easy as hell.
also the visual can some times be qutie decieving. Take spidermans speed blizt the one were the guy in the cape is there. You would think the guy in the cape was a meta human, but he not.
Originally posted by jinzin
So when spiderman's unconcious on the ground and logan doesn't follow through with a deathblow... he can't kill spidey.When he punches spiderman in the face with his claws retracted.. he can't kill spidey.
When he backhand spiderman in the face with claws retracted.. he can't kill spidey...
When he snatches spiderman by the throat and shoves his claws infront of spiderman's face.. he can't kill spidey....
So even though he has ample oppurtunity to kill spiderman and CHOOSES not to do so, that thereby means he's incapible of it?
That sounds reasonable to me.
Originally posted by capt it upI tell you not to bother? When?
bull shit to both of them. ecpt on your site since you always tell me to not bother.actaully I mdebunk your feats it not my fault you don't allow issue numbers and titles as evidence. which by the way it is.
I also do not purposly change the subject ever in a heated debate. again you think so little of me how funny.
I don't think little of me at all, but you have brought Spiderman out of nowhere in a Wolverine debate frequently, and now you are denying the feat by pointing out little discrepancies that don't really matter. I post anything you don't like and it'll be denied.
If you think I'm being an *******, I'm sorry. But I can do alot better at that then you think, trust me. I've been rather nice to you compared to the likes of Jinzin, Cresh, Merc, or pointinel, I like you and I see you get picked on alot so I don't see the honor in trying to make fun of you or anything. But I definitely COULD, trust me.
Stay with me here. When Logan INTENDS to go for the kill and fails, it leads me to think that he can't. Most of the times you bring up are non-fights imo but lets un through this shall we
Originally posted by jinzin
When he punches spiderman in the face with his claws retracted.. he can't kill spidey.
Why do you think he was able to land that punch? Cause it wouldn't kill Spidey.
Originally posted by jinzin
When he backhand spiderman in the face with claws retracted.. he can't kill spidey...
Why do think he was able to land that backhand? Cause it wouldn't kill Spidey.
Originally posted by jinzin
When he snatches spiderman by the throat and shoves his claws infront of spiderman's face.. he can't kill spidey....
Why is this such a fav feat to use? Spider-Man doesn't even know this guy is Wolverine and yet it's the definitive Wolverine owns Spider-Man feat.
Originally posted by jinzin
So even though he has ample oppurtunity to kill spiderman and CHOOSES not to do so, that thereby means he's incapible of it?
When he has the intent to and fails then I say he's incapable.
Originally posted by jinzin
I guess Venom must be friggin delusional when he thinks he can kill spiderman just because he's left him unconcious or humiliated on a dozen different occasions.
Well Venom isn't exactly the picture of mental health is he?
Originally posted by jinzin
Again, and "stay with me" here... just because logan CHOSE not to react... that makes spiderman faster?
Again. Conjecture on your side. Show me where Logan think "Ah, I think I'll just relax while he wails on my face" and I'll take it back
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I tell you not to bother? When?I don't think little of me at all, but you have brought Spiderman out of nowhere in a Wolverine debate frequently, and now you are denying the feat by pointing out little discrepancies that don't really matter. I post anything you don't like and it'll be denied.
If you think I'm being an *******, I'm sorry. But I can do alot better at that then you think, trust me. I've been rather nice to you compared to the likes of Jinzin, Cresh, Merc, or pointinel, I like you and I see you get picked on alot so I don't see the honor in trying to make fun of you or anything. But I definitely COULD, trust me.
one thread I have not gotten back to was the whole kuwabara thread and that was just becuase newjack would go on for ever no matter what I brought to the table
who dening any thing? what did I deny? have I brought spiderman into a wolverien debate possiably I recall twice I did it.
I nevre denied the feat but the fact of the matter is the feat is being implied inccorectly unless thsoe bad guys are all idiots who run in straight lines to gather
go a head I don't care. picked on? You mean by some retards who don't know any thing about comics I could careless what they say or think. Most of them ressort to personal attacks as soon as they can not suport there claims. You wanna pick on me go right a head hell I dear you to you think I care? Not at all. unless you missed it I simply dislike being called a liar and some schemer. again you think so less of my it rather pethatic. GO a Head Bash Me. I honestly don't care what so ever your best bashing would not even come close to the bashing I have seen.
Originally posted by marvelprinceWhy do you think he was able to land that punch? Cause it wouldn't kill Spidey.
Why do think he was able to land that backhand? Cause it wouldn't kill Spidey.
I thought the point was that if Wolverine was really trying to kill him he would have had his claws out. A backhand with his claws out will do more damage than a normal backhand.
Originally posted by marvelprinceWhy is this such a fav feat to use? Spider-Man doesn't even know this guy is Wolverine and yet it's the definitive Wolverine owns Spider-Man feat.
Yeah but afterwards he states that the guy was almost as good or just as good and was still geting pawned.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Stay with me here. When Logan INTENDS to go for the kill and fails, it leads me to think that he can't. Most of the times you bring up are non-fights imo but lets un through this shall we
Why do you think he was able to land that punch? Cause it wouldn't kill Spidey.
Why do think he was able to land that backhand? Cause it wouldn't kill Spidey.Why is this such a fav feat to use? Spider-Man doesn't even know this guy is Wolverine and yet it's the definitive Wolverine owns Spider-Man feat.
Pretty much all youv'e got there was speculation...
period.
None of those were ever related to the excuses/reasons you just produced, those were nothing more than YOUR reasons/excuses.
Originally posted by marvelprince
When he has the intent to and fails then I say he's incapable.
the only time wolverine's ever intended to kill spiderman was in a what if story line.. and guess what happened. 😉
Originally posted by marvelprince
Well Venom isn't exactly the picture of mental health is he?
In spite of having spiderman at his mercy on any number of occasions?
Originally posted by marvelprince
Again. Conjecture on your side. Show me where Logan think "Ah, I think I'll just relax while he wails on my face" and I'll take it back
I shouldn't have to, anyone with half a brain can easily understand what's going on there...
His guard is up.. he states:
"here it comes"
Then he's getting wailed on with his guard dropped...
If you're going to try and argue that he couldn't do anything about it, I'll retort with this.
In that same fight we see wolverine dodge spiderman's punch.. we know he's fast enough to evade it...
In that same fight spiderman lands a punch but has to maneuver over wolverine to avoid his retaliation...
Spiderman hitting wolverine into the gravestone and the ideal that wolverine was helpless is contradicted by a couple of things.
The first being that wolverine was smiling: not a good indication that wolverine considered himself to be in any immediate danger or in a state of helplessness...
The second being that Hulk nor Thing, nor She hulk nor rogue have been able to hold wolverine helpless while bashing away at him, If characters of their strength couldn't render wolverine helpless how could spiderman?
Originally posted by capt it upHaha, I haven't called you a liar nor a schemer, I simply made a statement that other's have seen. You say "I'll do this" but you'll come back on the thread and keep arguing without showing what you meant. I haven't told you not to bother, and if I did I'd like to see where. I've actually encouraged you to bother if anything.
spiderman vs wolverine thread hmmm there are some others.one thread I have not gotten back to was the whole kuwabara thread and that was just becuase newjack would go on for ever no matter what I brought to the table
who dening any thing? what did I deny? have I brought spiderman into a wolverien debate possiably I recall twice I did it.
I nevre denied the feat but the fact of the matter is the feat is being implied inccorectly unless thsoe bad guys are all idiots who run in straight lines to gather
go a head I don't care. picked on? You mean by some retards who don't know any thing about comics I could careless what they say or think. Most of them ressort to personal attacks as soon as they can not suport there claims. You wanna pick on me go right a head hell I dear you to you think I care? Not at all. unless you missed it I simply dislike being called a liar and some schemer. again you think so less of my it rather pethatic. GO a Head Bash Me. I honestly don't care what so ever your best bashing would not even come close to the bashing I have seen.
I'm sure I've outbashed the likes of what you've seen on this forum, trust me.