Originally posted by HerculesJudging by the MU standards though there is an argument to be made for peak human, only because in general people in the MU seem to be quite a bit stronger than people in the real world.
Yeah but dont forget that Marvel has stated that superhuman strength starts at 900lbs. So even by marvel standards Cap is superhuman. There is also another feat were Cap has lifted Big Bertha who weighs 750lbs and thrown her.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well if you cant understand the concept that cap:1. lifted 1100lbs with ease.
2. was doing reps with it
3. wasn't even breathing hard
4. Did acrobatics straight afterwards.
Then I cant help you.
I could have sworn earlier on you said you believed that Cap could lift a ton, but I cant be bothered to find the quote. Anyway I thought 1500 wa superhuman?
Alf, I understand your "concept" just fine. Clearly I just don't agree with it.
You know, I did in fact say earlier that I think Cap can lift 1 ton under the most extreme conditions. And I'll stick by it. But I mean like in a life-or-death situation, with adrenaline pumping hard and all that.
I would give him 1,000-1,500 lbs under most normal circumstances, however.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Well what exactly is it they say?I'm not trying to argue with you I'm just trying to make it so you understand what almost everyone on KMC is talking about when they say he's not superhuman. Don't you think his Skeleton is kindof what makes his strength more enhanced?
also one of logans best lifting feats was bone claws wolverine.
Originally posted by capt it up
ya and it was changed your point? The not comic pannel evidence. That some crap in the back of the book lol.I asked on pannel evidence that far from on pannel. That not even part of the comic.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Alf, I understand your "concept" just fine. Clearly I just don't agree with it.You know, I did in fact say earlier that I think Cap can lift 1 ton under the most extreme conditions. And I'll stick by it. But I mean like in a life-or-death situation, with adrenaline pumping hard and all that.
I would give him 1,000-1,500 lbs under most normal circumstances, however.
Well his limit is defintely not 1000lbs, I still think it would be above 1500. You do realise he needs to do only one rep right? If he can do 1100 that easily I would still put him slightly above 1500lbs.
Well ok you have done weights before if you could do 10 reps with a certain weight so easily that you didnt breath hard and could do something strenous afterwards easily would 400 more lbs be your limit?
Originally posted by Disappear
during which time was this "1100 lb" panel shown? captain america's powers haven't been consistent throughout the years, and there was a stretch of time in which he had superhuman strength. actually, there were at least two, but one was from an exoskeleton designed by tony stark.
Im not to sure to be quite honest the first time I saw D man in that outfit was 1987 I think. So it might be the late 80s but dont quote me on that.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Alf, I understand your "concept" just fine. Clearly I just don't agree with it.You know, I did in fact say earlier that I think Cap can lift 1 ton under the most extreme conditions. And I'll stick by it. But I mean like in a life-or-death situation, with adrenaline pumping hard and all that.
I would give him 1,000-1,500 lbs under most normal circumstances, however.
Yeah your right if Cap was doing reps with 1100lbs then his 1 rep maximum would be approx 1500lbs. That however is still superhuman.
http://www.musclenet.com/1repmaxcalculator.htm
I worked it out with the link above, Hercules gave me the link.
Originally posted by capt it up
Logan roughly a 2 tonnerWolverine punching a guy who says he his brother in water so hard he slams into the wall and his head goes through it.
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strength21yp.jpgthis feat would require at least 2 tons of strength. Though to tell you the truth it would most deffinetly require more.
back on topic has wolverine ever been stated as peak-human?
It's impossible to do that to a wall with someone's head. Concrete is tougher than your skull, so your skull would just smash. You could crack the concrete, possibly put a dent in it, but no, your head would never go into concrete. Take a coconut for example, a coconut take more PSI to shatter than the human skull, I can take a coconut outside, and hurl it into the ground and the thing will break. I could take your skull (Sans the flesh), bring that ***** outside and shatter it on the ground. I'm nowhere near 'peak-human', so this is a pretty good measure of how much BS that feat is. Much like 90% of comic feats, it's just for effect, you'll say "It's a comic, it's not real!" then don't try to use realistic comparisons to prove why said character is X strong. Wolverine is going to obviously be stronger than a peak human just because his ****ing skeleton weighs so much, it's like running with weights on, coupled with an accelerated healing factor, that would easily make it possible for him to exceed normal human capabilities. The term superhuman, however makes you think of throwing around cars like toys. I'd say he's enhanced human, with the capability to press slightly more than Captain America.
By the way, I hate Wolverine, and personally think most of his feats are nerdgasm fueled bullshit by fanboy writers, but I am just going to call this one as I see it.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
It's impossible to do that to a wall with someone's head. Concrete is tougher than your skull, so your skull would just smash. You could crack the concrete, possibly put a dent in it, but no, your head would never go into concrete. Take a coconut for example, a coconut take more PSI to shatter than the human skull, I can take a coconut outside, and hurl it into the ground and the thing will break. I could take your skull (Sans the flesh), bring that ***** outside and shatter it on the ground. I'm nowhere near 'peak-human', so this is a pretty good measure of how much BS that feat is. Much like 90% of comic feats, it's just for effect, you'll say "It's a comic, it's not real!" then don't try to use realistic comparisons to prove why said character is X strong. Wolverine is going to obviously be stronger than a peak human just because his ****ing skeleton weighs so much, it's like running with weights on, coupled with an accelerated healing factor, that would easily make it possible for him to exceed normal human capabilities. The term superhuman, however makes you think of throwing around cars like toys. I'd say he's enhanced human, with the capability to press slightly more than Captain America.By the way, I hate Wolverine, and personally think most of his feats are nerdgasm fueled bullshit by fanboy writers, but I am just going to call this one as I see it.
I'm glad someone said it.
Originally posted by capt it up
arnt you the same kid who tried to tell me that capt would defeat wolverine effortlessly?Please your opinion means nothing to me and is based off pure bias.
So because you don't like what he said, it makes it false? 😕
Originally posted by capt it up
arnt you the same kid who tried to tell me that capt would defeat wolverine effortlessly?Please your opinion means nothing to me and is based off pure bias.
Kid? I'm no kid, you idiot. No kid would willingly put his life on the line so ignorant idiots like you could live in their own little fantasy worlds. Have some ****ing respect for the people who fight so you can have your own deluded views of reality.
Secondly, I never said Captain America would defeat Wolverine effortlessly, but he would most likely beat Wolverine.
Third, you're saying *I* am basing my opinion off bias? Hello Mr. Pot! I'm also black!
