Wolverine..........peak-human?

Originally posted by Nataku8188
It's impossible to do that to a wall with someone's head. Concrete is tougher than your skull, so your skull would just smash. You could crack the concrete, possibly put a dent in it, but no, your head would never go into concrete.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Wolverine is going to obviously be stronger than a peak human just because his ****ing skeleton weighs so much, it's like running with weights on, coupled with an accelerated healing factor, that would easily make it possible for him to exceed normal human capabilities. The term superhuman, however makes you think of throwing around cars like toys. I'd say he's enhanced human, with the capability to press slightly more than Captain America.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
By the way, I hate Wolverine, and personally think most of his feats are nerdgasm fueled bullshit by fanboy writers, but I am just going to call this one as I see it.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Kid? I'm no kid, you idiot. No kid would willingly put his life on the line so ignorant idiots like you could live in their own little fantasy worlds. Have some ****ing respect for the people who fight so you can have your own deluded views of reality.

Secondly, I never said Captain America would defeat Wolverine effortlessly, but he would most likely beat Wolverine.

Third, you're saying *I* am basing my opinion off bias? Hello Mr. Pot! I'm also black!

thats a direct quote from you. Little effort and effortlessly are pritty dam close to the same thing.

so now I am an idiot and a deluded fan boy, becuase I find you to never bring any thing usefully or un bias to the table?

metalmax by the way no I did not ignore his arguement, becuase I did not agree with it I ignored it, becuase he normally has the dumbest things to say time and time again.

so ya how strong do you have to be to through 130 pounds 50 feet into the air?

I'm still not buying Wolverine as a 2 tonner.

Originally posted by capt it up
Unless your skull was far denser then concrete such as how about adamatium which by the way the guys body was laced with if I am not mistaken.

Originally posted by capt it up
Unless your skull was far denser then concrete such as how about adamatium which by the way the guys body was laced with if I am not mistaken.

Wait, wait. Aren't we talking about the guy that Wolverine punched into the concrete? He DID not have an adamantium skeleton. Concrete is harder than a human's skull. Hell, concrete would still be harder than even Wolverine's bone skull. So it's pretty much irrelevent.

Originally posted by capt it up
metalmax by the way no I did not ignore his arguement, becuase I did not agree with it I ignored it, becuase he normally has the dumbest things to say time and time again.

Uh...that's no excuse for ignoring it the way you did though. If we all applied those same rules, there would be an exponentially smaller number of posts actually being read.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hell, concrete would still be harder than even Wolverine's bone skull. So it's pretty much irrelevent.

Not true. Captain America's skull has been put through concrete on SEVERAL occasions, and bone claws Wolverine is probably about as durable as Steve.

Originally posted by capt it up
Unless your skull was far denser then concrete such as how about adamatium which by the way the guys body was laced with if I am not mistaken.

The amount of force it would take, even IF your body was laced with adamantium, is beyond anything even remotely feasable for anyone even near 'peak human' strength. You know how hard it is to put a ****ing rockbreaker (A 20lb piece of metal that ends in a point) through concrete? You have to sit there for at LEAST an hour picking away at the shit to even get a respectable amount of concrete out of the way. NEVERMIND the fact that this guy has FLESH, which will seriously dampen the impact, over his ROUND skull. There is no way Wolverine could do what the comic shows, hell, I don't think anyone below 2-3 ton could do it. If it was out of the water, I could see Wolverine using an adamantium skull to make an impact crater on a concrete surface. That wouldn't be a big shock, but UNDERWATER? No. Not going to happen.

his skeleton really has nothing to do with it at all. He done feats with as well as with out his adamatium skeleton. His normal skeleton is a lot tougher then even that of a peak humans.

Though so of his most impressive strength feats was prior to being popular.

Like regenerating from a skeleton? Wolverine has been popular from square one, it's only gotten worse over time.

Originally posted by Nataku8188

Like regenerating from a skeleton? Wolverine has been popular from square one, it's only gotten worse over time.

🙄 Tell me about it....

The "skull through concrete isn't really a very good argument for strength though. Putting aside the fact that it takes into account durabilty more than anything, most street levelers have gone through it at some point. Everyone from Batman, to Punisher, to Cap, to Wolverine has had that time where they've meet up against someone who's much stronger than them and is flinging them through walls.

Lets face it, in comics, concrete walls job too.

Originally posted by capt it up
His normal skeleton is a lot tougher then even that of a peak humans.

that's physically impossible, you realize. wolverine's healing factor is regulated to simulating normal human healing at a highly advanced rate and allowing him to survive otherwise fatal injuries. he heals like a regular person, but "better." so, even assuming that his healing factor would consistently correct flaws or weaknesses in his skeletal structure, he couldn't heal beyond human perfection. and a peak human, being the perfect physical specimen, would also be at the level of human perfection in the very same sense. the only things different about his skeleton are that his claws [an obvious non-human trait] are abnormally dense, and his skeleton heals incredibly quickly. as long as cap's taking his vitamins, his skeleton'll be in perfect physical condition, too.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
The skeleton has to do plenty with his strength. If you've ever trained with ankle/wrist weights you'd know that having that extra weight everyday really increases your strength. Once you can move like normal with that extra weight, you're much stronger than someone without them. He still has them in him at all times, so his muscles have developed to put him at a level above what any human could attain unless they wore the same amount of weight difference as the adamantium provides. Goddamn kid, you're dense as shit.

People shouldn't wear wrist/ankle weights 24/7. Your body doesn't have time to adjust to the weight and you'll damage your own tendons & joints.It puts awful lot of strain on your joints. It's not suggested to wear them daily either. So kids, don't wear ankle/wrist weights if you're not working out.

But wolverine shouldn't have this problem as his whole skeleton is/was coated by it and he has a healing factor so it wouldn't really matter.

Btw, IMo it's kinda stupid to see Wolverine doing sit up exercises. I mean, the guy has super human endurance, what are endurance exercises going to do? Nothing at all. Maybe Wolverine isn't that smart after all 😄

Originally posted by capt it up
"Cap is far more skilled and intelligent than Wolverine. He can KO him with little effort."

thats a direct quote from you. Little effort and effortlessly are pritty dam close to the same thing.

But they aren't the same thing. Little effort, that's like 20% effort. Most likely to win, thats like 80% odds. Seems about right

so now I am an idiot and a deluded fan boy, becuase I find you to never bring any thing usefully or un bias to the table?

If I labeled a bottle of anti-freeze 'Irony', you'd be dead by now.

metalmax by the way no I did not ignore his arguement, becuase I did not agree with it I ignored it, becuase he normally has the dumbest things to say time and time again.

I actually laughed. Read my last comment.

This one's for you.

Originally posted by capt it up
so now I am an idiot and a deluded fan boy, becuase I find you to never bring any thing usefully or un bias to the table?

You should really stop swinging this "bias" accusation cudgel around, because it works both way you know.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Who the crap is Johnny No-Pants on the left? He looks a little too smug, like he knows he ruined a picture.

Originally posted by capt it up
Unless your skull was far denser then concrete such as how about adamatium which by the way the guys body was laced with if I am not mistaken.

his skeleton really has nothing to do with it at all. He done feats with as well as with out his adamatium skeleton. His normal skeleton is a lot tougher then even that of a peak humans.

Though so of his most impressive strength feats was prior to being popular.

that's in black and white for all to see, not just my opinion. 💃

there are plenty of 300+ pound people out there. that doesn't mean they're lifting tons of weight. and a healing factor wouldn't increase his overall ability to lift by any great amount, it would allow him to lift the same amount of weight over a longer period. that's like saying if you recovered immediately [after tiring your muscles to exhaustion] doing a one-rep max, you'd be able to lift more. you wouldn't, you'd simply be able to lift again.

unless he's undergoing massive protein synthesis after every spec of physical exertion, which he's clearly not considering he hasn't become bloated with muscle after decades of high-intensity physical activity, a healing factor won't make him considerably stronger.

But, when Wolverine goes into blind berserk mode, his stats raise. Once, while being studied by instruments, the machines said his strength, speed and what-not raised nearly 10x what they were before when he went berserk. I don't know if anyone has talked about this or not, but there it is.

So, yes, he's peak human until he goes berserker, then he's a good bit above peak human but loses his intelligence.