Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exept we know that the omniverse always existed.
Actually what we know as FACT,
is that Marvel continuity consited of ONE Multiverse, and nothing more.
In Nov. 1986 the first Universe Outside the Multiverse was established.
In 1992 the Omniverse was established in Continuity.
Beyonder was Everything Outside the Multiverse,
between May 1984 and Nov. 1986.
Beyonder was officially retconned 1988, but it was a done deal by Nov. 86'.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
there is no real way to know if the beyonder was as huge as the marvel omniverse.
As you wish.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO it does matter. Current LT has held mega verses in his hand and is over the OMNIVERSE. yes it matters. Current LT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Classic LT.
Again.
Everything that is Outside the 616 Multiverse NOW,
Beyonder WAS.
Two Megaverses?
Try all the Megaverses in Marvel = Classic Beyonder.
Everything in Marvel NOW = Classic Beyonder minus the 616 Multiverse. 😄
Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M, is LT now more powerful than Beyonder
Beyonder now is nothing to what he once was.
So absolutely LT is more powerful.
But Beyonder and Pre-retcon Molecule Man are in an exclusive class all their own.
Their power was off the chart.
They simply possessed power on an exaggerated scale.
Here MM hits Beyonder with a blast that would have,
MELTED several Billion Universes:
This is madness.
Originally posted by Mr MasterHey Mr M, I noticed that "Fantastic Four #341", (Last issue of the Black Celestial arch), was published in June of 1990:
Actually what we know as FACT,In 1992 the Omniverse was established in Continuity.
And in that same comic, on page #14, a reference to the Omniverse was made:
So really, an Omniverse was established in 1990 as opposed to 1992.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Again.Everything that is Outside the 616 Multiverse NOW,
Beyonder WAS.
Two Megaverses?
Try all the Megaverses in Marvel = Classic Beyonder.
Everything in Marvel NOW = Classic Beyonder minus the 616 Multiverse. 😄
It doesn't matter. The LT can do every single thing that classci beyonder could do. and more importantly, The LT is OVER every thing that you claim the beyonder WAS. Get it. LT SITS OVER as in HIGHER Than everything you say the beyonder was. GAME set and match. Current LT is OVER and beyonder more powerful than even classic beyonder.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Beyonder now is nothing to what he once was.So absolutely LT is more powerful.
But Beyonder and Pre-retcon Molecule Man are in an exclusive class all their own.
Their power was off the chart.
They simply possessed power on an exaggerated scale.
Here MM hits Beyonder with a blast that would have,
MELTED several Billion Universes:
This is madness.
Well it says dimensions. so who's to say how big. Odin's wrealm is a dimension and so is mephisto's. I would call them universes.
Originally posted by Galan007
Hey Mr M, I noticed that "Fantastic Four #341", (Last issue of the Black Celestial arch), was published in June of [b]1990:And in that same comic, on page #14, a reference to the Omniverse was made:
So really, an Omniverse was established in 1990 as opposed to 1992. [/B]
I have that issue.
It was mentioned but not established as continuity
Remember in Quasar #31 1992,
the Watcher still was unsure of the existence of an Omniverse.
Within that issue, for the first time, the Mainstream Multiverse crossed over to the New Universe, verifying the existence of an Omniverse.
Up until then it was more myth than reality.
Originally posted by Mr MasterI see.
I have that issue.It was mentioned but not established as continuity
Remember in Quasar #31 1992,
the Watcher still was unsure of the existence of an Omniverse.
Within that issue, for the first time, the Mainstream Multiverse crossed over to the New Universe, verufying the existence of an Omniverse.
Up until then it was more myth than reality.
You were talking about actual verification of the Omniverse, as opposed to references about it...
Gotcha! 👆
Originally posted by Mr Master
Beyonder now is nothing to what he once was.So absolutely LT is more powerful.
But Beyonder and Pre-retcon Molecule Man are in an exclusive class all their own.
Their power was off the chart.
They simply possessed power on an exaggerated scale.
Here MM hits Beyonder with a blast that would have,
MELTED several Billion Universes:
This is madness.
Mr. M, can Living Tribunal destroy the Beyonder
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well it says dimensions. so who's to say how big. Odin's wrealm is a dimension and so is mephisto's. I would call them universes.
Odin's realm is a Pocket Dimension or Pocket Universe.
Beyonder say's "WHOLE Dimensions"
"Odd thing He had noticed about our Universe"
"Namely that it is Many-Layered-composed of a seemingly Endless Number of Dimensions,
indeed, it is a MULTIVERSE"
Dimensions are Universes. 🙂
"Pocket Dimensions" like Mephisto's or Odin's, another story. 🙁
Originally posted by Mr Master
I have that issue.It was mentioned but not established as continuity
Remember in Quasar #31 1992,
the Watcher still was unsure of the existence of an Omniverse.
Within that issue, for the first time, the Mainstream Multiverse crossed over to the New Universe, verufying the existence of an Omniverse.
Up until then it was more myth than reality.
The point is that i'm most likely right. It always existed and no one knew about it for sure. you act as if the omniverse was created the day they found it. NOT!!
